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January 20th, 2014, 23:36
Personally I felt a stronger attachment to my Characters in XCom EU (though I don't like the game) than the ones in Banner Saga. A fantasy setting alone doesn't make it a RPG.
In case of Expeditions…well, I'd give it the benefit of the doubt and put it in
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January 20th, 2014, 23:41
Banner saga came out in 2014 so it doesn't belong on list anyway
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January 20th, 2014, 23:45
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CRPG the final (?) definition

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January 20th, 2014, 23:46
From what I understood there will also a poll about 2014 rpgs. Which was intended to be called anticipated…so no idea if you can anticipate a game which was already released
Would be unfair though to exclude all tha january games from the poll just because of their release date.
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January 20th, 2014, 23:49
You always have RPGs which come out while the contest is running. Happens every year.
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January 20th, 2014, 23:49
Everyone can post their games of 2013.

If your game of 2013 was Wizardry 7 -> vote for it, but don't expect such a game will win …

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January 20th, 2014, 23:56
Originally Posted by HiddenX View Post
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Cheers. But still, even with that, some points are up for discussion.

Must Have
S1: you can get info from information sources (=> e.g. hints, goals, quests, skills, spells, training, )
S2: you can follow quests (=> there is at least one main quest)
Expeditions passes that I'd say.
But for XCom and Banner Saga it's about interpretation.
And if XCom and Banner Saga don't meet this criteria, Stonekeep and Eye of the Beholder would probably neither.
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January 20th, 2014, 23:59
Originally Posted by Gorath View Post
You always have RPGs which come out while the contest is running. Happens every year.
Sure but does that mean I will be able to vote for them anyways?

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Everyone can post their games of 2013.

If your game of 2013 was Wizardry 7 -> vote for it, but don't expect such a game will win
Don't think it's intended like that. And I hope it isn't.
Other interpretation would be that you can only vote for games you made on your own
Would be rather boring poll
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January 21st, 2014, 00:03
Eye of the Beholder:

Main Quest from the Lords of Waterdeep:
(S2) Investigate the evil beneath the city
(S1) Information pieces hidden in the dungeon


Don't think it's intended like that. And I hope it isn't.
Other interpretation would be that you can only vote for games you made on your own
Would be rather boring poll
yep - an initial list would be good.

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January 21st, 2014, 00:11
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Eye of the Beholder:

Main Quest from the Lords of Waterdeep:
(S2) Investigate the evil beneath the city
(S1) Information pieces hidden in the dungeon
Yes, but that is very basic and available in all games except of minecraft maybe.
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January 21st, 2014, 09:21
This is what our database has for released games in 2013:
Aarklash: Legacy
Avadon 2: The Corruption
Baldur's Gate 2: Enhanced Edition
Battle Of The Sands
Bioshock Infinite
Blood Knights
Dark
Deus Ex: Human Revolution: Director's Cut
Divinity: Dragon Commander
Driftmoon
Drox Operative: Invasion of the Ancients
Eador: Master of the Broken World
Eldritch
Europa Universalis IV
Expeditions: Conquistador
Fallen Enchantress: Legendary Heroes
FTL
Legends of Aethereus
Legends of Dawn
Mars War Logs
Paper Sorcerer
Path of Exile
Realms of Arkania: Blade of Destiny HD
Sacred: Citadel
Shadowrun Returns
Space Hulk
Space Rangers HD
State of Decay
The Dark Eye: Demonicon
The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing
The Shadow Sun
XCOM: Enemy Within

One of the disadvantages of a forum based poll is that the amount of people contributing is lower compared to a poll like we did before. The advantage is that you can make it as complicated as possible

I'm for having a restricted number of games you can vote for like we have done in the past (1st, 2nd and 3rd place), that requires you to actually make a choice in what for you the best game was.

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January 21st, 2014, 09:24
We also had an award for most anticipated game. Our database (which is most likely to be incorrect) has this:
7 Days to Die
Age of Wonders 3
Arakion
Balrum
Blackguards
Bloom: Memories
Bound By Flame
Dead State
Dex
Divinity: Original Sin
Dragon Age: Inquisition
Eschalon: Book III
Fight The Dragon
Frontiers
Ghost of a Tale
Lords of the Fallen
Lords of Xulima
Might & Magic X: Legacy
Mistborn: Birthright
Nuclear Union
Pillars of Eternity
Planet Explorers
River City Ransom: Underground
Satellite Reign
Soul Saga
South Park: The Stick of Truth
SpellForce 2: Demons of the Past
Sui Generis
The Banner Saga
The Mandate
The Meridian Shard
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
Thief 4
Warmachine: Tactics
Wasteland 2
Worlds of Magic

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January 21st, 2014, 09:38
FTL was released in 2012 though. The Mobile version was released in 2013 and the extended version will be released in 2014.
But I think these lists need to be cut quite a bit.
Or do you really want XCom, Space Hulk, Fallen Enchantress and Europa Universalis compete for the title RPG of the year?
Same goes for 2014. Age of Wonders 3, Worlds of Magic, Thief 4 and probably a couple of others (don't know all the names).
Dark Souls 2 is missing btw. To be released on Consoles on March and on PC a little later.
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January 21st, 2014, 18:45
Myrthos said:
One of the disadvantages of a forum based poll is that the amount of people contributing is lower compared to a poll like we did before. The advantage is that you can make it as complicated as possible
Positive for a forum based poll:
Public votes - everyone can see your voting.
You have to think about your vote - no easy fan clicking for one game.

IMHO many votes don't make a vote better per se. Votes from RPG enthusiasts who really think about their vote make a poll result better.
The poll result can then be used as a recommendation for other players.

Voting for more than 3 games is a plus for me, too.

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