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Dhruin April 9th, 2011 00:33

Dungeon Siege 3 - Preorder Offers
 
Dungeon Siege 3 is now available for preorder on Steam, with bonuses of the first two games. Looking around the other vendors to keep things fair, Gamersgate is offering 10% off and I couldn't see it on Impulse or Direct 2 Drive.
More information.

dagoo7 April 9th, 2011 00:33

Anyone know if the original DS thru steam will work with the ultima lazarus mod.?

Been waiting to play that one until someone finally came around with a digital download of the original DS game. Hopefully, can get ultima running and game somewhat more optimized for modern systems.

Jaesun April 9th, 2011 01:51

That's the big unknown question right now. I did let the U6P people know on their forums. Would be awesome of STEAM or Square Enix to give them a free copy to possibly test it with.

azarhal April 9th, 2011 02:47

Game require Steam to play.

Including retails and Gamersgate, at least they are nice enough to warn about the DRM, it's usually not written on the box.

JDR13 April 9th, 2011 03:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by azarhal (Post 1061062391)
Game require Steam to play.

Another reason I won't be buying it.

Jaesun April 9th, 2011 03:59

What is Gamersgate? And well ALL Steam games require steam to run. No surprise there.

A shame GOG couldn't have gotten this, for all the STEAM haters, ;)

JDR13 April 9th, 2011 04:05

Well of course I expect it to need Steam if it's downloaded from there, but not if it's the retail box version.

DoctorNarrative April 9th, 2011 04:55

Times like this I wish I could get over my box addiction, but I can't.

Jaesun April 9th, 2011 06:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061062396)
Well of course I expect it to need Steam if it's downloaded from there, but not if it's the retail box version.

The pre-order specifically states you get a boxed copy? Did I miss something?

JDR13 April 9th, 2011 06:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaesun (Post 1061062415)
The pre-order specifically states you get a boxed copy? Did I miss something?

My comment was about DS3 in general, not the pre-order specifically. Did you read azarhal's post?

DoctorNarrative April 9th, 2011 06:26

Some people who only buy games on Steam seem completely oblivious to the fact that Steam is often forced on those who don't.

If Steam was always optional I would never bitch about it.

kalniel April 9th, 2011 12:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoctorNarrative (Post 1061062417)
Some people who only buy games on Steam seem completely oblivious to the fact that Steam is often forced on those who don't.

If Steam was always optional I would never bitch about it.

Well I thought games were always optional :p

Jaesun April 9th, 2011 19:38

http://www.ultimaaiera.com/blog/dung…heres-a-catch/

Quote:

Woah, okay, I got it running. Automatic setup doesn’t seem to work, but just moving the files to their folders, it runs fine. So, yeah, it works on steam
One person has said The Ultima 6 Project seems to work so far with this steam version.

Roland April 10th, 2011 03:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by azarhal (Post 1061062391)
Game require Steam to play.

Including retails and Gamersgate, at least they are nice enough to warn about the DRM, it's usually not written on the box.

Having a hard time verifying this…

Not seeing it on any of the websites or box covers I can find for the game.

Do you perchance have a link?

Thx :)

Edit/update :

Well Gamersgate IS listing this:

DRM: Requires a 3rd party download and account

So it's like the Warhammer DOW II I guess, even the PC Retail version needs a STEAM account and logon to play….

Thanks for the heads up!

That's not an issue for me but good to know nonetheless ;)

(Might as well purchase through Steam then and get the earlier games too heh)

azarhal April 10th, 2011 14:11

DSIII isn't the first Square published game to use Steamwork either. It is the first to be sold digitally elsewhere then Steam though. I call this an improvement, before Steamwork games were Steam exclusive for digital version.

There's a lot of chance that Deus Ex: Human Revolution will use it as well, despite there being no confirmations either.

MysterD April 11th, 2011 04:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaesun (Post 1061062395)
What is Gamersgate? And well ALL Steam games require steam to run. No surprise there.

A shame GOG couldn't have gotten this, for all the STEAM haters, ;)

Gamersgate is Paradox's digital distribution store.

MysterD April 11th, 2011 05:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061062396)
Well of course I expect it to need Steam if it's downloaded from there, but not if it's the retail box version.

I'm sure it's easier for dev's and publishers [and costs less, too] to have on the PC just one Steam version to patch w/ one DRM (Steam)…
as opposed to say having a Steam-version and rest are Non-Steam versions.

Some games bought at Retail that actually do require Steam:
Saints Row 2, FEAR 2, Fallout: New Vegas, DOW2 + Expansions, anything Valve does [obviously], Dark Messiah [MP portion requires Steam, while SP gives you the option of Steam or Non-Steam], AVP 2010, Kane & Lynch 2, Sup Com 2, etc.

And yes, the list is growing.

ChienAboyeur April 11th, 2011 11:29

Liked DS and DS2. Was unconvinced by DS3. Digital distribution version only makes the decision easy.

Eisberg April 11th, 2011 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChienAboyeur (Post 1061062712)
Liked DS and DS2. Was unconvinced by DS3. Digital distribution version only makes the decision easy.

Physical version being released as well, you can pre-order it at Gamestop, Bestbuy, Walmart for physical version.

