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Arma November 17th, 2006 16:45

I read Thud! last year. The only nice thing to say about it is that it made me see some good thins in Night Watch, the previous one in the series. A huge let down, there is absolutely no character advancement, no new memorable characters, and Sally is the blandest vampire in the entire series. The entire books lacks the usual Pratchet style humour, and I only remember only one joke from the entire tome!

I began Steven Brust's Vlad Taltos books. So far the series looks pretty stable, but I am only 3 books into it.

Lintra November 17th, 2006 18:57

I like Brust's stuff some of it is really good - but there is a book (or two) during which the author was going through a divorce and it was reflected in his writing and *man* oh man, was it *ever* depressing.

While Thud! didn't really introduce any new characters and will is not in my top 10 Disc World books, I enjoyed the visit with my favorite characters … and I *like* Sam Vines as a dad. Very endearing.

I think Prachett has solved too many of Ahnk-Morpork's problems by now … and now has to hunt around for issues. I would like to see a return of Rincewind before he retires the series.

MonGoliat November 23rd, 2006 00:10

I Like "Harry Potter"… Cant help it!

but now im reading (dont laugh) "Men are from Mars, Woman ar from Venus: Dating edition".
A friend of mine said I needed it! =p I think shes right! =D

Lintra November 27th, 2006 19:22

Started "The Fall of the Roman Empire" by Peter Heather. Very good read … not *too* arcane. The author has packed the book full of bad puns and word play … eg: "Thrace: The Final Frontier" is a section of chapter.

A very interesting hypothisis so far … lets see where he goes with it. More on this as it unwinds.

Alrik Fassbauer November 27th, 2006 23:13

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Originally Posted by MonGoliat (Post 9436)
but now im reading (dont laugh) "Men are from Mars, Woman ar from Venus: Dating edition".
A friend of mine said I needed it! =p I think shes right! =D

Sounds like a good book … I have the "regular version" of it.

My last book was Thud!, but now I'm reading "Healing Aloneness : Finding Love and Wholeness through your inner Child" , this one.

For me, it's actually a good book and came to me to the right time.

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Originally Posted by Lintra (Post 8494)
I would like to see a return of Rincewind before he retires the series.

Me too. I miss him.

I would be especially interesting in how he would develop - as a character. From the just weird "wizzard" towards a more serious man.

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Originally Posted by Arma (Post 8445)
The entire books lacks the usual Pratchet style humour, and I only remember only one joke from the entire tome!

No; to me, this is essentially how Pratchett's books become through the years. They are no more really funny, but serious. And therefore interesting. At least for me.

I sure do miss the fun of the older books, but to me it's a shifting of an artist's work … Like Picasso had his "phases".

I believe it is an illusion to think of Mr. Pratchett writing only "funny" books, and only being able to do so.
He has proved otherwise, can be deadly serious, but with a twist. What he offers is is no more a simple fun-game or parody odf the fantasy genre, but instead kind of a mirror of our own lives.

I heavily noticed this shift as I read a book by Piers Anthony this summer, named "Night Mare". His style is imho rather nearer towards early Mr. Pratchett's works.

Corwin November 28th, 2006 02:44

Anthony tends to be inconsistent, and Nightmare is a fairly old book!!

Alrik Fassbauer November 30th, 2006 15:33

Yes, but I bought it only a few months ago ! I didn't even know he existed up to that point ! :D

The Wanderer December 23rd, 2006 06:36

Napoleon Hill : How to think and grow rich.

Prime Junta December 28th, 2006 19:36

Christmas vacation, time to read. "Freakonomics" by Steven Levitt and Stephen Dubner, "Shadows over Baker Street" by a bunch of different authors (Sherlock Holmes meets the Cthulhu mythos), and a book on Pompeii next up.

Dez December 28th, 2006 21:29

Adrian Goldsworthy - In the Name of Rome

Corwin December 29th, 2006 02:21

Wheel of Time Book 11, finally!!

Jaz December 29th, 2006 07:36

Just finished Terry Pratchett's 'Thud!'.

Arma December 31st, 2006 02:47

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Originally Posted by Corwin (Post 14164)
Wheel of Time Book 11, finally!!

My deepest condolences. A huge letdown for me, as I've said a number of times. To Jaz, also for Thud! for all the reasons above. Nommater what people say about Pratchet moving from funny into more serious business, Thud! is not an example of that. Monstrous Regiment, however, is. Going Postal is an example of the opposite - manages to be both funny and bring us one of the darkest Discworld novels.

