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Kamaz October 19th, 2019 07:08

SpaceWreck: postapoc space RPG inspired by Fallout
 
Hello!

Steam page: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1063540/Space_Wreck/
Trailer:
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Release (EA): February 28, 2020

I'm developing a hardcore RPG SpaceWreck inspired by the Fallout games, especially Fallout, Fallout 2, New Vegas, Arcanum being not far away as well. This is a very indie production - for some two years I was making the game alone, then launched it as a browser game on itch.io (I call it pre-alpha version now) got feedback, worked on improvements until I realized the game looks now completely different and decided to relaunch it as premium downloadable stand alone app on Steam platform where all the real games live. In the process, friend of mine, an artist, convinced me to accept his help and switch to different artstyle. Which I did.

https://i.ibb.co/JpYzKSF/bulta-upper-deck.png
Comparison of original and new art-style

The game was complete (in a sense, it had all the story) year and a half ago however I've been working ever since the initial release on deepening every aspect of the story and game. The game is not long and I try not to make it any longer, I just add new options on how to complete it, elaborate existing approach, and, currently, switching RPG mechanics under the hood. The official motto of our development is
Quote:

Inch wide, miles deep
I'd like this game to played like this: you come from work, days end, just grab the game and play through it in one sitting. And, while playing, you can see that there are many options you can choose from to role-play character the way you want. And, if you are curious, you can spend next afternoon (or more) digging deeper into story, lore or characters. In that sense, I tend to think of the story as an onion - there are layers and you can decide how deep you want to cut.

Anyways, I wanted to create a thread here, where people do appreciate good RPGs (you know, the ones about role-playing and not just fire-rate stats). I would like to post semi-regular small updates here if you don't mind.

P.S.
And I would love to answer questions about the game, of course.

Kordanor October 19th, 2019 13:28

Looks interesting. I guess the graphics style will be quite off-putting for lot of people though. Not sure I can get used to it.
It might just be the video (the screenshots are all small resolution) but the font seems to be a bit blurry which doesnt help (next to being light blueish on white).

Btw you can embed youtube in this forum by using the [ youtube ] [ / youtube ] tag (without spaces) and putting the youtube video name in between. Like this (just quote my post)

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Kamaz October 19th, 2019 19:11

Thanks for you-tube embedd tip, dunno why it failed when I tried. Oh well.

Yeah, the graphics are somewhat divisive. Initially this started as a fun practice of JavaScript after my startup failed and I had to get a different job. And I drew all the art myself. Later my colleague just retouched the existing one.

Most likely I will keep it as it is but maybe in future I should look into buying some more generic yet acceptable assets.

Kamaz October 22nd, 2019 06:30

As promised, I'll post small tidbits of updates.

This time it's the F.A.Q. man - A.I. assistant in the starting area, the passenger ship.

https://i.ibb.co/mXwVnCd/SW-F-A-Q-MAN.gif

The purpose of this character is to allow player to learn about world without breaking the 4th wall and immersion. I mean, you are playing a character that has lived in the world of SpaceWeck all her/his life and she/he should now a lot of basic stuff. But you have not and, while a lot of the world is the same and share similar concepts, there are notable differences.

I think that's why, for example, Fallout series puts you in the shoes of vault dweller - so your character has lived in relatively similar comfortable, safe, modern environment as the player; unlike most of the people in Wasteland. Would be hard to role-play someone who has lived for years in the radioactive wastes otherwise.

F.A.Q. man is a typical video interactive screen stand with voice recognition you can find in many malls. In this case it is programmed with most common questions people ask the staff.

crpgnut October 22nd, 2019 15:05

I can't go back to graphics like that but I wish you luck.

daveyd October 23rd, 2019 22:38

I think I can look past the graphics if the gameplay is as good as I think it will be. Most of the Fallout inspired RPGs to emerge in the past several years have focused almost entirely on turn-based tactical combat and the post-apocalyptic setting… While that's cool, it neglects the very thing that made Fallout 1 & 2 so great IMO. Aside from random radscorpions, you could approach virtually every quest and encounter in multiple ways, by utilizing many non-combat skills. In other words, roleplay.