Eisberg April 11th, 2011 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061062396)
Well of course I expect it to need Steam if it's downloaded from there, but not if it's the retail box version.

Steamworks is also a DRM method. I don't like DRM, but if a game has it, I would rather it being Steamworks.

Roi Danton April 11th, 2011 16:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eisberg (Post 1061062729)
Steamworks is also a DRM method. I don't like DRM, but if a game has it, I would rather it being Steamworks.

Steam is for me the most convenient DRM method I can imagine. But this may also be because I'm a Steam fan (I actually buy games I already own on Steam sales just to have access via Steam).

crpgnut April 11th, 2011 17:28

Same here, Roi. I almost always buy a steam copy eventually.

ChienAboyeur April 11th, 2011 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eisberg (Post 1061062728)
Physical version being released as well, you can pre-order it at Gamestop, Bestbuy, Walmart for physical version.

If I understood the thread, what you call a physical version is actually a burnt digital distribution version.
When I want a digital version, I buy it from the digital online retailer. I dont need physical to get a digital version.

If indeed the physical version is a non digital online version, it is another story…

oliverh72 April 11th, 2011 17:50

For those curious about buying DS3 even partially for DS1 & DS2, here's my findings so far.

They work on Win7 x64. That being said, I'm having a devil of a time with lag. This is gameplay lag as well as cursor lag. The cursor is noticeably slow and the camera is jerky and is mostly noticeable with the edge scrolling, but also during movement as well. I've got a 2.4ghz core2duo with an HD6850.

I've tried compatibility modes and CPU affinity with no luck. I'm going to force vsync off when I get home tonight and see what that does, as I'm quite certain it is on by default in the game, with no way to disable it. I've seen this kind of cursor lag before in other games when vsync is enabled (Dark Messiah springs to mind). In addition, I read somewhere that people had some success setting the compatibility mode to Vista, though it seems odd. I'll try it if vsync off fails, as it's more or less unplayable at the moment.

From what I can tell, mods also don't work. I've tried the far zoom mod, the large text mod and the far fog mod, all without any noticeable differences. If anyone has gotten these working, please let me know how. I've not tried anything beyond just sticking them in the resources folder.

I've also tried the various widescreen fixes, but I can't really see why they're necessary - just setting the resolution in the .ini file seems to work fine. I've read that without the widescreen mod fixes, the resolution is vert- as opposed to horiz+, but I really don't care that much to mess with it.

The farther fog, farther zoom and larger text mods would be very nice though. Has anyone else tried DS2 from steam yet?

DoctorNarrative April 11th, 2011 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChienAboyeur (Post 1061062741)
If I understood the thread, what you call a physical version is actually a burnt digital distribution version.
When I want a digital version, I buy it from the digital online retailer. I dont need physical to get a digital version.

If indeed the physical version is a non digital online version, it is another story…

The packaged versions are there for people like me who want a box, or for people with slow/capped bandwith.

azarhal April 11th, 2011 18:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoctorNarrative (Post 1061062753)
The packaged versions are there for people like me who want a box, or for people with slow/capped bandwith.

When I bought the retail version of Portal a few years back, the only thing in the box was:
- Serial key
- Steam installer on the disk

I had to download the game, when the point of buying the box was not to have to download the game.

DoctorNarrative April 11th, 2011 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by azarhal (Post 1061062757)
When I bought the retail version of Portal a few years back, the only thing in the box was:
- Serial key
- Steam installer on the disk

I had to download the game, when the point of buying the box was not to have to download the game.

Most of the time the whole game is on the disc. Sometimes they leave a lot of info off the disc in some silly attempt to stop piracy. It's rare you have to download more than a few hundred MBs though. I think Metro 2033 is the only game I had to download more than a GB after installing.

Alrik Fassbauer April 11th, 2011 21:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by azarhal (Post 1061062757)
When I bought the retail version of Portal a few years back, the only thing in the box was:
- Serial key
- Steam installer on the disk

I had to download the game, when the point of buying the box was not to have to download the game.

Now that sounds REALLY bad !

They put the Steam installer on Disc into the box ??? O_O NOT the game ??? O_O
Now that's what I call bullshit.

Eisberg April 11th, 2011 22:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChienAboyeur (Post 1061062741)
If I understood the thread, what you call a physical version is actually a burnt digital distribution version.
When I want a digital version, I buy it from the digital online retailer. I dont need physical to get a digital version.

If indeed the physical version is a non digital online version, it is another story…

So what you really want is no DRM? Right? Seems like these days most games have online activation.

Alrik Fassbauer April 11th, 2011 23:28

Magazines here often come with disc versions of games with NO DRM …
After several years, of course … Usually at the end of a product life cycle, I assume …

Zygo April 11th, 2011 23:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysterD (Post 1061062676)
Gamersgate is Paradox's digital distribution store.

Not true any more. It's a bit more than just that anyway- it actually has a larger number of titles than Steam by a fair margin.

There's still some shared ownership but they aren't sister companies as they were. Ironically, given Valve/Steam's relationship one of the reasons given was that there was reluctance by publishers to put titles on a service which was also effectively a developer/ publisher itself.


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