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purpleblob November 21st, 2018 22:46

Hmmm, so question. Should I make my main character pure empyreal sorcerer instead of multi classing into cleric and mystic theurge?

@ChatMiauleur you don't have to travel with companions all the time unless you plan to romance someone. However, I finished the whole game with default companions, and didn't have any issues on normal difficulty. I enjoyed having them around for a chat and also for special camping abilities :)

My party was:
MC: half elf crusader (cleric), secondary tank/dps/buff&heal support
Valerie: Fighter/Stalwart Defender, main tank
Amiri: Barbarian, melee dps (had to switch her around at times with Jubilost: Alchemist is pretty awesome)
Ekundayo: Ranger (his dog is really cool!), ranged dps
Octavia: Thief/Mage, ranged dps
Tristian: Cleric, buff/healbot

TheRealFluent November 22nd, 2018 00:10

@purpleblob, I personally think multiclassing is more fun, but it's really your choice. Can't go wrong with the Prestige classes. :)

Well I guess I'll share my party right now in Chapter 5, level 12.

PC: Asirius, 5 Archaeologist/4 Rogue/3 Dragon Disciple
Valerie, 8 Tower Shield Specialist/4 Stalwart Defender
Amiri, 9 Barbarian/3 Two Handed Fighter
Nok-Nok, 12 Knife Master
Harrim, 6 Cleric/6 Sacred Huntsmaster (Inquisitor)
Octavia, 2 Rogue/4 Wizard/6 Arcane Trickster
Marty, Harrim's pet companion Mastadon :P

But I'm starting to try and mix companions in and out a bit more. I like Jaethal who's also 10 Inquisitor/2 Two Handed Fighter, so I'll switch her with Amiri here and there. I'd like to use Harrim less and try maybe Ekun (who I'm thinking of making into a Paladin of Torag) or Linzi, Jubilost, etc.. So many fun ways to build your party you can come up with all sorts of interesting combinations. :)

TheRealFluent November 22nd, 2018 02:17

Hey, can I ask a spoiler-ish question about Act 5 but get a non-spoiler answer? :)

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Thank ye in advance! :)

purpleblob November 22nd, 2018 02:23

Fluent, please head straight to the tomb. I want to know what happens then.

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TheRealFluent November 22nd, 2018 02:32

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Originally Posted by purpleblob (Post 1061542077)
Fluent, please head straight to the tomb. I want to know what happens then.

Will do! I got extremely lucky to find the location - was just
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TheRealFluent November 22nd, 2018 05:17

Wow @purpleblob, you won't believe what happened!

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Just…ugh. Keep me posted if you find out anything about this please. :bigcry:

purpleblob November 22nd, 2018 05:37

LOL I had that bug too.

@TheRealFluent

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Bit disappointed though, doesn't seem like there's anything really different to getting there on time or late. Meh :P

TheRealFluent November 22nd, 2018 05:47

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Originally Posted by purpleblob (Post 1061542092)
LOL I had that bug too.

@TheRealFluent

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Bit disappointed though, doesn't seem like there's anything really different to getting there on time or late. Meh :P

Are you sure there's nothing different later in the game maybe? Seems weird, the word "soul" was lit up in dialogue and said because I made it there quickly, I did good essentially. Weird.

Anyway, I fixed it by restarting my PC and quicksaving during dialogue with him. Then at the end of dialogue immediately quicksaved, paused and had my party run to the other side of the room. All is good now. Whew, that was scary, lol. :sweatdrop::anxious:

purpleblob November 22nd, 2018 05:54

This is what happened in my run:
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TheRealFluent November 22nd, 2018 06:00

I'll post a screenshot in a second here.

TheRealFluent November 22nd, 2018 06:03

This is what it said in dialogue.



Maybe you being able to
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was a bug? LOL :biggrin:

purpleblob November 22nd, 2018 06:08

LOL I think I had the same dialogue…. yep, a bit disappointing. I suppose, the game is designed so that most of us get there late, and it's intended we get same dialogue regardless. If you discover the place early, you just save on some time maybe?

TheRealFluent November 22nd, 2018 06:09

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Originally Posted by purpleblob (Post 1061542099)
LOL I think I had the same dialogue…. yep, a bit disappointing. I suppose, the game is designed so that most of us get there late, and it's intended we get same dialogue regardless. If you discover the place early, you just save on some time maybe?

Are you sure you got there late, though? How do you know you missed the timer?

purpleblob November 22nd, 2018 06:10

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Originally Posted by TheRealFluent (Post 1061542101)
Are you sure you got there late, though? How do you know you missed the timer?