The developer of SpaceWreck really seems to get that.

Kamaz November 5th, 2019 07:22

Appreciate the input! Worst kind of feedback is no feedback, so, if you've got comments, keep them coming.

https://i.ibb.co/stjHSz4/Robot-Reass…inter-Room.png

Working on a new map - slightly dilapidated industrial area on an abandoned space station.

Kamaz November 6th, 2019 07:13

…and a bit of lonely and drab space bay
https://i.ibb.co/q7KgVRZ/localhost-5…9-06-28-04.png

Kamaz November 9th, 2019 22:33

Parks and rec in postapoc space
https://i.ibb.co/QfJ3TYV/localhost-5…9-21-39-37.png

Survivors of the great clash between corporation and the asteroid miners were left to fend for themselves on drifting pieces of destroyed ships and stations. Air circulation systems can and go out of order, so plants provide much needed additional CO2 absorption and oxygen regeneration.

Kamaz November 16th, 2019 14:38

A weathered space ship repair station

https://i.ibb.co/Tqbj2hf/localhost-5…9-14-27-45.png

crpgnut November 16th, 2019 17:53

I just hope the guy doesn't get discouraged if the game doesn't sell much. This doesn't look like a money-making endeavor, but if it's just a labor of love or a learning experience, then maybe it will be satisfying all the same. For every Underrail there are thousands of forget-ables.

I could also be wrong.

Kamaz November 23rd, 2019 14:45

Today a look into behind-the-scenes of game's development process.

Dialogues are at the core of great RPGs and Space Wreck is no exception - a lot of gameplay is in the conversations with various NPCs. There must be skill checks (speech, science etc.), state checks (what's the state of world? what have you done?), and enough to provide player with context and lore. To accomplish all of this, one needs robust yet powerful dialogue editor. I've been trying out different solutions over the years in my previous projects and this probably is my favourite:

https://streamable.com/vjis8

Kamaz December 1st, 2019 13:30

I really liked how original Fallout had a description for every tile, map object. That reminded me of tabletop games where GM could describe anything in greater detail if you wished to pay attention to. Sometimes that opened new opportunities, rewarding player for paying attention to the environment.

Unfortunately, nowadays this is a rare sight in RPGs. Arcanum, Pillars of Eternity, Divine Divinity - to my dismay, unfortunately none of those great RPGs have this feature.

In Space Wreck though, you can examine every object tile if you wish.

https://i.ibb.co/NZVnvzg/SW-inspect-tiles.gif

Iggy_Gamechuck December 3rd, 2019 10:42

This looks really ambitious, and a really well-made RPG game. Loved the first two Fallout games; couldn't really get into F3/F4.

Wishlisted!

Kamaz December 15th, 2019 07:48

https://i.ibb.co/f110Wrs/koridors.png

(A still from the intro)

Your character has arrived to a floating space wreck, decades after the violent riots.

Kamaz December 17th, 2019 07:27

Replaced rotating knobs with rubbery illuminated toggle button switches. The old knobs were kind of cool but hard to quickly get a read on its state.

Old:
https://i.ibb.co/1LgYr2s/Robot-Reass…ter-Room-2.png

New:
https://i.ibb.co/3drT0x3/SW-toggle-button-set.gif

Kamaz December 28th, 2019 22:04

There's a RPG mechanic I decided to introduce in the game - detect lie.

https://i.ibb.co/KGKCg5H/SW-detect-lie.gif

You can check every phrase a NPC says to you, like in table-top role-playing games with human game master. That allows you to get additional context for conversation or the character, his/her agenda.

Behind the scenes, there's dice rolling - you roll PERCEPTION against NPC's FOCUS. If you fail the skill check, you get "truth" reading no matter what.