Right now I've picked up Gardens of the Moon : A Tale of Malazan Book of the Fallen Book 1 by Steven Erikson. An excellent book (and series from what I hear so far), and though it's been a while since I read the last multi-huge-volume fantasy series the first several chapters are all confusing for all the new names of characters and locations and so on, I quite like what I read. I extremely recommend it to anyone read particularly WoT 11 and having a bad taste in his mouth :)

Jaz December 31st, 2006 10:31

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Originally Posted by Arma (Post 14292)
My deepest condolences. A huge letdown for me, as I've said a number of times. To Jaz, also for Thud! for all the reasons above. Nommater what people say about Pratchet moving from funny into more serious business, Thud! is not an example of that. Monstrous Regiment, however, is. Going Postal is an example of the opposite - manages to be both funny and bring us one of the darkest Discworld novels.

I liked it. I liked it even better then some other Pratchett novels (like, for example, those with the witches, or Rincewind).

Prime Junta December 31st, 2006 10:44

Going Postal was excellent, as was Monstrous Regiment. Haven't read Thud! and by the sound of it, I won't. I liked The Truth well enough too.

Finished that book on Pompeii, though. Next up: American Mania by Peter Whybrow.

GothicGothicness January 1st, 2007 13:26

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Wheel of Time Book 11, finally!!
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My deepest condolences. A huge letdown for me, as I've said a number of times.
Why? This was one of the best book in the series IMHO! I can finally see everything coming togheter… and how brilliantly everything was planned from the start!!! I can't understand why people pick on this book…… the main complaint I heard from many people was that nothing moved forward. This book was the largest step forward in the entire series!

Arma January 1st, 2007 21:14

What exactly do you find moving forward? Everything in the series is a kind of stand-still since books 5-6. Stuff happened, but who cares? Nothing has advanced greatly, Rand has turned from a major character into a third rate bystander since Bobby and Hariet like to write about bath taking, dress making, dinner eating, tea sipping, and the like. With so many meaningless sub-plots Bobby definately has major trouble up his sleeve to wrap them all up in a single book nommatet how long.

Prime Junta January 1st, 2007 22:38

Finished American Mania. Good read, but the weird thing was that whenever the author was writing about anything I do know about, I caught him in pretty egregious factual errors, and the most interesting stuff was in things I don't know jack about -- which is a shame, since I can't really believe a word of what he says without cross-checking. Meh.

Out of books I haven't read already, except a few that I don't even want to. Crap. Perhaps it's time to get back to NWN2…

GothicGothicness January 2nd, 2007 13:18

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What exactly do you find moving forward?
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Everything did! It is setup for the last battle!

**BIG SPOILER WARNING**
It is obvious how Matt and Tuon will get married and make an alliance, the forces will join. The old and the new tower will be reunited, so they can battle togheter under Egwene. The black tower is becoming battle ready. The grasp of the dark one is becoming stronger and stronger…. just think when you read the book it is full of signs how the last battle is drawing near and how everything will come togheter….. however if you don't like to think I can understand if this book didn't do it for you :P

txa1265 January 2nd, 2007 14:08

Just finished re-reading Douglas Adam's "Restaurant at the End of the Universe" and am getting into re-reading "Life, the Universe and Everything". (BN was having a mega-special on their 'collectible' editions a month or so ago and I got the leatherbound edition for *really* cheap.

Krzychu January 2nd, 2007 15:34

War of the Spider Queen Book V: Annihilation - Philip Athans

I just can't get through this. I got to the middle at my usual speed and after that I've been reading just a few pages once in a while. Something is wrong with this part, I don't know what, but it makes me stop reading. Book VI is lying on a shelf next to my bed, waiting to be read, but I can't start reading it until I finish the previous one.

Kawika January 3rd, 2007 00:53

I'm currently reading Magic Time by Marc Scott Zicree and Barbara Hambly. It's a thoroughly enjoyable piece of fiction and the inspiration for a novella I'm writing myself called Soul Evolution. :)

magerette January 15th, 2007 09:39

Is that an SF title, Kawika? I'd like to see Barbara Hambly get back into her sf-fantasy books, though her New Orleans post-Civil War mysteries aren't bad. (Good luck on your own opus, as well.)

I'm reading The Last Kingdom, by Bernard Cornwell--and just finished a well written but [depressing biography of Janis Joplin -well, go figure--called Scars of Sweet Paradise.

xSamhainx January 16th, 2007 10:11

The Will to Power

Ive always wanted to sit down and just read a book by ol' Fred, but have never gotten around to it till now. Seen many quotes, but now I'm into the real meat and potatos so to speak of Nietzche. It's interesting, I'll say that much.

As with most philosophy that I have read however, I always come away from it feeling like Im just reading the ramblings of somebody with far too much time on thier hands!

Corwin January 16th, 2007 12:25

Having lectured in Philosophy in my past, I sympathise, but it sure can produce some great arguments!! :)

txa1265 January 16th, 2007 13:44

Hehe … that is why for my existential fix I prefer to read the fiction of Sartre of Camus - get much of the philosophy and some really good story-telling as well. I re-read 'The Stranger' last summer.