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@TheRealFluent: Made a small edit in spoiler tag, in case you missed :P

TheRealFluent November 22nd, 2018 06:12

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Originally Posted by purpleblob (Post 1061542102)
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That's crazy. That's got to be a bug then, but you're the one who got it, lol. Disappointing indeed. Ah well. Onward back to the capital! (with a bloody hand :P)

TheRealFluent November 22nd, 2018 06:15

Ah, just saw your edit. Not sure really, but it seems like it's working as it should, it just gives you a lot of time, and the quest log was bugged.

purpleblob November 22nd, 2018 06:17

I think what happened in my second run *could* be a bug, but hey, I'm not complaining lol. I will pay more attention to it in my third run.

TheRealFluent November 22nd, 2018 06:18

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Originally Posted by purpleblob (Post 1061542105)
I think what happened in my second run *could* be a bug, but hey, I'm not complaining lol. I will pay more attention to it in my third run.

Haha, yeah, something weird is going on there. :P But at least we know there are actually different outcomes there, and you saw them both.

TheRealFluent November 22nd, 2018 06:42

@purpleblob, What questions did you try at the Inconsequent Debates? I'm wondering what they say when you ask
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Just curious if there's anything else hidden in that event.

purpleblob November 22nd, 2018 06:48

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Originally Posted by TheRealFluent (Post 1061542107)
@purpleblob, What questions did you try at the Inconsequent Debates? I'm wondering what they say when you ask
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Just curious if there's anything else hidden in that event.

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TheRealFluent November 22nd, 2018 06:51

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Originally Posted by purpleblob (Post 1061542109)
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Oh cool. :) Yeah I asked the question you're talking about, but I meant for the second question you get. Interesting stuff. I wonder what your second question's answer means…

purpleblob November 22nd, 2018 06:53

Can't spoil it for you here ;) You will eventually find out (or at least have an inkling soon).

TheRealFluent November 22nd, 2018 07:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by purpleblob (Post 1061542111)
Can't spoil it for you here ;) You will eventually find out (or at least have an inkling soon).

OH wow, this game is amazing, haha.

TheRealFluent November 22nd, 2018 07:04

Here's another performance tip: If the game gets a bit laggy due to possible memory leak (as I said before you could restart your PC), you could also improve performance by deleting all the old autosaves and quicksaves. I can run the game now for long sessions without it getting laggy once I did that. Just keep your main save file and a quicksave to be safe, delete the rest and start making new ones. Game hasn't got sluggish at all since I did that.

purpleblob November 22nd, 2018 07:04

Some kind soul posted most of food recipes, DC, and bonus info. I think the list is missing a few dishes still, I remember there was one that involves spider which is Nok-Nok's favourite.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder_…oking_recipes/

Adding three recipes missing from the list above:

Baked Spider Legs: DC 23, +3 fort save bonus for a day, ingredients are flour, vegetable and giant spider legs, Nok-Nok's favourite, +5 bonus to Stealth checks


Broiled Tuskwater Oysters: DC 24, +1 bonus to all spell DCs, ingredients are butter, soft cheese and tuskwater oysters, unsure who's favourite meal this is.


Whiterose Oysters: DC 33, +4 bonus for all concentration checks and caster level checks for a day + spell DC +2 for a day (crazy stuff!), ingridients are rice, soft cheese, tuskwater oysters, and "white rose" chardonnay (which I was missing, so never been able to cook it)

TheRealFluent November 22nd, 2018 07:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by purpleblob (Post 1061542114)
Some kind soul posted most of food recipes, DC, and bonus info. I think the list is missing a few dishes still, I remember there was one that involves spider which is Nok-Nok's favourite.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder_…oking_recipes/

Adding three recipes missing from the list above:

Baked Spider Legs: DC 23, +3 fort save bonus for a day, ingredients are flour, vegetable and giant spider legs, Nok-Nok's favourite, +5 bonus to Stealth checks


Broiled Tuskwater Oysters: DC 24, +1 bonus to all spell DCs, ingredients are butter, soft cheese and tuskwater oysters, unsure who's favourite meal this is.


Whiterose Oysters: DC 33, +4 bonus for all concentration checks and caster level checks for a day + spell DC +2 for a day (crazy stuff!), ingridients are rice, soft cheese, tuskwater oysters, and "white rose" chardonnay (which I was missing, so never been able to cook it)

Wow, epic stuff. But I wish the game had who's favorite dish it is in the game so you could easily see it. Didn't even know these dishes did half those things, like Galt Ragout decreasing Valerie's penalty for fighting defensively, etc..

Maylander November 22nd, 2018 11:45

Regarding the tomb you recently discussed: As I pointed out previously, this is the one event I know I missed the timer on. I did not get the "blood brother" option, so there is a difference. It was probably just a bug for you, @purpleblob. :)

purpleblob November 22nd, 2018 12:07

Yeah, sounds about right. Well, I got lucky with the bug :D

My hubby just got to debate part and asked about best pet name.