Besides binary output of TRUTH/LIE in form of blinking lights, you also get description of how successful your roll was in range 1-5. Here are the lines:

Quote:

1 - "You have absolutely no idea whether this is or is not %status%. 50/50"
2 - "You have no clue, but if you had to guess, you'd say that this is a %status%"
3 - "Probably this is %status%. At least you think so."
4 - "You are fairly confident that this is a %status%"
5 - "You are almost completely sure this is a %status%"
>5 - "No doubt that this is a %status%"
Together with personality read mentioned earlier, this makes PERCEPTION useful for diplomatic characters, so it's not just max out CHARM/speech.

Kamaz January 12th, 2020 07:36

Some time ago I decided to rework quite drastically the existing RPG system (might I note, a bit similar as original Fallout switched from GURPS to SPECIAL late in dev cycle). I migrated from quite weird and esoteric system (your skills are represented with custom dice that has as many points on the sides, as high is your skill level, max 25) to more classic 4d3 (either +1, -1 or 0 on sides) dice system with all attributes 1-5.

While the old system was …interesting; new one is just better statistically - there's nice bell curve distribution which comes in handy for e.g. ranged hit chance, visibility, lock-picking rolls etc. And the other reason for switch - 1-25 turned out to be too numerically wide of a gap, I mean, it was hard to grade th difficulty on scale of 1-25. Siwtching to 1-5 seems more organic and easier to understand - 3 is 'learned', 2 - 'amateur', 1 - 'noob' while 4 and 5 correspond to 'pro' and 'expert' respectively.

Main theme of this system is minimalism - IMO you don't need many attributes and stats and skills to have good role-playing options. Sometimes it even gets in the way - see dump stats and throwaway skills (e.g. gambling/outdoorsman vs small guns/lockpick in Fallout).

That is why we intentionally went for as small number of stats as possible. Ideally, they all should be equally represented in the gameplay and every single one - useful for something

Attributes

Those are fundamental character parameters - rest of the numbers are mostly derived from these base concepts, so they define your character.

https://i.ibb.co/DzbDYK2/Physical.png
Physical strength and agility, flexibility and speed; full control over one's physical potential. This attribute combines strength, endurance and dexterity - usually separate attributes in many RPG systems. Physical kind of is something the jocks, the athletes would possess in your typical U.S. high school movie.
Affects: HP, AP, carry weight, base DMG, melee
Note: physical is only way to raise HP. ATM, you don't get any other maxHP upgrades, even on levelups.

https://i.ibb.co/FHkP9Qf/Focus.png
Your mental strength, discipline; ability to concentrate all the resources to the task at hand.
Affects: AP, evasion, sneak and scitec (science & technology).

https://i.ibb.co/Wvm1fPC/Perception.png
Eyesight, hearing, attention, all the senses, intuition as well as general awareness and ability to quickly assess situation. Good perception allows you to read people and even detect lies.
Affects: evasion, ranged (weapons), lock-picking, dialog, fog of war

https://i.ibb.co/tmpQ9Ld/Charm.png
Likeness of one's persona. High charm make people other people more forthcoming to you; ready to listen and even accept your ideas. Essential if you are looking for diplomacy or seeking favors.
Affects: speech, sneak (yes, really)
Note: usually dump stat, I am trying to make it more prominent. First thing - there's difference between charm and speech; even though charm is directly dependent on charm, the base attribute has its own uses. One of the more controversial ones - the sneak. In this case, high charm means you are very confident and your walk, your stature raises no suspicion. You kind of blend in, hide in plain sight. I expect more functionality tied to this attribute in future.

https://i.ibb.co/rffKWmn/Work.png
This is a bit odd one. There's saying - genius is 1% talent and 99% hard work - you sacrifice attributes and early stats to get advantage at getting higher skills later in game. Don't rely on attributes you are born with, invest work to improve your skills.
Affects: rate of which you gain XP and thus improve your skills (from 80% at 1, to 200% XP at 5).
Note: considering that you mostly gain XP from quests (and not from kills!), you will not get as much skill points as the one that has maxed out the WORK. However, must remember that skills are not everything - many stats (like HP, lie detection, range etc.) of the character are dependent only on basic attributes and maxed out skill wont help there.

