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JDR13 July 17th, 2021 22:03

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Originally Posted by crpgnut (Post 1061648340)
Without modding, my hours played would be in the 200-300 range, not 2000+ :D

Without modding, I don't think I'd last more than 30-40 hours in most of their games. The only exception was Morrowind, but that's because I played it back before the mod scene exploded. There's no way I could play it now without mods.

crpgnut July 17th, 2021 23:47

Yeah, I just can't help myself now. I know I modded Fallout 4 before finishing it because, like many, I hated the daddy/mommy story.

Couchpotato July 17th, 2021 23:51

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Originally Posted by crpgnut (Post 1061648355)
Yeah, I just can't help myself now. I know I modded Fallout 4 before finishing it because, like many, I hated the daddy/mommy story.

You just have an aversion to story in RPGs. Just admit it.:lol:

Still yeah without mods I don't think I would ever finish a Bethesda game. They know that as well and that's why the engine hasn't deviated that far from the original.

Now if it was EA they wouldn't care. They hate modding.

crpgnut July 18th, 2021 01:22

I like Vilja's story somewhat; though it was silly. I really like Inigo's story too. I enjoyed the bits with Serana also, but dawn guard was mostly a miss. I liked the old werewolf's story, but not the companions as a whole. I thought Bethesda struck out by cutting all that stuff too short. The restored Civil War mod was decent. Beth should have left it in the game and fleshed it out more.

Bethesda should hire a real writer; preferably someone who is a master of world lore. Rowling/Modesitt/etc. not any of the gaming dudes like Cain/Gaider/Avellonely.

Ooh, best game writing. The baron's story in W3. That was really good…in a mean drunken bastard kind of way.

JFarrell71 July 18th, 2021 02:11

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Originally Posted by crpgnut (Post 1061648366)
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Bethesda should hire a real writer; preferably someone who is a master of world lore. Rowling/Modesitt/etc. not any of the gaming dudes like Cain/Gaider/Avellonely.

They did, once upon a time: Ken Rolston.

They've chosen to go another direction since (building shit and shooting guns)

Couchpotato July 18th, 2021 02:18

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Originally Posted by JFarrell71 (Post 1061648378)
They did, once upon a time: Ken Rolston.

They've chosen to go another direction since (building shit and shooting guns)

Wasn't he working on a new RPG like Morrowind. As I seem to recall he mentioned that in interviews & news-bits, but never shared any concrete details about that game.

As for writing in Bethesda games that area was always the weakest.:nod:

JDR13 July 18th, 2021 19:05

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Originally Posted by crpgnut (Post 1061648366)
Bethesda should hire a real writer; preferably someone who is a master of world lore. Rowling/Modesitt/etc. not any of the gaming dudes like Cain/Gaider/Avellonely.

I think Bethesda already does a pretty good job when it comes to lore. It's the quests and characters where their writing is weak.

HiddenX July 18th, 2021 19:29

I simply don't care about Elder Scrolls VI anymore. I can't take a company seriously that doesn't develop its major brand for 10 years.

So wake me up when it's finished.

Couchpotato July 18th, 2021 19:33

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Originally Posted by HiddenX (Post 1061648446)
I simply don't care about Elder Scrolls VI anymore. I can't take a company seriously that doesn't develop its major brand for 10 years.

So wake me up when it's finished.

Well in their defense they are working on multiple games not just Elder Scrolls. I'm happy they want to try new IPs instead of making the same game every 6-10 years.:)

JFarrell71 July 18th, 2021 19:54

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Originally Posted by Couchpotato (Post 1061648447)
Well in their defense they are working on multiple games not just Elder Scrolls. I'm happy they want to try new IPs instead of making the same game every 6-10 years.:)

If only that was what they've been doing. I don't count Elder Scroll Lootbox Mobile Extravaganza or whatever as a new IP. All they do is Fallout and Elder Scrolls, and I also think it's lame that they're going to let 10-12 years go by in between Elder Scrolls games.

Couchpotato July 18th, 2021 19:57

Starfield put a wrench in those plans. :)

It's their first new IP in many years. If it wasn't for that game which took most of their resources, I'm sure Elder Scrolls 6 would off been out by now otherwise.

I don't need to post the info again but it took a collaboration of four studios. Also don't forget that Fallout 76 and Elder Scrolls Online are still getting new expansions/content.

So yeah they are busy. Just not making single-player Fallout or Elder Scroll games.

Carnifex July 18th, 2021 21:43

HiddenX summed up my feelings entirely for this sadly storied franchise. The fork was shoved in years ago.

Couchpotato July 18th, 2021 23:08

Yeah I don't blame you both but Bethesda has shifted priorities. As for me I want another Fallout but I don't expect another till 2030 at best. Hope I live a long life.

Anyway yeah I'm surprised Microsoft didn't pressure them more for Elder Scrolls 6.

Carnifex July 18th, 2021 23:24

Oh man, after the deplorable Fallout four and then that ridiculous online abomination, that's a franchise that is a franchise that has literally ceased to exist for me. I cringe at the mere thought of another Fallout, unless it was done by an entirely new company with many new folk at the helm. And even then I'd be seriously worried.

And I say this as someone that adored the first two games, loved tactics, and accepted the third for what it was. After that, it went off the cliff, and continued to fall right off the damn planet, into oblivion.

JDR13 July 18th, 2021 23:29

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Originally Posted by HiddenX (Post 1061648446)
I simply don't care about Elder Scrolls VI anymore. I can't take a company seriously that doesn't develop its major brand for 10 years.

So wake me up when it's finished.

I'm more interested in Fallout than TES tbh, but yeah, it's the same thing there. Fallout 4 is already 6 years old now, and they haven't even announced the next single-player FO game yet.

crpgnut July 19th, 2021 04:09

Well, I'm in that boat too. I really don't care about Bethesda except as a vessel for TES. Even the Fallout franchise is of only moderate interest to me. That's mostly because I vastly prefer fantasy to sc-fi or post apoc.

Most of my pro-Bethesda spiel is to rile folks up ;)

ilm July 20th, 2021 00:39

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Originally Posted by crpgnut (Post 1061648366)
Ooh, best game writing. The baron's story in W3. That was really good…in a mean drunken bastard kind of way.

Was it really the story, or more the presentation that made it good? It is hard to distinguish sometimes, at least for me.

Many modern games I consider quite bland with an uninteresting story, but I think in reality it is just the presentation being lackluster (+ being drowned in openworld content). I'm fine with a run-off-the-mill story but give it some attitude and a coherent creative execution.

crpgnut July 20th, 2021 22:36

@ilm Yeah, I don't separate presentation and story in my mind. I take it as a whole. How did it make me feel? I don't really cogitate on it more than that. I spare that type of thinking for much more important things in life. Movies/games/sports/etc. and other leisure activities only get surface attention. I only have 2K of ram in my brain and it gets flashed when I sleep :biggrin:

Morrandir July 20th, 2021 23:50

Also brain lag.

rune_74 July 21st, 2021 02:04

People say they have to be modded etc…but I think if they could spend an infinite time making the game they would have most mod things in there or at least something similar.

I think providing the tools to allow a robust modding community allows the games to live a lot longer and have newer tech added as it goes.


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