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March 23rd, 2014, 06:16
Alexander Saeedy has written a new article on Kill Screen were he gives his confession on why he quit playing Baldur's Gate 2. I foresee many comments so keep it civil.
The dungeons of Baldur's Gate 2 have yet to be plundered. Inside its halls, goblins await a band of heroes. The keys to the library sit in the second sewer tunnel, directly behind a black cauldron. An NPC Golem sits inside of a laboratory, not yet fooled into leading me inside his master’s crypt. And in the middle of all this, I pray for vindication and satisfaction. Because this has been a pretty damn dull experience.

I felt one thing within the ten hours that I played of Baldur's Gate 2: Enhanced Edition: frustration. Bitter, difficult, and unrelenting frustration. I'm a huge fan of getting nostalgic, especially when it comes to videogames. Sixty hours of turn-based combat in Fire Emblem? No problem. But to really enjoy a game, you need more than passive, inanimate respect for structure and mechanics. It requires a certain nameless excitement. Sometimes, we call it “fun.” But as I sat playing Baldur's Gate 2 on a borrowed PC from my university's library, I couldn’t grasp any sort of joy, ecstasy, or insight. Everything felt … outdated. Unprovocative.
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March 23rd, 2014, 06:16
I don't recommend anyone reading anything from that site (including the comments) if you have anger issues and don't want to lose some of your thinking ability.
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March 23rd, 2014, 08:33
To paraphrase this article's ridiculous fairy floss for purple-prose, "what a boring piece of writing". Roaming the dungeons of BG2 is infinitely more interesting than reading that pseudo-intellectual clap-trap. Bah. A try-hard Gamasutra article, to be sure.

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March 23rd, 2014, 10:33
But as I sat playing*Baldur's Gate 2*on a borrowed PC from my university's library
So this guy doesn't even own a PC, but he's attempting to review a PC game? Wow…
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March 23rd, 2014, 13:29
Could not bring myself to read the article but from that excerpt i get the distinct impression that he simply could not get over the graphics.
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March 23rd, 2014, 13:37
He could not get over himself Biff. "A man of my refined tastes and intellect needs something much more sophisticated than BG2". I wonder what games he actually likes…
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March 23rd, 2014, 13:37
His only concrete example is being a "little mouse" and clicking, the rest is pure rambling. With his references being the Last of Us, Resident Evil and examples like Zelda it's obvious he's a console gamer. Doubt he spent more than a few hours with it, both the screenshots he used were grabbed from the internet.

I'd just like to interject here and point out that I'm not going to say anything to spoil the mood, Chief. I'll just float here and watch. Don't mind me, just sitting here, floating and watching, that's me.
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March 23rd, 2014, 14:05
He is just too sexy for a PC. Or a laptop apparently.
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March 23rd, 2014, 14:48
Pretty funny to me. He says:

We can debate whether or not BG2 was a "good" or "bad" game—public opinion will suggest the former, obviously—but I believe that what’s at stake is the right way to think about videogames. I've come face-to-face with a wall of awards collecting dust, and it tells me that this game is great and I'm an idiot for thinking otherwise. Perhaps it's easier at the end of the day to play the "context card" and blissfully reflect on the eclectic ways of the past. Call me a n00b and call it a day.
I guess the bottom line for this guy is he feels he has to justify why he didn't like a game and perhaps convince the whole world they should feel as he does. It's not that he's a noob, he just a little immature.
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March 23rd, 2014, 14:55
I'm glad to have him to tell me the "right" way to think about videogames! Because, ladies and gentlemen, nothing less than that was at stake here! Whew we really dodged a bullet!
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March 23rd, 2014, 15:43
Very sad, but not surprising. Some people can only enjoy Skyrim or Diablo type RPGs, in other words, an CRPG which would make an incredibly shallow pen and paper game. Deep and interesting mechanics never were able to draw a huge audience, as the comparatives sales from RPGS and Shooters clearly demonstrate.
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March 23rd, 2014, 17:53
Having just finished BG2:EE, in just under 100 hours, I have to say that I liked it more than when I played it when it came out. But it is a really hard game. I don't have a lot of time to play RPGs any more (on anything else for that matter) and my skills are certainly lacking, but I've played a lot of infinity engine games and don't suck completely. And I found it hard. Awesome, but challenging. I finished ToB (so good, man) on the lowest setting and still had to repeat a couple of battles. I had actually played through BG:EE just before and, honestly, I don't think that you can play that game without quite some skill and have fun at it. And already Irenicus' dungeon in the beginning is tough. And actually not that good.

I think he got the "context" thing right, but mixed up the context. It's not about nostalgia or "period" context. It's about whether you bring what it takes to the table and that means at least having played BG1 not too long ago.
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March 23rd, 2014, 18:01
This Yale undergraduate and aspiring historian could have saved himself a lot of effort and just said it wasn't his cup of tea.
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March 23rd, 2014, 19:08
Originally Posted by JDR13 View Post
So this guy doesn't even own a PC, but he's attempting to review a PC game? Wow…
Exactly what I thought. It conjured up images of that obamacare add with that picture of an infantile boy-man sitting in his pajamas drinking a latte.

If I'm right but there is no wife around to acknowledge it, am I still right?
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March 23rd, 2014, 19:13
Another stupid "against the stream" article.Ok i'm gonna make a 3 pages article full of verbalism in order to say why games like PES are outdated and should be abandoned in the name of human evolution.It doesn't matter that i played very little to nothing of these kind of games cause they are not my style.If i write my "heretic" opinion with style than it will be ….ehm …..it wil be……well whatever
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March 23rd, 2014, 19:49
Originally Posted by zahratustra View Post
He could not get over himself Biff. "A man of my refined tastes and intellect needs something much more sophisticated than BG2". I wonder what games he actually likes…
Fire Emblem, he mention it at the start of the article (it's a console only series made by Nintendo).
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March 23rd, 2014, 20:01
Originally Posted by DogInARocket View Post
This Yale undergraduate and aspiring historian could have saved himself a lot of effort and just said it wasn't his cup of tea.
But he thinks that he's so awesome that one-liner would never do!
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March 23rd, 2014, 20:35
Obviously part of the social media generation. Facebook and Twitter apparently aren't enough of an avenue to vomit his opinion on subjects he knows very little about to a small group of friends. Problem is, subject matter knowledge is sort of critical if you're going to dribble out articles and expect folks to take you seriously.
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March 23rd, 2014, 20:50
Originally Posted by zahratustra View Post
But he thinks that he's so awesome that one-liner would never do!
Seems so. But with that awesomeness comes the burden and mental anguish of having to resolve how one's opinions could differ from those of others through mathematical equations and lengthy diatribe.
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March 23rd, 2014, 21:03
Obviosuly I'm in the minority, but I've never gotten into the Infinity games as much as everone else. Lovingly crafted, great stories, engaging characters…and awful combat mechanic. To each his/her own.
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