RPGWatch Forums
Page 1 of 2 1 2

RPGWatch Forums (https://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/index.php)
-   News Comments (https://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=10)
-   -   Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order - Gameplay Video (https://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43015)

Silver June 8th, 2019 23:16

Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order - Gameplay Video
 
A gameplay video for Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order.

Quote:

loading…


The Empire won't stop until every Jedi is purged from the galaxy. As a young Padawan on the run, the odds are against you--but the Force is with you. Discover the Jedi abilities you must master to survive.

Become a Jedi on November 15, 2019.

More information.

Ripper June 8th, 2019 23:24

In fairness, I'd play that. Looks quite a lot like a modern Jedi Outcast, which would be alright with me.

JDR13 June 8th, 2019 23:29

Looks decent enough, but I'm not sure how I feel about the third-person view. I was hoping for first-person that switched to third-person for melee like the Jedi Knight games did.

I also hope the entire game isn't just melee with a lightsaber. I didn't see any ranged combat other than throwing the lightsaber.

Stingray June 8th, 2019 23:52

3:25, the Stormtrooper has to verbally announce that he's "taking aim" before he's allowed to shoot? :lol: :lol: No wonder those guys always lose.

rune_74 June 9th, 2019 00:15

It reminds me of the last of us style…I want to play this, there I said this.

Philistine June 9th, 2019 00:49

Doesn't seem much like an RPG, more of a linear Action game. Also the the protagonist seems a bit aggressive for a jedi, unless maybe he falls to the darkside as part of the plot. Not too excited about this. Probably pick it up in about 10 years for a couple of bucks to sit in my back log.

joxer June 9th, 2019 02:01

Pros:
"may contain content inappropriate for children"

Cons:
- climb tooltip says LT and I have no idea wtf is that, a bug?
- platforming and loadcreens through claustrophobic squeezing = Tomb Raider ripoff
- nintendo gameboy hair
- skill point acquired… but where is the skilltree to use those? in my arse?
- no scanning of dead spider as it's yet another idiotic fastrun

Unless someone says there are boobs somewhere in it, I'm gonna skip this crap.

Stingray June 9th, 2019 02:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philistine (Post 1061571155)
Doesn't seem much like an RPG, more of a linear Action game. Also the the protagonist seems a bit aggressive for a jedi, unless maybe he falls to the darkside as part of the plot. Not too excited about this. Probably pick it up in about 10 years for a couple of bucks to sit in my back log.

I don't think anyone's even calling this game an RPG. And with the times we're living in these days, if no one's even trying to shoehorn the RPG label onto a game like this, then you can rest assured that it's about as far from an RPG as you can possibly get.

Dez June 9th, 2019 02:36

Insta buy for me. Obviously not the kotor 3, but that reminds me of Jedi outcast / Jedi Academy brought back to life! I'll be playing this when ever it is released. :)

Like JDR I'm curious thought whether this jedi even has a blaster pistol. And the level design seemed kind of linear. Then again I've been waiting so long to play a proper sw game and not the crap EA has been pushing last decade. So I'll take this with a smile.

txa1265 June 9th, 2019 05:26

Yeah - definitely an insta-buy for me as well … in spite of agreeing with all of the concerns, I would be quite happy playing even the level we just saw :)

Terry June 9th, 2019 06:05

Who's making this? Is the EA play stand for early access or Electronic Arts?
If Electronic Arts then a pass otherwise it looks interesting, like others have said here, there has been a serious lack of good starwars games of late.

sakichop June 9th, 2019 06:32

I was fully prepared to say this isn’t for me since I’m not really into sci-fi or star wars. However the combat has me intrigued so ill keep an eye on it and its a definite maybe. I’d probably play it with a controller so limited ranged options is ok with me.

Stingray June 9th, 2019 07:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry (Post 1061571173)
Who's making this? Is the EA play stand for early access or Electronic Arts?
If Electronic Arts then a pass otherwise it looks interesting, like others have said here, there has been a serious lack of good starwars games of late.

Electronic Arts. It's notable because people have been surprised that they're making a purely single player game.

vurt June 9th, 2019 09:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stingray (Post 1061571176)
Electronic Arts. It's notable because people have been surprised that they're making a purely single player game.

The game is made by Respawn. EA will publish it.

