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November 19th, 2014, 13:58
It seems we have enough games to play right now, but a game I was looking forward too as well will be released next week. I haven't heard anything about Raven's Cry for some weeks now. That's not a good sign, I'm a little concerned.

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November 19th, 2014, 14:11
There is never "enough games to play", thus I've preordered Raven's Cry ages ago.
Sadly, just like Wasteland 2 and Lords of Xulima it'll have to wait on my side.

Because I'm on Valkyria Chronicles and in a couple of days I'll be on Dragon age 3.

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November 19th, 2014, 15:49
I got it wishlisted, but am cautious… Not sure what to make of this one yet, so definitely holding off until I see some reviews.

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November 19th, 2014, 17:36
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There is never "enough games to play", thus I've preordered Raven's Cry ages ago.
Haven't pre-ordered yet as I didn't like TW2 that much. Will wait for some reviews. If it's any good I don't mind the 10% I could save by pre-ordering.

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November 20th, 2014, 11:06
I've seen a few videos of Raven's Cry, and I think it might be decent. It reminds me of the Risen series except in a more realistic world.

It also has the best in-game song… ever. —> Hangin Willie
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November 20th, 2014, 14:11
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I've seen a few videos of Raven's Cry, and I think it might be decent.
It might. Not to hear anything from them for such a long time might as well mean that there are some (technical) problems.
It also has the best in-game song… ever. —> Hangin Willie
Yeah, that's pirate material.

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November 20th, 2014, 23:10
It's a bit weird that two out of three preview videos on Steam are karaoke ones…
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November 20th, 2014, 23:19
Weird or not it instasold the game to me.

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November 25th, 2014, 10:07
The new release date on amazon.de is January 30th 2015. That's for the boxed version only, for the Steam code it's still November 27th. But I doubt that they'll ship the boxed version 2 month later than the digital version. Well… we'll perhaps see on thursday.

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November 25th, 2014, 12:26
Yup, no preload yet. Odd.
Maybe they're fighting australian censorship, can't even imagine their reaction on the song, haha

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November 26th, 2014, 08:01
Ok, I'm an idiot. In the announcement from October 10th it's clearly stated that the retail and console versions will be released in Q1 2015. So the amazon release date isn't a new thing.

Still there remains the fact with a lack of news.

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November 26th, 2014, 21:09
Release date for Steam version on amazon.de now is December 16th.

Edit: Same for Steam shop now.

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November 28th, 2014, 10:10
Someone on the Steam forums posted a link to a newsbit on a website of a German law office which says that TopWare has filed for insolvency in September. There even is a file number given, however I couldn't find anything for this file number on the official German website where information about insolvency proceedings is normally published.

So while it's not verified that TopWare is insolvent, it might be a valid explanation for the lack of PR and news.

edit: The insolvency proceeding is for TopWare Entertainment, not TopWare Interactive.

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November 28th, 2014, 11:06
Different company: T Interactive AG <-> T Ent. GmbH.
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November 28th, 2014, 11:23
Hm… are you sure? The news aboput the insolvence proceeding is on the German Wikipedia article for TopWare Interactive too. Of course they might have mixed this up as well…

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November 28th, 2014, 11:45
No, they're saying the same thing: It seems the GmbH filed for insolvency.

I wouldn't be surprised if all the IP brand and distribution rights are owned by the AG.
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November 28th, 2014, 11:57
Ok, then appareantly Entertainment is some kind of an affiliated company. Perhaps they would have been responsible for PR stuff?

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November 28th, 2014, 12:30
Something like that. It makes a lot of sense to channel all the risky business stuff through a daughter company.
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November 28th, 2014, 21:42
Here's the court note:
Amtsgericht Karlsruhe
Beschluss


In dem Insolvenzantragsverfahren der

TopWare Entertainment GmbH
Ottostraße 3
76275 Ettlingen

(AG Mannheim, HRB 703076),

vertreten durch:

Dirk Paul Hassinger (Geschäftsführer)
Rittnertstraße 36
76227 Karlsruhe

wird heute, am 08.09.2014, um 12.00 Uhr, zur Sicherung der künftigen Insolvenzmasse und zur Aufklärung des Sachverhaltes angeordnet (§§ 21, 22 InsO):

Zum vorläufigen Insolvenzverwalter wird bestellt: Rechtsanwalt Harald Kroth, Eisenbahnstraße 19-23, 77855 Achern, Tel.: 07841/7080, Fax: 07841/708301

Verfügungen der Schuldnerin über Gegenstände ihres Vermögens sind nur noch mit Zustimmung des vorläufigen Insolvenzverwalters wirksam (§ 21 Abs. 2 Nr. 2, 2. Halbsatz InsO).