P.S.
Quick disclaimer: all of the above might change in future as it has in the past. Still, this is what I'm working with now.

Kamaz January 18th, 2020 13:45

Last week I continued work on new game area, the rock ship "Kurbads". Here's an early visual concept of the wreck:

https://i.ibb.co/9qjLwtK/SW-rockship…ds-concept.png

And there's a short clip of player traversing actual game map (work in progress):

https://i.ibb.co/HrzZYJh/SW-navigate-Kurbads.gif

These type of ships - called rockships - were primary means how ore, mined on asteroids, was delivered to the Earth. Usually asteroids with very high ore concentration (e.g. iron, Fe) are chosen for mining. Crews of miners with manual tools as well as huge rock mining machines dig material out and then it gets to the mobile refinery (though, must point out, iron is very pure on asteroids on account of there not being no oxygen) and then, in form of pure pellets, it is ready to be transported. That's when the rockship comes in - pellets are moved to the ship where they are frozen in place with a bit f water. So the pellets turn into a solid chunk of material that is fixed to the rockship. It then transports the "micro asteroid" to the orbit of Earth where it then thaws the contact surface and releases the …errr… "turd". With precise manipulations and following very specific calculations the chunk of material is propelled into downwards orbit that eventually brings the lump of material down to Earth, to the specified area - desert, usually - where it crashes just like an meteorite. And then it is extracted with conventional mining methods.

This specific ship - "Kurbads" - has suffered catastrophic damage while maintaining overall structure. The causes of this damage is yet to be uncovered but player can explore the damaged below-decks and learn more.

Kamaz January 25th, 2020 23:11

One of the character paths you can take in Space Wreck is a "techie" (essentially a nerd). Based on a SCITEC skill, it enables you to hack computers and learn both interesting (e.g. lore) and valuable (useful for quests) information. Or just [un]lock/control/fix/trigger things on the shipnet (inter ship network).

https://i.ibb.co/cYzzVh4/SW-computer-interface.gif

In the game, accessing computer also gives you basic crafting options - as in, with right tutorials (on the shipnet) you can do anything. That all probably makes this skill extremely powerful but remember - there are only six skills and it has to stand its own against traditionally useful combat skills, SPEECH and LOCKPICK.

Kamaz February 8th, 2020 13:27

Dialogues now show requirement tags for skill checks without exact number but ▲/▼ icon instead to indicate the difficulty. And there's also post-check animation to indicate that roll happened under the hood.

https://i.ibb.co/4NsY8Gf/SW-speech-roll.gif

And, yes, previously almost all of the dialogues were skill gated (think New Vegas) but now I'm adding/changing to rolls in some places.

Oh, and I am aware that there is great shizm between players that want to see mechanics (skill check rolls) and those who want more of an immersion. So, you can turn this all off and looks like this:

https://i.ibb.co/Lp9Ndqj/SW-speech-roll-no-tags.gif

Of course, it would be better not to show them to don't break the immersion however many players might just miss the idea that speech/skill affects your dialogue. Like, I loved Fallout 1 but I learned that it had speech checks only some time after I completed it first. New Vegas was great in this - it shows that there are tons of options to approach the quest. But it does make it all mechanical and metagamey in a while. But umm, thing is, I kind of like both approaches and some days prefer one over other, other days - vice versa.

Just curious - what's your take on this whole metagaming aspect, e.g. skill check indicators in dialogues?

Kamaz February 16th, 2020 04:48

This is how traveling between wrecks (de facto locations) in JUnkspace might look like.

https://i.ibb.co/qRx3Z2j/animationcockpit.gif

BTW, how many obscure gaming references can you find in the GIF?