I'll probably buy this. From what i've read there's lots of mentioning of Dark Souls and Metroid Prime as being the inspiration, both really good games. I doubt its very similar to DS, it's probably more similar to how AssCreed took slight inspiration from DS..

They mention back-tracking (great, i really dislike games that doesn't have it). Upgrades (good, i didn't expect a RPG anyways and there are plenty of games which feels and plays like RPG's but they don't have skills trees).

Graphics is actually quite bad here, or "dated". Lighting is totally dead for example. But whatever, graphics isn't everything. I do wish Disney didn't have any say in this so it would be possible to cut of limbs, for example.

Clone Wars writers involved. Great, Clone Wars series was way better than any recent SW movie.

JDR13 June 9th, 2019 09:56

I think the graphics look fine. In fact I think it looks pretty good considering it's still in Alpha and that's the Xbox version they're showing.

Morrandir June 9th, 2019 09:58

I like lightsaber combat, so I'll most likely buy this one.

However I hope not the whole game will be linear like this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061571159)
- skill point acquired… but where is the skilltree to use those? in my arse?

I guess in this video they just wanted to show action gameplay and thus skipped the character building.
I'm sure we'll see something like a skill tree in the next weeks or months.

vurt June 9th, 2019 10:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061571182)
I think the graphics look fine. In fact I think it looks pretty good considering it's still in Alpha and that's the Xbox version they're showing.

Graphics doesn't tend to get better, only worse (plenty of examples of that, dark souls 2, far cry, Witcher 3 etc etc). It looks good enough but it does look dated. xbox is the most powerful console and its very similar to PC so i doubt there will be much difference in the PC version, a little better textures and AA perhaps. It looks "ok" apart from the dead lighting, same with the art / models.. it's not so bad that i wouldnt play it.