Der vorläufige Insolvenzverwalter ist nicht der allgemeine Vertreter der Schuldnerin.

Er hat die Aufgabe, durch Überwachung der Schuldnerin deren Vermögen zu sichern und zu erhalten.

Den Schuldnern der Schuldnerin (Drittschuldnern) wird verboten, an die Schuldnerin zu zahlen. Der vorläufige Insolvenzverwalter wird ermächtigt, Bankguthaben und sonstige Forderungen der Schuldnerin einzuziehen sowie eingehende Gelder entgegenzunehmen; insoweit geht die Verwaltungs- und Verfügungsbefugnis über das schuldnerische Vermögen auf den vorläufigen Insolvenzverwalter über (§ 22 Absatz 2 Satz 1 InsO). Die Drittschuldner werden aufgefordert, nur noch unter Beachtung dieser Anordnung zu leisten (§ 23 Abs. 1 Satz 3 InsO).

Der Schuldnerin wird hinsichtlich der von ihr geführten Aktiv- und Passivprozesse ein allgemeines Verfügungsverbot auferlegt und wird der vorläufige Insolvenzverwalter, Rechtsanwalt Harald Kroth Eisenbahnstraße 19 - 23, 77855 Achern ermächtigt, Aktiv- und Passivprozesse der Schuldnerin zu führen.

Damit geht die der Schuldnerin zustehende Prozessführungsbefugnis uneingeschränkt auf den vorläufigen Insolvenzverwalter über ( vgl. BGH Urteil vom 16.05.2013, Az. IX ZR 332/12 = ZInsO 2013, 1516 = NZI 2013, 747 ).

Dieser Beschluss hat die in § 240 Satz 2 ZPO bezeichneten Wirkungen.

Maßnahmen der Zwangsvollstreckung einschließlich der Vollziehung eines Arrests oder einer einstweiligen Verfügung gegen die Schuldnerin werden untersagt, soweit nicht unbewegliche Gegenstände betroffen sind; bereits begonnene Maßnahmen werden einstweilen eingestellt (§ 21 Abs. 2 Nr. 3 InsO).

Der vorläufige Insolvenzverwalter ist berechtigt, die Geschäftsräume und betrieblichen Einrichtungen der Schuldnerin einschließlich der Nebenräume zu betreten und dort Nachforschungen anzustellen. Die Schuldnerin hat ihm Einsicht in die Bücher und Geschäftspapiere zu gestatten und sie ihm auf Verlangen bis zur Entscheidung über die Eröffnung des Verfahrens herauszugeben. Sie hat ihm alle Auskünfte zu erteilen, die zur Sicherung der künftigen Insolvenzmasse und zur Aufklärung der schuldnerischen Vermögensverhältnisse erforderlich sind. Bei Missachtung dieser Pflicht kann das Gericht die Schuldnerin zur Abgabe der eidesstattlichen Versicherung laden, zwangsweise vorführen lassen oder in Haft nehmen (§ 22 Abs. 3, §§ 97, 98, 101 InsO).

Der vorläufige Insolvenzverwalter wird zugleich beauftragt, als Sachverständiger zu prüfen, ob ein nach der Rechtsform der Schuldnerin maßgebender Eröffnungsgrund vorliegt und welche Aussichten für eine Fortführung des schuldnerischen Unternehmens bestehen. Er hat ferner zu prüfen, ob das schuldnerische Vermögen die Kosten des Verfahrens decken wird (§ 22 Abs. 1 Nr. 3, Abs. 2 InsO).

Dieser Beschluss kann innerhalb von zwei Wochen ab Zustellung beim Amtsgericht Karlsruhe, Schlossplatz 23, 76131 Karlsruhe mit der sofortigen Beschwerde (schriftlich und eigenhändig unterzeichnet oder zu Protokoll der Geschäftsstelle) angefochten werden.

Karlsruhe, den 08.09.2014
Amtsgericht
As you can see, the commercial register number, court and CEO is not the same:
TopWare Interactive AG
Rittnertstraße 36
76227 Karlsruhe, Germany

Vorstandsvorsitzende (CEO):
Alexandra Constandache
Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Mannheim
HRB: 111109
Ust.Id: DE 813208721
I'm sure they try to save the company this way. But I am sceptical about this company.

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November 29th, 2014, 03:00
Well, the people involved from the different Topware sides are well known.
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