Corwin January 16th, 2007 14:57

Sartre tends to contradict himself too much; I did a major analysis of some of his work when I was in University many years ago. People like Beckett are much more fun!! :)

txa1265 January 16th, 2007 15:23

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Originally Posted by Corwin (Post 15804)
Sartre tends to contradict himself too much; I did a major analysis of some of his work when I was in University many years ago. People like Beckett are much more fun!! :)

People spin that as 'evolution of concepts' … good stories, though ;)

Zaleukos January 16th, 2007 15:41

I'm reading Sebag Montefiores biography of Prince Potemkin and Catherine the Great. Fun stuff but as with all history books it can get a bit annoying with extensive quotation of primary sources (in this case rather silly love letters between the two). After that I'll go into some -68 commie propaganda by Swedens chief unreformed Stalinist (Jan Myrdal), which will be an interesting study in that time period…

crpgnut January 16th, 2007 16:39

I just finished Robin Hobb's second series about FitzChivalry Farseer. The books are Fool's Errand, Golden Fool, and Fool's Fate. The series is quite slow moving and she seems to get stuck rambling sometimes. It was average.

dteowner January 16th, 2007 17:33

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Originally Posted by crpgnut (Post 15821)
I just finished Robin Hobb's second series about FitzChivalry Farseer.

Just started "Ship of Magic" myself, although I'm barely reading recently so my progress is slooooow. Enjoyed Robin's first series a long time back, so I finally got around to getting the second. We'll see how it holds up.

txa1265 January 16th, 2007 17:36

My kids both read 'Bridge to Tarabithia' (upcoming movie) within the space of the day yesterday (MLK day off) … and we're doing a 'family ready' on the Deltora Quest series … it is nice that we can still do that on rare occasion.

curious January 16th, 2007 18:11

bridge to tarabithia-i remember reading that book in either grade school or middle school. it had a profound effect on me and my imagination/emotions. we got to see the 'made for tv' movie of it afterwards that i believe came out around the same time…

Corwin January 17th, 2007 01:03

After reading Hobbs first 2 series, I decided not to bother with any more!! Average is the best they deserve!! Perhaps she's trying to emulate Jordan!! :)

GothicGothicness January 19th, 2007 12:09

I also read the first two by hobb…. she can't even come up with names in her first series LOL. There is some interesting parts though. But of course it cannot even be compared to master Jordan.

crpgnut January 19th, 2007 18:52

Jordan is terrible. He had a wonderful 5 book tale that he's stretching to infinity just to make money. Nynaeve tugs on her braid at least 2000 times. None of his male characters act like males. It's pathetic. If Reader's Digest ever does an abridged version, I'll read that.

GG, I wasn't sure if you were calling Jordan a master of blah blah or if you really mean you think he is a masterful storyteller. I hope the former :D The first 3 books were pretty good then the series went straight to hell.

magerette January 19th, 2007 19:10

I agree on Jordan--I read up to number 7 or so and then finally realized he was never going to explain or resolve any of the plot twists in 1,2,3 etc. --ended up giving them to the local library. The Aes Sedai were a great creation, but I'm too old to try to remember 18 new characters in each book.;)

Just started Guy Gavriel Kay's new one 'The Last Light of the Sun'--it's a bit melodramatic occasionally, but I have hopes it will improve.

dteowner January 19th, 2007 19:37

I must be the only one left that still likes Jordan. Sure, he's a bit windy, but it's going to take a few pages to maintain 75 different plot lines and a couple thousand named characters. I'm not buying that there's only one book left, though. Unless the thing is 3000 pages long, he's got too many loose ends to clean up.

Dez January 19th, 2007 19:53

Jordan's problem is that most of his characters are one dimensional whiners and it seems that series is going nowhere. I quess his slogan is quantity over quality.

Arma January 19th, 2007 21:30

More like a 180 new characters per book, all of them more meaningless than the previous and non-distunguishable names (there seems to be like a dozen Aes Sedai with names starting with the letter M, for example). The problem with Jordan is, he cannot possibly complete all the plots he created in a meaningful way. Also there is too much bath taking, tea sipping, dress making and similar stuff that only make up page count. This stuff is so much, it makes the latest Wheel of Time volumes seem like a parody on itself.

One of the things that I liked in Gardens of the Moon by Steven Erikson is the compact style of writing - there are non of Jordan's (more probably his wife Hariet's, but this is another story) non-sence writings.

Lately, I've started A Song of Fire and Ice by George Martin. While it was some good in the beginning (but certainly nothing spectacular) it quickly decended to Jordanism - far too many plots, far too many characters, and more than enough royal balls, dress making, dinner making and eating. And far too few characters that I care about. On the third book I grew entirely tired the hell out of this series for the time being.


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