Copied from another site

GAMEPLAY:
  • In a way, the combat dance is reminiscent of From Software’s Souls games, but not in a punishing way. Respawn wants players to succeed, but not without a little effort. The Force is also used to augment combat, allowing the player to mess with enemies in satisfying, clever, and powerful ways.
  • When the saber is sheathed, Respawn’s vision for the adventure has classic gaming roots and is inspired heavily by the Metroid series, pushing players to freely explore worlds, and come back to them later with new powers that can be used to reach different areas. Never once do players see a waypoint on the screen telling them where their next objective is. Respawn doesn’t want to hold your hand, and instead hopes you plot your own path through dangerous worlds that are teeming with just as much hostile wildlife as heavily armed Imperial Forces.
  • With a lead in hand, Cal has BD-1 bring up the map of the region, which is displayed as a 3D hologram projected from one of the droid’s eyes. The game doesn’t pause at this point, so the player needs to be careful when using the map. A clear holographic display of the environment appears, complete with geographic and industrial elevations. The map colors in areas the player has been to, and also highlights points of interest in gold. The map is a critical component that helps players explore. Jedi: Fallen Order is one of the few games out there that doesn’t use a waypoint system.
  • Greez willfully transports this small group of characters to any planet at any time – both to progress the story and for freeform backtracking. We don’t know how many worlds there are yet, but the concept art and clips from the trailer hint at a good number of them. Asmussen says the ratio of established Star Wars planets and new planets original to Jedi: Fallen Order is about half and half. Each world houses a hub where the ship lands. Here, the player can return to rest up, save, apply skill points, and spark conversations with characters to learn more about them, the worlds, and overall story. The ship also offers other activities Respawn doesn’t want to reveal just yet.
  • When players choose a new destination, the flight is handled in real-time, meaning there won’t be any load screens, giving the player time to engage with the different activities on the ship. Along with Bracca, the quest to restore the Jedi Order takes Cal to Kashyyyk, the wookiee homeworld.
  • At this point in the game, the player has complete freedom to chart their own course through the wilderness. Some areas feature multiple paths that can freely be explored, while other areas may have paths that are blocked or inaccessible, perhaps requiring an unlearned Force power or gadget to open them up.
  • “We looked at the structure of Metroid Prime closely,” Asmussen says. “It’s not exactly like Metroidvania. We also looked at games like Bloodborne and Dark Souls that have the same types of methodology. We studied those games and they inspired us to find an experience that works well for our game.”
  • As players duck off into the corners of environments, Cal stumbles upon chests that reward him with a variety of upgrades. These chests hold items that can extend his Force and health meters, as well as skill points that he can cash in on a skill tree to unlock new abilities and move sets. Respawn wouldn’t go into what kinds of skills Cal can unlock, but did give us a look at the screen, which features a sea of interlinked circles.
  • Since Cal doesn’t heal over time during combat, he needs to rely on health canisters to get a boost on the fly. If his health is low, he can snap his fingers or ask BD for help (performed by pressing up on the d-pad). The canister pops out of a compartment in BD’s casing, and Cal catches it, and within just a second, applies it to himself for an immediate shot of health. These health canisters function exactly like Dark Souls’ Estus Flasks, and won’t replenish until the player finds a save point or returns to The Stinger Mantis. Retreating to a save point comes with a risk, however, as enemies will respawn. Determining when to burn health canisters is part of the strategy tied to exploration. BD periodically leaps off of Cal’s back to gather items he sees that can be used to synthesize new canisters. Asmussen says obtaining additional canisters is a significant reward, as BD starts the game with only two of them.
  • Exploration also unearths other chest types that contain cosmetic items to change the way Cal, BD, and The Stinger Mantis look. And yes, lightsaber parts are a part of that equation. If a blue blade isn’t your style, you can find different colors, hilts, and other components that alter the saber’s overall design. Just don’t expect to get a red blade for a Jedi.
  • One of the Force powers Cal taps into frequently is close to the hearts of many of Respawn’s employees who worked on the Titanfall games. He can wall run for a good 15 feet, but only on specific surfaces that have a visual language players will get to know. Jumping toward a wall is as easy as hitting a button. Cal can also call upon the Force to perform a double jump, a move that breaks the laws of gravity in most games, but actually makes sense given the Jedi’s power pool. When Cal doesn’t need to use the Force, he can swing on vines hanging from trees.
  • As Cal explores Kashyyyk’s wilderness, BD can scan fallen enemies and the environment to give the player a chance to learn more about the world through log entries. Respawn hasn’t settled on whether or not these optional discoveries will give players potential skill points if enough are collected, but does want to reward all forms of exploration.
  • Kashyyyk was an impressive first look that featured plenty of puzzles and reveals I don’t want to spoil for you. This gameplay slice takes place roughly a few hours into the game, and lasts for around 30 minutes, which Asmussen says gives us a look of just 15 to 20 percent of this planet, implying Jedi: Fallen Order may be somewhat lengthy.
  • The KXes are fast and athletic, and can pick up Cal by the throat and slam him to the ground, taking a huge chunk of his health away, all while offering a comedic quip. Some battles include vehicles like an AT-ST, which stomps around on the battlefield and alternates between firing lasers, rockets, and mines. The player can send all of these attacks back through the Force.
  • Some troopers have energy shields on the end of their blaster, others have flamethrowers that can keep Cal at bay, and some even wield rocket launchers. These powerful foes still fall into Jedi: Fallen Order’s grunt category, yet each can give Cal a run for his credits.
  • Asmussen says the game features a variety of boss and mini boss battles, and the creatures that appear in each world are unique to those places – meaning you won’t come across a different colored version of a beast you fought on a different planet.
  • Almost every button press in the game has an augment that is executed by either double-tapping a button or holding it. Respawn designed the controls in way that all powers can be used at any time, and the player will never be asked to dive into a menu to swap them out. The controls are mapped in ways that are easy to grasp. On the PlayStation 4 controller, lightsaber strikes are mapped to square for basic swings and triangle for focused attacks. If the player taps triangle, they execute a heavy attack, but if they hold the button, Cal performs a force-powered, close-the-gap dash. The X button is jump, which can be used for leap attacks when followed up by either saber strike.
