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Alrik Fassbauer February 28th, 2013 02:05

SWTOR : EA/Bioware seemingly fired the French & German Community Representatives
 
Hello, everyone,

I just learned a few minutes ago that EA / Bioware seemingly fired both the French and German community representatives/moderators.

Now, people wildly speculate why. No-one has an idea, apart from "reducing costs".

The German community feels like abandoned and neglected, and the thought has arisen that both the French and the German SWTOR communities are not "wothy" enough for EA or/and Bioware.
Of course, people are angry now because of that.

Another point is that the English-language SWTOR forums might have undergone an restructuring, too.

Wild speculation and frustration right now.

Alrik

joxer February 28th, 2013 02:24

All communities are worthy.

For Germany IMO the answer is simple. German laws disallow any form of a fraud and con jobs EA is preparing. Community manager probably told greedy EA CEO to shove off with EA agenda how to sell nothing in a nice package and charge hundreds of deutchmarks for it. Okay, euros. God, I adore Merkel although she's not the one who made those laws, but still… In any case I really don't expect EA will get another german CM as every single one of them will tell CEO that in Germany some stuff are illegal.

For France… Dunno.

Couchpotato February 28th, 2013 02:30

Typical business as usual that's all. It's EA come on we all know how they operate.

ChienAboyeur February 28th, 2013 10:16

Not worthy enough or skilled enough.

EA/Bioware investigating work might as well determined that both French and German playing communauties were sufficiently proficient in english to blend in the "world" communauty.

ChienAboyeur February 28th, 2013 10:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061186177)
All communities are worthy.

For Germany IMO the answer is simple. German laws disallow any form of a fraud and con jobs EA is preparing. Community manager probably told greedy EA CEO to shove off with EA agenda how to sell nothing in a nice package and charge hundreds of deutchmarks for it. Okay, euros. God, I adore Merkel although she's not the one who made those laws, but still… In any case I really don't expect EA will get another german CM as every single one of them will tell CEO that in Germany some stuff are illegal.

For France… Dunno.

Players will keep playing their games. The government wont get involved. Video gaming is a very appreciated leisure, then a means of appeasing the crowd and one sector of "growth"

Maylander February 28th, 2013 11:09

What's with the conspiracy theories? Worthy? Fraud? It's probably a simple matter of being too small to pay the bills of a whole support division.

Alrik Fassbauer February 28th, 2013 11:43

I read that English community reps/mods have been fired, too.

I don't have any reliable information on that right now, though.

But - there is undeniable anger among the German SWTOR players.
So much that they just decided to open up German-language topics in the English-language forums - assuming (and protesting against it at the same time) that their German forums (and the French ones as well) will be closed at one point because of the reps/mods having been fired.

Maylander March 1st, 2013 10:48

Wait, what? The English ones are gone too? What on earth is going on there?

azarhal March 1st, 2013 14:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maylander (Post 1061186447)
Wait, what? The English ones are gone too? What on earth is going on there?

Maybe they refused to apply the new forums rules.

Also, it's the 3rd time the English community manager "leave" (well if it was the boss of all the CM again).

joxer March 1st, 2013 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by azarhal (Post 1061186465)
Maybe they refused to apply the new forums rules.

That's definetly the reason! :D

Charles-cgr March 1st, 2013 17:55

How many subscribers do they have? Last I heard it was a big disappointment and people flocked right back to WoW. Or quit MMOs entirely.

Alrik Fassbauer March 1st, 2013 19:51

Since it wenz F2P, it seems to be a bit better now.

The German community currently holds several beliefs because of what happened :

- Bioware / EA isn't interested in the German community anymore
- the existence of the German-language forums is nonsense right now without any proper moderators
- SWTOR is sinking, because EA / Bioware had to cut money so sharp that they even fired these moderators/representatives.

Besides, some of these mods/reps seem (?) to have reappeared in other EA communities again - with similar roles.

As a result of these beliefs, the German community had decided to completely abandon the German-language forums, simply because no-one will hardly ever read them from official side anymore.

So, if they want to be heard, they argue, they MUST go into the exile - into the English-language forums.

From which their German-language threads were moved back into the German-language forums, where no-one of/from the officials will ever read them.

Okay, one official statred that Bioware / EA indeed wants to read and listen to the German dforums, but in this statement it was also said that this would be "le4ss than before" - and the German Community saw only rarely official reactions when the mods/reps wre still there !

One special comment posted by an English-language forums user in an German-language thread which was at *that time* in the English-language forums is especially insulting :

Quote:

Trollokdamus
I think one thread in German is enough guys, stop spamming the board with gibberish (to me), please >.>
His profile states that his place of living is "Moscow, Russia".

Charles-cgr March 1st, 2013 20:31

Things are a bit better because it is free… That doesn't say much good about their economic situation. Ingame purchases were probably a desperate attempt to turn things around imho. It's apparently slowly going bust, and like anything that goes under, it upsets customers (non-paying in this case).

Moriendor March 1st, 2013 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alrik Fassbauer (Post 1061186504)
One special comment posted by an English-language forums user in an German-language thread which was at *that time* in the English-language forums is especially insulting

The only thing I consider insulting and disgusting is the sense of entitlement of the German gamers. To assume the right to post in German to the English forums is retarded. If a forum is English then -out of respect for everyone who is participating- you need to stick to the English language so everyone (and especially the moderators) can read and understand what you are saying. The forum moderation therefore has every right in the world to move threads to the German forums.

Star Wars The Old Republic is a game created by a US studio that is only translated and localized for the German market. The world does not revolve around Germany as some German gamers like to think.
People can still play the German translated game on German servers. EA has only dropped the German community management. So what? Big deal. Life goes on.
Do German gamers seriously believe that previously to this move they had any game changing influence on anything? Really? They may want to consider rejoining us in reality some time ;) .
Reality is that German forums are only run to appease the German community and give them a sense of "home" and some basic customer service. It may not be overly nice of EA to pull that support but business decisions don't always have to be nice. If people don't like it -> Vote with your wallet and cancel your sub or stop playing if you're a F2P gamer. Simple as that.


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