|
Your continuous donations keep RPGWatch running!
RPGWatch Forums » Games » Divinity Games » Divinity Original Sin » Divinity III Revealed ?

Default Divinity III Revealed ?

May 15th, 2012, 08:35
A little newsbit from gamebanshee. By now most of us knew there would be a Divinity 3. There was even talk from Larian Studios about them working on three different projects.
Admittedly, I don't know if the game will necessarily be called Divinity III, but earlier this evening I received an invite from Larian Studios to see "the next entry in the beloved Divinity role-playing series" at E3 next month. The teaser was accompanied by a single piece of concept art labeled "OS_TeaserB", which I suppose could be a clue to the exact title that will be announced next month. Regardless, I don't think anyone around here is going to complain about another Divinity RPG.
There is also more Dragon Commander screens also.

Link-http://www.gamebanshee.com/news/1081…ncept-art.html

"Frankly Sir /Madam I don't give a damn about your opinion."- Couchpotato
Couchpotato is offline

Couchpotato

Couchpotato's Avatar
LazyGamer
RPGWatch Team

#1

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Potato Land
Posts: 8,984

Default 

May 15th, 2012, 13:03
Bring it on.

Exitus acta probat.
wiretripped is online now

wiretripped

wiretripped's Avatar
Machiavellian

#2

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Leuven, BE
Posts: 625

Default 

May 15th, 2012, 16:24
Div3 will be nice. I'm not really the right market for the other game. The dragon parts of Div2 were dull, so I hope that all of that stuff moves to Dragon Commander and they go back to straight crpg for Div3.

'nut
crpgnut is offline

crpgnut

crpgnut's Avatar
Fantasy Novel Archmage
RPGWatch Donor

#3

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: St. Louis, Mo USA
Posts: 3,606

Default 

May 15th, 2012, 17:30
One piece of concept art? That's what you got me all excited about?


Originally Posted by crpgnut View Post
The dragon parts of Div2 were dull, so I hope that all of that stuff moves to Dragon Commander and they go back to straight crpg for Div3.
I didn't mind the dragon sections as much as some people, but I agree they were mostly unnecessary. Hopefully Div3 will be more like Flames of Vengeance than Div2.
JDR13 is online now

JDR13

JDR13's Avatar
SasqWatch

#4

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Florida, US
Posts: 17,656

Default 

May 15th, 2012, 21:34
Originally Posted by JDR13 View Post
One piece of concept art? That's what you got me all excited about?
I'm a tease can't help it. More info about the game will be shown at E3 in june.

"Frankly Sir /Madam I don't give a damn about your opinion."- Couchpotato
Last edited by Couchpotato; May 16th, 2012 at 01:03.
Couchpotato is offline

Couchpotato

Couchpotato's Avatar
LazyGamer
RPGWatch Team

#5

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Potato Land
Posts: 8,984

Default 

May 16th, 2012, 00:06
The dragon sections would have been much improved if you could target ground enemies instead of just flying ones and artillery. As it is, you don't feel any more powerful than you did before, since all you're doing is fighting a different type of enemy, and you can't even see ground units when you're flying.

I too hope it'll be like Flames of Vengeance, the more they move away from Diablo-esque combat-heavy quests the better. If the rest of Divinity II had been along those lines it would have been a fantastic game.
DPB is offline

DPB

DPB's Avatar
Watchdog

#6

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: England
Posts: 196

Default 

May 16th, 2012, 00:28
I had expected to love the dragon aspect but did not enjoy the flying combat that was somewhat forced on you when you left the valley. Between that and getting stuck on where to go ( I could never seem to find the next step) I stopped playing and never finished it. Its been deleted but I have it on steam in case I get really bored … or if it looks like DIV3 would make it worth while to finish. I loved the first half though.

To many games … have to make some hard choices. Right now I still need to finish Skyrim, just got Diablo 3, and TSW and GW2 is right around the corner and I am still playing RIFT with friends. Not to mention Grimlock needs to be finished as well.

Character is centrality, the impossibility of being displaced or overset. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
wolfgrimdark is offline

wolfgrimdark

wolfgrimdark's Avatar
Keeper of the Watch

#7

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: NH
Posts: 860

Default 

May 16th, 2012, 01:37
Originally Posted by wolfgrimdark View Post
To[o] many games have to make some hard choices.
There's an easy fix for "hard choices": Just buy every game you want to play and build up a huge backlog. I think that's how most of us are doing it .

On topic: Definitely looking forward to the Div 3 announcement here. I hope it's more classic style pure fantasy Divinity (like DKS) and not the Steampunky Dragon Commander kind of stuff that just isn't my personal cup of tea to be honest.
From the concept art it looks like we'll be soul-bound in Divinity 3, doesn't it? This could be fun. Larian are smart people. I have faith in them not repeating the mistakes from Beyond Divinity (where the companion was a pest).
Moriendor is offline

Moriendor

Moriendor's Avatar
Spielkind

#8

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Schland
Posts: 1,881

Default 

May 16th, 2012, 03:19
Please tell me I'm not going to be soul-bound to a chicken!
Zloth is offline

Zloth

Zloth's Avatar
I smell a… wumpus!?