  • The Force powers are all assigned to shoulder buttons. Cal may still be learning the ropes, but he has a firm grasp of Force push (R2), pull (L2), and a power that is unique to him called slow (R1). Slow lives up to its name and will slow down one enemy at a time to a near motionless state, which opens up a short window of time to circle around them and hopefully take them out. Slow can also be used on lasers, which hover in the air and move forward slowly, looking similar to the bolt Kylo Ren froze in time in Force Awakens.
  • The combat system ends up being more about counters and finding clever ways to catch enemies off-guard, or deplete their armor meter to stagger them. The player also has to keep an eye on the stamina, Force, and health meters to know what tools to use. The calculated dance ends up being surprisingly intense, making you think intimately about every little action you unleash. It ends up being circular, with both sides looking for opportunities; a routine fans of From Software’s work have come to know well.
STORY/CHARACTERS:
  • The game begins on the planet Bracca, a Mid-Rim world the Empire uses as a shipyard where derelict starships are dismantled and harvested for parts. “They’re tearing down these old Republic vessels, which is symbolic to the Fallen Order,” says Stig Asmussen, Jedi: Fallen Order’s director, who also directed God of War 3.
  • During the heart of the Clone Wars, Cal was learning the ways of the Force. Asmussen says he may have gone on a few missions, but he wasn’t sent out by the Order like Anakin and Obi-Wan to deal with major issues. In the aftermath of Chancellor Palpatine’s Order 66 (which decrees all Jedi are enemies of the Republic), Cal’s entire life was turned upside down, and he had to abandon everything he knew, turning from a purveyor of hope to an enemy of the state.
  • Respawn doesn’t want to say much about Cal or his history, implying he could be someone significant. But unlike Rey’s origin story in The Force Awakens, which created more questions than answers, Cal’s origin is revealed as the game unfolds. Players won’t be left hanging waiting for a sequel to fill in the gaps.
  • These revelations aren’t delivered in flashbacks, but instead are learned as the game moves forward; Respawn wants to deliver as much story as possible in real-time as the player still controls Cal. Some slower or more impactful moments are handled in cutscenes, but most of the narrative sequences don’t disrupt gameplay and are woven into the action.
  • Cal (who is brought to life by Cameron Monaghan) managed to stay hidden on Bracca for years, but ends up being outed through an event Respawn again doesn’t want to reveal. Someone on the wrong side learns he’s with the Jedi within minutes of the game’s beginning, and the player is suddenly hunted by the Empire. It doesn’t sound like there is much of a grace period to explore Bracca early on. As stormtroopers and the Emperor’s finest hunters are called in to execute Cal, he finds help from an unexpected source.
  • “He comes in contact with a mysterious lady, a former Jedi Knight named Cere (played by Debra Wilson) who thinks she has a shot at restoring the Jedi Order,” Asmussen says. “Cal is skeptical of the mission, and unsure of the Jedi Order, but he believes in survival. She makes a pact with him: ‘If you help me out, I’ll help you finish your Jedi training.’
  • From what we know, during this period of the Emperor’s rise to power, most of the Jedi have gone into hiding or are dead. After years of war, the galaxy is at a point of acceptance with the Empire’s directive. Worlds are looking for a faction to rise up and reestablish control. Many of them willfully accept the help of the Empire and turn a blind eye on the highly trained weapons it sends in, like Darth Vader and the Inquisitorious group to eradicate the Jedi.
  • Could Cere know the location of a large group of lost Jedi? Again, Respawn wants to keep the story under lock and key, but whatever Cere knows becomes the game’s McGuffin to a degree. Cere is a constant in Cal’s life, but she won’t be with him on the battlefield. Cal is sent on missions while Cere handles reconnaissance.
  • Cal instead develops a tightknit friendship with a small droid named BD-1. Much like a boy and his dog, Cal and BD are inseparable. While BD can freely walk around on the terrain on his little AT-ST-like legs, he mostly sits on Cal’s back, which of course expedites traversal and exploration.
  • This small crew ends up being dangerous cargo aboard a ship called The Stinger Mantis, a new vessel type Respawn and Lucasfilm created for the game. Star Wars artist Doug Chiang helped bring this unique ship to life.
  • The ship’s exterior is blue and silver (but can be customized by the player), and the interior is darkly lit with orange and black hues on the seats and walls. Living quarters are in the back and a small lounge is in the center, as is a galactic map that the player can interact with. The ship has one large wing jetting up like a dorsal fin. It also has a small turbine that can rotate with the wing for various flight needs. The engines on the backside burn blue when taking off.
  • This unique vessel is helmed by the equally unique captain Greez Dritus, who is part of a stout alien species that is another new canonical creation made by Respawn and Lucasfilm. “Greez’s inspiration was John C. Reilly and Mr. Furley from Three’s Company,” Asmussen says with a laugh.
  • When players choose a new destination, the flight is handled in real-time, meaning there won’t be any load screens, giving the player time to engage with the different activities on the ship. Along with Bracca, the quest to restore the Jedi Order takes Cal to Kashyyyk, the wookiee homeworld.
  • In a brief lull of the action, another unexpected guest drops in, this one slamming onto the window right in front of Cal. We see a middle-aged man in green armor who is curious about the occupants of this commandeered Imperial vehicle. It’s Saw Gerrera, the Clone Wars veteran who was played by Forest Whitaker in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story. “Hey. Who are you?” he yells through the window. The voice is immediately recognizable – Whitaker has reprised his role, much like he did in episodes of Rebels.
  • Once a part of the Jedi Order, the Second Sister turned on her people and joined the Emperor’s Inquisitorious. She now kills Jedi. She first appeared in the comic book Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith, but was first created by Respawn and Lucasfilm’s story group. Her appearance was an Easter egg for the forthcoming game.
  • Companion droid BD-1 took over two years to design, a process that had Respawn and Lucasfilm working closely together to figure out his look, personality, sound, and overall functionality both in the game and for the greater Star Wars universe.
  • One of the starting points came from an appreciation of the bond established between a bird and dog in Charles Schulz’s Snoopy. BD-1 is, in essence, a hybrid of both Woodstock and Snoopy’s personalities. “He’s kind of a bird that tweets around, and is also loyal like a dog,” says game director Stig Asmussen. BD’s antennae basically mimic dog ears, in terms of reacting to sound and situations.
  • The final touch in making BD-1 a legitimate piece of Star Wars’ lore is enlisting the audio talents of Ben Burtt, a sound designer who has been a part of most of the Star Wars movies, TV shows, and games. He created the voices of Chewbacca, R2-D2, and even Darth Vader’s breathing. Burtt created the chirpy voice for BD-1, and works closely with Respawn on all of the droid’s audio.