Winterfart February 16th, 2020 14:55

I only recognize the brahmin.

Kamaz February 19th, 2020 19:19

Brahmin from Fallout, yes. @Winterfart +1

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Brahmin

1/3

Kamaz March 7th, 2020 16:45

I've been working on content, so there's not much to show atm. But here's tiny animations update for one of the enemies (or friend - it depends) you can encounter in game.

https://i.ibb.co/VtvrZdT/SW-cambot-shoots-ray.gif

While exploring Junkspace, you are likely to run into a cambot. Once a popular and cost-effective all-in-one security solution, they still guard company's property blissfully unaware of decades passed

Kamaz March 14th, 2020 12:34

https://i.ibb.co/vjLj36h/SW-multiple-choice.gif

Only one of the options gets you what you need, but all of them have skill-checks. Fail, and it may get you in trouble.

How to make the informed decision? Explore, gather information or use perception check to read NPC's personality profile.

Kamaz March 28th, 2020 21:04

Do you like mines in your RPG? I like mines.

Not the part where you step on one - that's just annoying. But I really like the creative tactical solutions they provide.

https://i.ibb.co/YNTyw8v/SW-place-a-mine.gif
You can place mines. Be careful though, once it is set it does not magically recognize you - it will detonate on anybody indiscriminately.

https://i.ibb.co/g68YPB5/SW-fail-to-disarm-a-mine.gif
Mines can, of course, be disarmed. It is a SCITEC skill roll and if you fail. Well, you've got 2 seconds to get away

https://i.ibb.co/4Rf1xhM/SW-succesfu…arm-a-mine.gif
…but if you succeed, you can pick up disarmed mine for yourself and place it wherever you need it.

Silver lining if you step on one - they leave reusable parts behind, so not completely a waste of hp.

Kamaz March 31st, 2020 23:28

https://i.ibb.co/gRv72GS/SW-trigger-a-trap.gif

Containers can be trapped too. You can evade taking damage with successful EVASION roll or, even better, spot the trap from afar with good PERCEPTION

https://i.ibb.co/vmxYvR4/SW-detect-a-trap.gif

Kamaz April 1st, 2020 07:37

UPDATE: now detect only on interaction update

https://i.ibb.co/9qCSGjh/SW-detect-a…n-interact.gif

Kamaz April 9th, 2020 19:55

Nothing major, just adjusted the tone, the colours for secondary DOS themed colour scheme. I think this nu blu is easier on the eyes.

https://i.ibb.co/ckYtNSy/new-blue-inventory.png
https://i.ibb.co/TWKM9Kt/new-blue-dialogue.pngp
https://i.ibb.co/qRjL7tz/new-blu-gui.png

I also switched to a more readable font, I think. Previous one was cool but all-caps is probably not the best choice for reading lots of text. And we got lots of text. 42k+ words as of now.

For the reference - this is how the DOS theme looked some time ago, with eye-burning blue and all-caps font:

https://i.ibb.co/hgG5LjW/DOS-theme.jpg

Kamaz April 18th, 2020 21:38

Redesigning characters art, now with all isometric angles.

New vs old
https://i.ibb.co/34RgRn7/SW-isometri…comparison.gif

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Kamaz April 25th, 2020 18:54

Playing Fallout, I was blown away first time I realized you can set a timer on a bomb and reverse-pickpocket it on NPC. And blow it up!

So, naturally, I had to have it in my game as well!

https://i.ibb.co/WfXY6Px/SW-place-an…lth-bomb-2.gif

Kamaz May 9th, 2020 20:28

I have implemented a simple item condition system.

Some items - mostly weapons, armour and tools - have condition parameter that affects their performance and longevity. The condition wears down with each use of an item - shot for weapons, application for tools and received hit for armour. Item that reaches condition 0, turns into a Junk. Weapons also lose damage proportionally (currently DMG = baseDMG * (0.5 + condition/200)).

