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May 21st, 2009, 08:06
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You might want to think twice about pulling review scores … looking at Etrian Odyssey II in terms of scores would put it as 'better' than The Witcher, Gothic, Jade Empire, Arcanum, King's Bounty and many others that would likely populate a 'best of PC RPG in the last 2000's' list ….
Yes but I think we're all aware that there's generally a different standard for the way console and PC games are reviewed. You can basically shit in a box and label it "RPG", and many of these console reviewers will still give it 8 out of 10. That's not to say all console RPGs are shit, because there's quite a few I like myself. But don't try to tell me that the Nintendo DS has more quality RPGs than "all other platforms combined" since 2006, unless you're referring to consoles only.


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And also largely the types of games - adventure, classic RPG's, etc - that no longer find a home on the PC.
Not to nitpick but…..

"Classic RPGs"? Like what? …..Not to mention there's probably a good reason they're not finding a home on the PC.
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May 21st, 2009, 08:32
Suikoden teirkreis, Dark tower?(too retro for me), Etrian Oddessy 1&2, Mazes of Fate, Chrono Trigger, FF4 are all good games, i would put Suikoden Teirkreis
Mazes of Fate, Chrono Trigger as classics.
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May 21st, 2009, 11:27
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Suikoden teirkreis, Dark tower?(too retro for me), Etrian Oddessy 1&2, Mazes of Fate, Chrono Trigger, FF4 are all good games, i would put Suikoden Teirkreis
Mazes of Fate, Chrono Trigger as classics.
Highlighted the directly PC style games … and definitely Dark Spire as well.

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May 21st, 2009, 11:28
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Yes but I think we're all aware that there's generally a different standard for the way console and PC games are reviewed. You can basically shit in a box and label it "RPG", and many of these console reviewers will still give it 8 out of 10.
I completely agree in the case of consoles … but I haven't found that to be the case with the DS. Take again the case of Etrian Odyssey, and Dark Spire, and so many others.

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May 21st, 2009, 13:04
I need to start using my DS more. Oddly enough, I use my PSP all the time - I managed to take all my PS1 CDs and convert them to ISOs, then convert those to PSP-compatible image files and put them on one of my SD Cards. Last year when I was interning in DC I beat Parasite Eve, Suikoden, and Chrono Cross while commuting on the metro.
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May 21st, 2009, 22:32
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Last year when I was interning in DC I beat Parasite Eve, Suikoden, and Chrono Cross while commuting on the metro.
Bought Parasite Eve 1&2 off Ebay last year, I haven't had time to play them yet, although I finished them years ago when they were originally released. I remember liking PE2 a lot more because it had a 'survival horror' feel to it.

I could never make it very far into Chrono Cross for some reason, despite being a fan of it's prequel. I didn't like the combat, and the characters felt uninspired to me, especially when compared to Chrono Trigger.
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May 22nd, 2009, 03:21
Probably a port of Redguard or that Pirate game.
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May 22nd, 2009, 03:29
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Bought Parasite Eve 1&2 off Ebay last year, I haven't had time to play them yet, although I finished them years ago when they were originally released. I remember liking PE2 a lot more because it had a 'survival horror' feel to it.
I liked PE1 better, personally. PE2 was cool as well but I didn't get very far in it.

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I could never make it very far into Chrono Cross for some reason, despite being a fan of it's prequel. I didn't like the combat, and the characters felt uninspired to me, especially when compared to Chrono Trigger.
I remember Chrono Cross's combat being pretty damn easy, and a lot of its characters definitely suffered from "Suikoden Syndrome", but the characters that actually mattered were pretty good, and I actually found its story and plot much better than Trigger.
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May 22nd, 2009, 04:55
As an aside … I'm starting Jagged Alliance on the DS tonight … and I sure as heck wouldn';t complain about PS:T

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May 22nd, 2009, 06:48
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I remember Chrono Cross's combat being pretty damn easy, and a lot of its characters definitely suffered from "Suikoden Syndrome", but the characters that actually mattered were pretty good, and I actually found its story and plot much better than Trigger.
That's what annoyed me about CC, there were so many joinable NPCs (wasn't there like 50?!) , how did you know which ones mattered? Maybe I'll give it another try someday, but I can't imagine ever liking it as much as Chrono Trigger. They just made the plot overly complicated imo.
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May 22nd, 2009, 13:11
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As an aside … I'm starting Jagged Alliance on the DS tonight … and I sure as heck wouldn';t complain about PS:T
Ho! That's out?! Is it an entirely new game, or remark of 2(which I just started playing…) Can you let me know how it compares?
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May 22nd, 2009, 13:12
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That's what annoyed me about CC, there were so many joinable NPCs (wasn't there like 50?!) , how did you know which ones mattered? Maybe I'll give it another try someday, but I can't imagine ever liking it as much as Chrono Trigger. They just made the plot overly complicated imo.
Yeah. Well, the main characters of note (other then Serge) are uh…Kid, Harle…and a few others. I basically only used the same 4 or 5 guys the whole game. And yeah, the plot got complicated, but once I managed to figure out what was going on I had a pretty damn good time of it.
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May 22nd, 2009, 13:17
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As an aside … I'm starting Jagged Alliance on the DS tonight … and I sure as heck wouldn';t complain about PS:T
You lost me with that one. Are you trying to say they're porting PS:T to the DS?!
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May 23rd, 2009, 03:38
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Ho! That's out?! Is it an entirely new game, or remark of 2(which I just started playing…) Can you let me know how it compares?
It is a port of the original. Looks and plays great so far.

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You lost me with that one. Are you trying to say they're porting PS:T to the DS?!
What I am saying is that having ports of classics that many gamers never experienced before due to console choice, age, or whatever reason isn't a bad thing. ChronoTrigger DS was one of the best games on any platform in 2008 … even if it is basically an updated port of an old game.

I *wish* they would bring PS:T to the DS … stuff like Broken Sword and Jagged Alliance is great, but hey …

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June 1st, 2009, 01:56
Do you guys think Bethesda will reveal their game at E3?
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June 1st, 2009, 08:22
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Do you guys think Bethesda will reveal their game at E3?
You mean Brink?
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June 1st, 2009, 08:50
Nope their wii game. That game is for ps360.
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