    DEVELOPMENT
  • Prior to beginning development of Jedi: Fallen Order, Respawn pitched EA on a Star Wars project, but the two sides couldn’t agree on a deal that made sense. Director Stig Asmussen and a small team of developers at Respawn then set out to create a new intellectual property that featured third-person melee combat. When a demo was ready, Respawn pitched it to EA, which loved what was there, but thought it had great potential as Star Wars game. Respawn’s CEO Vince Zampella asked his team if they would rather continue working on the original IP or turn it into Star Wars. The team enthusiastically said “Star Wars.”
  • The next step was getting the blessing from Lucasfilm. Respawn pitched the melee action game, but Lucasfilm was wary, as Jedi are not freely thrown around and are a sacred part of the franchise that need the right guidance. Asmussen and his team eventually delivered enough information and assurances to make Lucasfilm come around on the idea for a Jedi game. Lucasfilm helped Respawn figure out the era and story for this particular Jedi tale.


I expected something far worse than this tbh, something linear.. i get the impression that it's not a huge open world like AssCreed, but more like Metroid Prime or DS, but on the other hand with back-tracking so there will be a sense of you're actually in a living breathing world, unlike most star wars games where you just move forward in a linear fashion. KOTOR it aint, but no one in their right mind expected that.

JDR13 June 9th, 2019 10:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by vurt (Post 1061571187)
Graphics doesn't tend to get better, only worse (plenty of examples of that, dark souls 2, far cry, Witcher 3 etc etc). It looks good enough but it does look dated. xbox is the most powerful console and its very similar to PC so i doubt there will be much difference in the PC version, a little better textures and AA perhaps. It looks "ok" apart from the dead lighting, same with the art / models.. it's not so bad that i wouldnt play it.

I don't think it looks dated, and I'm pretty big on graphics. I wouldn't call it top-notch, but I think it looks like an average AAA game from a visual standpoint, and I think the animations look good.

I'll still have to see more than what they've shown so far before deciding whether or not to buy it. I have very little faith in anything coming from EA nowadays.

Andrew23 June 9th, 2019 10:50

Didnt give me any From software feel. But I did feel Uncharted games inspiration (console virgins might rather mention modern Tomb Raider). Those games are fine as long as wow effect keeps momentum. Without that, the gameplay itself never kept my interest for long. Lets see, perhaps this will be better. Or not.

vurt June 9th, 2019 10:57

It doesn't look like a linear Uncharted or Tomb Raider game at all imo.. they don't offer things like back tracking or choosing where to go. It's more similar to DS in that regard i think, you're not limited to progressing in just one direction.