You can repair items with lower condition instances but for that you have to have at least average (3/5) tinker skill. If not, you'll most likely throw away deteriorating guns always looking for one in better condition.

Special note is about condition 100, or, as I call them, pristine items. These items are basically new, unused or with minimal wear. They would not deteriorate any further. The idea being that items with condition below hundred are old and used, while new items wouldn't break down in the near future.

I do realize condition is not universally liked in RPGs, plus, original Fallouts did not have it in any form, it was only New Vegas that had in game. But, I have decided I want condition in Space Wreck because of these two reasons:
  1. It fits the crumbling derelict world. It directly demonstrates to the player some of the hurdles survivors in Junkspace have to endure - finding and maintaining equipment usable, looking for scraps to patch it and keep going.
  2. It kind of addresses the problem RPGs have - every enemy you face and inevitably best - will have a weapon. While first pistol can become your weapon, rest of them are much more useless. With condition there's always use for a copy of gun you already have.
https://i.ibb.co/R21B154/SW-condition-showcase.gif

Kamaz May 17th, 2020 06:52

Drugs. There are drugs in the game now. Need to be more perceptive to read this person? Want to ignore some pain? Not enough speed..err..action points? No problem for your needs, there are remedies!

Just, so you know, there are are drawbacks. Some stats go down but…in expense for others, so better plan ahead. And be careful - there can be subtle side effects…

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Kamaz May 23rd, 2020 18:15

https://i.ibb.co/27Ys28S/old-shuttle-on-Kurbads.png

Fortunate are those space wreck dweller communities that have old, tiny, banged up and leaking but still running shuttlecrafts. It grants precious freedom to scavenge, trade and migrate in Junkspace.

Kamaz May 30th, 2020 13:20

Apparently I came to the wrong neighborhood :/

https://i.ibb.co/hMgSPR6/SW-wrong-neighbourhood.gif

Kamaz June 6th, 2020 22:46

Like in tabletop RPG, skill checks are dice rolls and can go either way, affected by both your character build and luck. To accentuate this important part of the game play, we've added a prominent animation -

https://i.ibb.co/f0Nbfsz/SW-scitec-dice-roll-flat.gif

Initially I was shy to shove these under-the-hood mechanics in player's face but then I saw how Larian is doing just that in their Baldurs Gate 3 and decided to not hold back myself. I like dice rolling in RPGs, because
  • it demonstrates that there are multiple options available
  • it adds suspense and thrill to the skill checks
  • it helps to understand math behind it and feel the risk and see how better stats help.

One another thing - these skill checks can be fairly important. Like in this example success and fail lead to self-excluding quests and, potentially, diverging plot. Idea being that FAILURE is just as cool RPG experience as SUCCESS and you should accept it as just different, interesting twist to the story.

P.S. I understand that not everyone wants this level of meta gaming in their RPG, so there's a toggle in settings, to switch it off, along with skill tags in dialog choices (`[CHARM] Wanna talk about it?`)

Kamaz June 13th, 2020 18:47

https://i.ibb.co/Q8Jtkzb/minebot.gif
Minebots - actually space mining equipment, are used to work extracted and processed space ore. Even though these machines float in microgravity, they posses surprisingly large mass and are propelled by small rocket engines. That is why ordinarily human personnel is not allowed to work alongside the minebots - it is just too dangerous.

Kamaz June 28th, 2020 12:48

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If you want to get rid of a character or need an item it is holding, murder is not the only option. For example, while he's not looking, you can spike his drink with sleeping pills

Kamaz July 4th, 2020 17:30

I am working on quests, so there's not much to show of that. However, here's small visual update to one of the maps:

https://i.ibb.co/FnqDFyk/SW-Kurbads-…ects-front.gif

Asteroid ore hauling rockship showing heavy damage to the bow. Tiny speckle in the middle there is you.


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