#9

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 2,688

Default 

May 16th, 2012, 03:29
Originally Posted by Moriendor View Post
There's an easy fix for "hard choices": Just buy every game you want to play and build up a huge backlog. I think that's how most of us are doing it .
There you go, and pre-order and believe every but of pre-release hype. Pretty soon you'll have no room to tie your shoelaces….
Thrasher is offline

Thrasher

Thrasher's Avatar
Wheeee!
RPGWatch Donor

#10

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Studio City, CA
Posts: 9,938

Default 

May 16th, 2012, 17:19
Originally Posted by DPB View Post
The dragon sections would have been much improved if you could target ground enemies instead of just flying ones and artillery. As it is, you don't feel any more powerful than you did before, since all you're doing is fighting a different type of enemy, and you can't even see ground units when you're flying.
Personally, I'm fine with that decision, because Divinity just isn't a game of becoming powerful. It has story, like any "normal" RPG, too.
Plus, this way it teaches people to be flexible.

Me, I'm becoming more and more tired of this game play concept of games always centering around the question : "How do I become more powerful ? Eye Of The Beholder for example just didn't have it. Mere survival was enough challenge in itself.

I think Blizzard introduced this "powergaming" scheme at large scale. And, since then, games have more and more centered around it, like magpies circling a glittering gem. The result, as I see it, personally, is that this kind of game play scheme/concept has become kind of an "industry standard" for newer role-playing games.

The "playing of a role" has been replaced by "becoming stronger and bigger". And by "I fight, therefore I play a role".

Yoda said : "Wars not make one great."
In the "Action-RPG Age" this has been replaced by : "Social interactions not make one great". The point of view has been reversed.

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. (E.F.Schumacher, Economist, Source)
Alrik Fassbauer is offline

Alrik Fassbauer

Alrik Fassbauer's Avatar
TL;DR

#11

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Old Europe
Posts: 15,931

Default 

May 16th, 2012, 17:45
Originally Posted by Alrik Fassbauer View Post
Me, I'm becoming more and more tired of this game play concept of games always centering around the question : "How do I become more powerful ? Eye Of The Beholder for example just didn't have it. Mere survival was enough challenge in itself.

I think Blizzard introduced this "powergaming" scheme at large scale. And, since then, games have more and more centered around it, like magpies circling a glittering gem. The result, as I see it, personally, is that this kind of game play scheme/concept has become kind of an "industry standard" for newer role-playing games.

The "playing of a role" has been replaced by "becoming stronger and bigger". And by "I fight, therefore I play a role".
Totally agree with you. However, it is also a matter of progression: you need your character to become stronger to progress and achieve the goals/finish the game. So game designers base the design of the world, quests, monster placement and stats according to this to provide gradual progression towards the end, and to limit the hard work on choices and consequences in games. This not only applies to crpgs but to all games.

I can only think of one game where your character can be content to being e.g. a trader to make bare living (survive) and that is in mount and blade, but you still need to get stronger to fend of bandits and improve your trade. I guess its human nature (partly greed!).

Also where is the fun and challenge in livining in a peaceful game world where your only task is to water the garden and feed the birds!
SpoonFULL is offline

SpoonFULL

SpoonFULL's Avatar
Keeper of the Watch

#12

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1,312

Default 

May 16th, 2012, 17:49
larni plz…
not another action rpg…

i dont like bioware games
turian is offline

turian

turian's Avatar
Sentinel

#13

Join Date: May 2009
Location: Germany
Posts: 278

Default 

May 16th, 2012, 17:51
Interesting point by Alrik, about progression. I really enjoy character progression but it doesn't have to always be in terms of pure power - it could also be in the form of options (different abilities versus more powerful ones), different outfits (versus more powerful gear), better standing with locals (factions), more quests, more chances to RP, etc. But I do like some power increase, mixed in with others, as a sign of growth - but wouldn't have to be the main focus in every game.

As for hard choices I have this weird quirk that to many choices can overwhelm me. If I look and see 4 games on my PC I can usually settle in and focus on one (usually one MMO and one SRPG). But when I had 14 of them I was just lost. I couldn't decide on one, felt I had to many to ever finish, and floundered between them all. So I removed 10 of them which solved the problem.

One plus to steam is knowing I can still install them but the time it takes removes it as a casual option, leaving me to focus on the core games.

Back on topic - I did enjoy the divinity games just lost motivation with the dragon combat. If I can get past that then it would be fine. But need motivation to bump it up on play list or a real dry spell in games. DIV3 might provide some extra motiviation if it looks real good.

Overall I thought the series was well done and cool minus my own personal issue with the flying combat.