Stingray June 9th, 2019 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by vurt (Post 1061571181)
The game is made by Respawn. EA will publish it.

Ok, but Respawn is a subsidiary of EA.

Dez June 9th, 2019 11:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by vurt (Post 1061571187)
Graphics doesn't tend to get better, only worse (plenty of examples of that, dark souls 2, far cry, Witcher 3 etc etc). It looks good enough but it does look dated. xbox is the most powerful console and its very similar to PC so i doubt there will be much difference in the PC version, a little better textures and AA perhaps. It looks "ok" apart from the dead lighting, same with the art / models.. it's not so bad that i wouldnt play it.

Copied from another site…

…I expected something far worse than this tbh, something linear.. i get the impression that it's not a huge open world like AssCreed, but more like Metroid Prime or DS, but on the other hand with back-tracking so there will be a sense of you're actually in a living breathing world, unlike most star wars games where you just move forward in a linear fashion. KOTOR it aint, but no one in their right mind expected that.

Vurt thank you for putting all that info together. I truly enjoyed reading it. :cool:

This sounds like a really decent star wars game. From the info you gathered, I think we can assume that there will be little ranged combat with blasters, but otherwise there is plenty to like. The game seems to have a good writing team behind it, so we'll be for a treat in terms of story and characters. I'm a sucker for good star wars story, so yeah I'm itching to get my hands on this game.

After watching the gameplay trailer, I began worring that it would be awfully linear and full of cutscenes, but that info seems to put those worries of mine at rest. It won't be kotor 3 for sure, but it sounds like there is room exploration and we can return to previously explored gameworlds.

As for graphics and visual quality, not the cutting edge perhaps, but I'm satisfied. Most important thing is that the gameplay, saber combat and use of force powers looks really fun.

I eager to see the skills tree and what kind force powers / feats this young jedi can learn. Can he for instance fall into dark side? I hope he can and we can feel his struggle during the main campaign as he begins to untap his full potential. ^^

DarkELVES June 9th, 2019 12:09

It's got the atmosphere right, I'm buying if the overall quality is decent enough!

Morrandir June 9th, 2019 12:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by vurt (Post 1061571187)
Copied from another site

Thanks. That sounds pretty good.
Except the thing about save points and respawns. :(

Andrew23 June 9th, 2019 12:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by vurt (Post 1061571194)
It doesn't look like a linear Uncharted or Tomb Raider game at all imo.. they don't offer things like back tracking or choosing where to go. It's more similar to DS in that regard i think, you're not limited to progressing in just one direction.

Dunno what they are promising, but video looked pretty linear. About promises I dont care much, especially not gonna keep my hopes up based on EA promises. But if they really make good game, I will play it of course.

ChienAboyeur June 9th, 2019 13:19

Looks like another made for streamer product. It is bland. Combat is nerveless. Even the show caser swings in the air. They sort of think that emulating TW3 type of combat is the way to go.

On a side note, there is a growing trend among video makers of people who destroy cultural products for the sake of it.
For vid products, this trend goes so bad video makers use review copies to exhibit bugs when they know most of them will be crushed by day one patch. It pays the bill.

This product looks fine material for this endeavour.
Just the way the Sith wields his weapons, harming more his comrades than his enemy baffles.
Most of these video makers are part of the woke crowd though, and that type is angered by liminar elements. Time will tell.

They are the type who scream about skin colour, gender that would be untrue to source materials and stuff. They are the TW is based on historical Poland type of people.

As years went by, the idea of force in Star Wars was cheapened. Jedi knights were supposed to be a humble lot, using sparsely the force, training hard in their body to avoid overreliance on the force.

The vid shows a jedi that makes wonder if he can pass water without using the force.
But he is the right skin colour and the right gender so it is enough to be true to the source material.

vurt June 9th, 2019 13:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew23 (Post 1061571218)
Dunno what they are promising, but video looked pretty linear. About promises I dont care much, especially not gonna keep my hopes up based on EA promises. But if they really make good game, I will play it of course.

they probably wanted to show a linear part with some story elements so that the viewer knows what's going on. Journalists claims its similar to the Metroid Prime games.. but yes that part looked 100% linear, hope journos arent lying through their teeth, though i don't know why they would.