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TheRealFluent November 22nd, 2018 22:30

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Originally Posted by purpleblob (Post 1061542124)
Yeah, sounds about right. Well, I got lucky with the bug :D

My hubby just got to debate part and asked about best pet name.

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That's awesome, lol.

I just
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Just want to slow down a bit on the game until the 6th so I can still get the new companion. Can I ask how long it generally takes (non-spoilerific please) for Chapter 6 to start? I've also finished Chapter 5, right?

purpleblob November 23rd, 2018 00:26

Chapter 5 doesn't start till you get an invitation from King Ivoretti to compete in Rushlight tournament. So, no, I think you aren't in chapter 5 yet. You will get some annoying thing to deal with via Kingdom system soon to keep you busy.

TheRealFluent November 23rd, 2018 01:06

Thanks blobby. :) I'm going to play slooowwwly so I don't outpace and accidentally finish Ch. 5 before the 6th. :D

purpleblob November 23rd, 2018 03:38

@TheRealFluent

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Also please let me know if I'm spoiling a bit too much for you :P

And yes, the coronation was so nice. I think I even teared up a little, heh.

TheRealFluent November 23rd, 2018 03:43

I almost teared up too, sheesh lol. Funny how games can do that sometimes. And nah, you're good, thanks for the info. I'll muck about with some kingdom stuff (got tons of new region upgrades, capital looks like a REAL CITY (!!) and lots of new stuff to play with. Might try to finish some maps I haven't cleared yet too, especially in Glenebon.

TheRealFluent November 23rd, 2018 04:33

Funny thing @purpleblob,
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TheRealFluent November 23rd, 2018 07:54

Not sure if this is a helpful tip to anyone, but for weapon proficiency I selected them by this method.

First, with Amiri, when I found the Flaming Glaive +2 with a 6 ft. reach I knew it would be a weapon I'd use for a long time (and have, Ch. 5 now and have had it since Ch. 2 :) ), so I took proficiency in it knowing A) it was great now and still will be good later, and B) I'll probably find another good one down the line.

But with my main character Asirius, I waited until level 13 to pick a proficiency, finally settling on Dueling Sword because I found a quality +3 one and expect to find another one later.

Valerie I picked in the middle because of the Mallet of Woe (+3 Heavy Mace). I figured it was +3 and had a good chance to also be using it long term (which is true, still using it in Ch. 5).

Jaethal I picked late because I wasn't sure, but because I found a Keen Elven Curve Blade and she already had proficiency with Elven weapons being Elven herself, I went with that. It's also worked well as I just picked up an awesome new one in Ch. 5. :)

So Amiri's was picked early, Valerie pretty early too and Asirius and Jaethal picked late, but it's worked well for me so far. If you find a really exquisite weapon and it feels right to use for that character, I'd use that as a good time to get a proficiency in it. Chances are between Proficiency/Focus/Specialization/Critical Focus/Improved Critical/finding a better version of that weapon class later, it's a good bet IMO.

purpleblob November 23rd, 2018 08:55

I'm under an order from my hubby to take break from Kingmaker lol. And I'm procrastinating while I should be working on a review. I will focus on it when I'm back from my holiday though :D

TheRealFluent November 23rd, 2018 08:59

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Originally Posted by purpleblob (Post 1061542367)
I'm under an order from my hubby to take break from Kingmaker lol. And I'm procrastinating while I should be working on a review. I will focus on it when I'm back from my holiday though :D

I have to stop too, lol. Just waiting on Dec. 6 to come. So far away. :(

TheRealFluent November 25th, 2018 23:47

Anyone have any idea how the Varnhold DLC will work? Is Chapter 5 going to be too late to do it? I'm confused. And will it feature your own party or a party of Maegar Varn and his companions? I hope Chapter 5 isn't too late and you can still play through it for extra background story. Looks like I'll be starting a new run of the game come April it seems, to get all the DLC in the game at once.

purpleblob November 25th, 2018 23:54

No idea how it will work at this point. I'd say just start a new run for Varnhold but keep your current run for the tiefling companion :)

TheRealFluent November 26th, 2018 00:00

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Originally Posted by purpleblob (Post 1061542828)
No idea how it will work at this point. I'd say just start a new run for Varnhold but keep your current run for the tiefling companion :)

That's probably what I'll do then. Come April when all 3 DLC are out I'll start a new playthrough as a Tiefling maybe, but a new playthrough for sure. Maybe even try an evil run though I'm always a goody goody in RPGs and evil playthroughs are hard for me. :D


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