Character is centrality, the impossibility of being displaced or overset. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Last edited by wolfgrimdark; May 16th, 2012 at 17:53. Reason: clarified, typo
wolfgrimdark is offline

wolfgrimdark

wolfgrimdark's Avatar
Keeper of the Watch

#14

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: NH
Posts: 860

Default 

May 16th, 2012, 18:25
Alrik - folks like a sense of achievement that's captured as new things doable with their characters. But I know some people are content to putter around in a sandbox without character growth…
Thrasher is offline

Thrasher

Thrasher's Avatar
Wheeee!
RPGWatch Donor

#15

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Studio City, CA
Posts: 9,938

Default 

May 16th, 2012, 18:27
Originally Posted by Alrik Fassbauer View Post
Me, I'm becoming more and more tired of this game play concept of games always centering around the question : "How do I become more powerful ? Eye Of The Beholder for example just didn't have it. Mere survival was enough challenge in itself.

I think Blizzard introduced this "powergaming" scheme at large scale. And, since then, games have more and more centered around it, like magpies circling a glittering gem. The result, as I see it, personally, is that this kind of game play scheme/concept has become kind of an "industry standard" for newer role-playing games.

The "playing of a role" has been replaced by "becoming stronger and bigger". And by "I fight, therefore I play a role".
Could you please give some examples of some RPGs of the last years where powergaming is its core gameplay element?

Frankly speaking, I don't have the feeling that current RPGs are about powergaming. You mention Blizzard so perhaps you are referring to Hack 'n Slashers, which is a genre that I avoid at all cost.
Asdraguuhl is offline

Asdraguuhl

Asdraguuhl's Avatar
Sentinel

#16

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Madrid, Spain
Posts: 392

Default 

May 16th, 2012, 22:11
Originally Posted by SpoonFULL View Post
Totally agree with you. However, it is also a matter of progression: you need your character to become stronger to progress and achieve the goals/finish the game. So game designers base the design of the world, quests, monster placement and stats according to this to provide gradual progression towards the end, and to limit the hard work on choices and consequences in games. This not only applies to crpgs but to all games.
Yes, but of course ! This is necessary. It gives the player an actual feeling of achievement.

But what I rather don't like is when a game is "built around the character", and not vice versa.

Personally, I want to have the feeling of being a "visitor" within a living and breathing world.

Originally Posted by Asdraguuhl View Post
Could you please give some examples of some RPGs of the last years where powergaming is its core gameplay element?

Frankly speaking, I don't have the feeling that current RPGs are about powergaming. You mention Blizzard so perhaps you are referring to Hack 'n Slashers, which is a genre that I avoid at all cost.
Yes, I mean Action-RPGs. And thw worst thing is for me that you won't see any press release in current times without having the word "action" in it - which imho is a good sign of the powerfulness of the sub-genre.

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. (E.F.Schumacher, Economist, Source)
Alrik Fassbauer is offline

Alrik Fassbauer

Alrik Fassbauer's Avatar
TL;DR

#17

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Old Europe
Posts: 15,931

Default 

May 16th, 2012, 22:21
Originally Posted by Alrik Fassbauer View Post
Yes, but of course ! This is necessary. It gives the player an actual feeling of achievement.

But what I rather don't like is when a game is "built around the character", and not vice versa.

Personally, I want to have the feeling of being a "visitor" within a living and breathing world.
Then have you tried Mount and Blade: Warband, in this game you are indeed a visitor and the world don't care about you as kings rise and fall, prices of goods rise and fall, maidens and princes get kidnapped, villages get pillaged, kings are backstabbed … etc. and start on your own and have the option of staying this way or be a trader, an army leader, a bandit, a prince, a husband or a king. It also has the best melee and army combat system that I have seen in recent years. This is a unique game that is totally overlooked and not centred around you as player.
SpoonFULL is offline

SpoonFULL

SpoonFULL's Avatar
Keeper of the Watch

#18

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1,312

Default 

May 17th, 2012, 12:48
Originally Posted by Alrik Fassbauer View Post
Personally, I want to have the feeling of
being a "visitor" within a living and breathing world.
Play Fallout: New Vegas

Originally Posted by Alrik Fassbauer View Post
Yes, I mean Action-RPGs. And thw worst thing is for me that you won't see any press release in current times without having the word "action" in it - which imho is a good sign of the powerfulness of the sub-genre.
I find it strange to see how the term Hack 'n Slasher is sometimes interchanged with ARPGs. I tend to associate ARPGs with RPGs that incorporates gameplay mechanics that have their roots in action games (such as e.g. TPS/FPS) but by definition they do not necessarily have to sacrifice the depth of non-combat RPG elements.

Hack 'n Slashers are a different breed altogether and are not representative of the RPG development as a whole.
Asdraguuhl is offline

Asdraguuhl

Asdraguuhl's Avatar
Sentinel

#19

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Madrid, Spain
Posts: 392

Default 

May 17th, 2012, 14:00
For me, hack & slay = Action-RPGs.

Because there just don't exist any other Action-RPGs which contain anything else than just hack & slay.

"Social interaction Action-RPG" ? No, impossible.

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. (E.F.Schumacher, Economist, Source)
Alrik Fassbauer is offline

Alrik Fassbauer

Alrik Fassbauer's Avatar
TL;DR

#20

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Old Europe
Posts: 15,931
RPGWatch Forums » Games » Divinity Games » Divinity Original Sin » Divinity III Revealed ?
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT +2. The time now is 12:24.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright by RPGWatch