And yeah, even skill tree is there it seems (something i didn't expect tbh..)

YoungGrumpyMan June 9th, 2019 14:24

Really enjoyed what I saw. Gameplay did look kind of linear and straightforward, but it was the combat system that stole the show for me. Gave me huges vibes of Sekiro in terms of the combat system, although the AI seems really fucking dumb, but that's business as usual for stormtroopers. Probably gonna play this in Hard mode.

Also enjoyed the graphics, ambience, sound, all pretty good to me.

Really bummed me how they framed that this demo was being played by a pro player who knows the game and its systems. That didn't seem like a pro player at all? They took some stupid fucking hits from the spiders, and sometimes looked like they weren't unsure how to proceed, or which enemy to attack, but maybe that was part of giving off that "thoughtful combat" vibe.

Not pre-ordering, but really, really excited for this game. So far the game I'm most excited for in 2019. Let's see if that's the case after E3 ends.

Enviado do meu SM-N960F através do Tapatalk

Terry June 9th, 2019 18:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stingray (Post 1061571176)
Electronic Arts. It's notable because people have been surprised that they're making a purely single player game.

Thanks for the info Stingray.

rjshae June 9th, 2019 19:16

Looks very cool. Needs a mini-map though -- I'd get lost pretty quickly.

booboo June 9th, 2019 19:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morrandir (Post 1061571215)
Thanks. That sounds pretty good.
Except the thing about save points and respawns. :(

Yeah, that struck me as well…I'm surprised Joxer didn't react ;-) Otherwise looks quite fun.

vurt June 9th, 2019 19:52

save points are great.. it's a good balance that makes a lot of sense, it doesn't make the game a rogue-like (which of course does not fit everyone and can be tedious) and it also doesn't make you "cheat" using saves (which is too easy to do instead of "getting good".)

Respawns sucks though. But maybe that's a no-brainer in a game from a company named Respawn..

booboo June 9th, 2019 19:57

I can deal with save points if 1) they are fairly common and 2) I can exit the game whenever I need to and restart where I left of. If you have to play on for any length of time before you are 'allowed' to stop, well, that I don't support. I don't mind sensible respawn e.g. after a week or month, fauna has returned after you butchered it all ;-) But I remember Badlands, where an entire cave of enemies respawned within minutes of me getting to the end of a large the cave and heading back again. That's BS.

vurt June 9th, 2019 20:02

Respawns can be acceptable if they make a lot of sense, but they should not happen for a rather long period.. And yes, i agree that it can be a bit annoying when you want to quit and it won't save your progress because the save point hasn't been reached.

Arkadia7 June 9th, 2019 20:14

I'm not a Star Wars fan boy so this game is not one I would be interested in. That said, if I was a Star Wars fan, I think it looks pretty good in terms of the setting, the graphics, the light saber combat, the mood, all that fits into the Star Wars milieu very well. Even the way too cute little mechanical toy he carries on his back and that makes those too cutesy type noises. I can see why that would appeal to a fan. (to me it is like nails on the chalkboard and "cuteness overload")

I also don't like the young Jedi character at all, to me he is very bland. At least you can ignore him with his back to you most of the time while you're playing, lol. But I'm picky and like I said, not really a fan, so…

JDR13 June 9th, 2019 20:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by vurt (Post 1061571252)
save points are great.. it's a good balance that makes a lot of sense, it doesn't make the game a rogue-like (which of course does not fit everyone and can be tedious) and it also doesn't make you "cheat" using saves (which is too easy to do instead of "getting good".).

You know what's even better? Having the ability to manually save too. :)

vurt June 9th, 2019 20:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061571260)
You know what's even better? Having the ability to manually save too. :)

Then why have save points at all.. save points are there to not let you save at any time.

JDR13 June 9th, 2019 20:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by vurt (Post 1061571266)
Then why have save points at all.. save points are there to not let you save at any time.

Um… because sometimes people need to stop playing and don't want to lose their progress?

vurt June 9th, 2019 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061571267)
Um… because sometimes people need to stop playing and don't want to lose their progress?

…all the rogue-likes i play save if you quit the game. It's probably the standard since it would be "a bit" tedious to restart a game that takes perhaps 100h to finish ;)

JDR13 June 9th, 2019 20:57

This is a rogue-like now?


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 20:07.
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by DragonByte Security (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright by RPGWatch