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September 25th, 2013, 03:26
DSO Gaming has news that Piranha Bytes is working on a new RPG title. I hope it's Risen 3, or a new RPG set in a new setting.

Piranha Bytes’ Michael Ruve has confirmed that the company is currently working on a new RPG title. Although we don’t know much about this new RPG project, we do know that Piranha Bytes has implemented a better navigation technique for NPCs, and that cloth animation and a cool looking physically based lighting solution have been implemented.

Given the fact that Piranha Bytes has not shared any additional information about its new RPG, we can safely assume that it will be coming on next-gen platforms (consoles and PC).
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September 25th, 2013, 03:26
Whatever it is they do lets hope its better then the thoroughly disappointing and poor Risen 2.
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September 25th, 2013, 09:15
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Whatever it is they do lets hope its better then the thoroughly disappointing and poor Risen 2.
Speak for yourself, there was nothing poor about Risen 2. Even if it wasn't their best work, it was still an excellent experience for the most part.

It's always good to hear that PB is working on another game.
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First time I hear about a new PB RPG and the best I can muster is a lukewarm : "Oh… that's nice".

I expect them to continue on the Risen 2 formula which translates to an entertaining but not all that exciting game for me. And yeah, in the context of their previous record (and how much I adore their games, even the seriously flawed G3 CPed and all), ultimately a let down.

Still interested to hear what they are up to naturally, but no day 1 purchase for me this time if its another Risen 2 on the works…

P.S: Hmm, I am equally unable to get hyped about the Witcher 3 also… Maybe I am just getting old
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September 25th, 2013, 09:36
I'm with JDR13. Risen 2 wasn't perfect and it wasn't PB's best game, but there was still an awful lot of fun to be had.

I'm quite excited by this news!
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September 25th, 2013, 09:51
I hope it's Gothic 4.Please let it be Gothic 4.
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September 25th, 2013, 10:04
you mean Gothic 5, I hope ?
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September 25th, 2013, 10:59
Originally Posted by GothicGothicness View Post
you mean Gothic 5, I hope ?
PB said they will ignore events in Arcania so next game will be official Gothic 4.
Also in case of games like M&M 9 and Disciples 3 and of course Arcania it's better to deny some sequels ever happened.
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September 25th, 2013, 11:28
Maybe Nameless One was implicitly making the argument that perhaps it's best we forget the abomination that was Arcania and simply move on to PB style Gothic 4?
I'm sure it's a sentiment many of the purists would empathise with.

How about some outlandish theories on the identification of the next game?
Risen 3 or a new Gothic title are the obvious choices.

Here's a wacky idea though:
One trademark to rule them all and in Khorinis bind them?

In any case, it's good to at least have some semblance of news from PB; even if it is more just murmurs of a sort.

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September 25th, 2013, 11:36
Seems Michael Ruve knows more than he is saying, but that dreaded NDA stops him from saying more. Hopefully by next year we will know.

By the way I actually liked Arcania. The problem is it's just a bland average RPG. Just tell yourself it's not a Gothic game , and you will be fine.

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September 25th, 2013, 11:42
Its not so much the setting though is it?

More like the gameplay mechanics and World Design/exploration approach that went wrong with R2 imho…

Its the "loose playful sand boxy approach" as Sascha put it that they lost recently…
The setting of Risen 2 was fine although under-utilized (Again as Sascha H. pointed out).

A Gothic 4 with Risen 2's approach/mechanics/exploration/World Design would be equally, just mildly interesting to me. Not Arcania sort of bad (only played the demo there though) of course; I mean I did enjoy Risen 2 and may even replay it some time in the future. Just not something that I will particularly look forward or rush out to buy…
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September 25th, 2013, 12:46
Arcania's OK. Comparable to G3. But we're all hoping for a return to G1/G2 form, I'm sure!
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September 25th, 2013, 12:59
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Arcania's OK. Comparable to G3.
I assume that this is just a typing error - yes!

As for PB new game, I am not optimistic that they have the budget to create a rpg of the same level as G1/2/3.
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September 25th, 2013, 13:04
Not a typing error, simply opinion. I found G3 quite bland compared to the first two games. Arcania was a step down again, agreed, but not of the same magnitude as G2 to G3.
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September 25th, 2013, 13:06
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As for PB new game, I am not optimistic that they have the budget to create a rpg of the same level as G1/2/3.
Its not a matter of budget I believe. Wasn't Risen 2 the game with the highest budget to date for PB (not sure about that) ?

To paste from the Sascha Henrichs interview linked above:

11. Would you like to go back to developing a new Gothic game?

Oh, ok, the following only represents my own opinion:

To be honest: not really. The one who develops a new Gothic, will get his fingers burned. He will be slashed by magazines and burned alive by die hard fans.

The expectations for this game would be so high, we couldn’t meet them.

The times have changed, the Gothic games lived up by a different mood, we were much more experimental back in the day. Something that was very exciting and the player could feel this loose and playful approach, but this also led to exorbitant developing times and many many bugs. We fixed this, but we also parted from this sand box developing approach.

What is this desperate need for a new Gothic game? What is expected? Well, a Gothic 1 extension is expected. Basically the same game, but more of it and in a fresh looking environment. Despite the fact, that our company is no more the same like back in the day and we would have a hard time, getting back that “feel”, chances are, we would be accused of plagiarism and lack of innovation.
Like “copy-pasting” our selves. These are accusations, we actually have to face very often; nearly after every new project. But in combination with a new Gothic, this would be terrible for the Gothic world.

When we do this, this one has to be nailed. It has to be fabulous in every aspect and there should be a huge and long planning phase. I believe it to be developed some day. But not know.
As you can see it seems more of a mentality shift in a more mature and business like approach that the company has taken the last few years. Nothing I read in those paragraphs makes me expect a return to the roots sort of thing, at least in the foreseeable future…

Otoh:
13. Seeing as a lot of years have passed since the release of Gothic 1, would you like to remake Gothic 1 or 2, with today’s graphics and technology?

Good question. I would do it, if anyone would give us budget for this.
Yes please!
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September 25th, 2013, 13:20
11. Would you like to go back to developing a new Gothic game?
To be honest: not really.
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but we also parted from this sand box developing approach
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September 25th, 2013, 13:25
It will be dark and gritty. I bet.

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September 25th, 2013, 13:29
Awsome news.
I adore ALL of their stuff. They simply know how to design a game with no mobrespawns that'll keep you playing it for hours and instead of taking a break you just want to explore it a bit more. But you already knew that.

I wish PB had the marketing machinery and invested hundreds of millions into it like Bethesda did. If that happened, the world wouldn't be flooded with grinders today.
Too bad we didn't learn is who's the publisher for the new game. But whatever that game is, and whoever the publisher is, and even if I have to turn on Steam, Origin, uPlay and WindowsLive at the same time to be able to play it, that game is an instabuy for me.

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September 25th, 2013, 13:35
Answer to point 13 worth the pinpoint, expectations are killers and players (most) are unable to go over it and judge impartially. I bet quite many license are buried because of that… or thanks to that, but it's first time I read such a direct comment on that.

EDIT: Not that I care much, for me Gothic 3 was a pathetic failure already.
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September 25th, 2013, 14:30
After playing Risen 1 I never bothered with any of their other stuff. Risen 1 was pretty bad imo.
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