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Dhruin November 8th, 2011 23:43

M&M: Heroes VI - Review @ TenTonHammer
I'm on a heavy work schedule at the moment, so apologies for the abbreviated news. Anyway. TenTonHammer has a review of Might & Magic: Heroes VI with a score of 68/100 - interestingly, the "Gameplay" section has a score of 80/100 but the game gets criticised for being "too safe:

Heroes of Might and Magic VI isnít a bad game, per se; itís just that it itís too safe. Too little has changed between the combat and overworld map, and that which was changed was merely changed for convenience rather than mixing things up. All of the pieces of a good game in the series are here, but to be bluntÖ this could and SHOULD just be an expansion or mod for HoMM V that adds the new campaign and Sanctuary race.
More information.

Francesco November 8th, 2011 23:43

An expansion? An expansion usually adds new features or improve existing ones, but HoMM VI is just a dumbed down HoMM V (which was just HoMM III with crappier AI and unstable multiplayer).

jhwisner November 9th, 2011 03:00

See I would score the gameplay about an 85 myself (if i were feeling generous) and the overall package as it was when I purchased on release a 65-68. So I agree with their scoring - sort of - but the article itself and their rationale is terrible. The broader mechanics have been changed significantly, the graphics and art resources have been fairly heavily reworked, and the heroes' class and leveling system is completely different. Add to that the lengthy and somewhat ambitiously crafted campaigns and I find the suggestion that this should have been an expansion bewildering at best. There are some things that do feel like they leave the game somewhat incomplete - what with wizards being mentioned as a somewhat important force in the world in cut-scenes but being strangely absent while dragons and elves are missing entirely. There is the feeling that some important creatures/forces from the lore as well as traditional presences in the game have been carved out of the world so as to provide easy fodder for DLC and an expansion to THIS installment.

Decisions about Conflux integration, reliability their online service during the time in which I took to beat the campaigns, campaign scripting bugs, and overall polish would cause me to rate the overall product at around a 65-68 at launch (and presently since the initial patch seems to have fixed very few of the actual bugs and design decision issues are not likely to change at all.) While the existing campaigns are quite long and meaty in their middle and end-parts, they are somewhat unnecessarily padded by tutorials which account for roughly the first 1/4 of each of them. Were the pacing of each of the campaigns accelerated in the first part by forgoing the mandatory tutorials for each and every race, the inclusion of a 6th faction with its own campaign would not seem excessive. So yeah with the technical issues, lack of polish in some areas, lack of a 6th faction including important staples to HoMM lore, and questionable design and policy decisions I would score the overall product similarly.

I don't think comparing this game to an expansion is very accurate way to criticize the game. Its problems are far more complicated - and potentially far more odious - than being an insufficient addition that would have served better as an expansion. It feels like an installment where they looked at the content that traditionally exists in a Heroes game then carved out 1/4 of it right on the drawing board and labled it "for future DLC." They then went through previously existing features (like starting bonuses and more than 10 starting heroes) and labled certain things as "extras requiring constant online connectivity." Its hard to say you don't get your money's worth though, considering the length of the campaign and comparing it to other full price titles currently out. It is fair to say that it doesn't feel like they delivered a whole Heroes game in some respects. The cynic would even suggest that many traditional components (a 6th faction, major species/races, starting bonuses, more than 10 heroes to use in quick-play) have been held hostage to justify Conflux as well as future DLC.

DArtagnan November 9th, 2011 10:56

Yeah, they're definitely on the wrong track. The game represents some of the most significant changes to the franchise since its inception.

The more I play it, the more i like it - actually.

I wish for simultaneous-turn multiplayer, but that's probably my biggest complaint.

ikbenrichard November 9th, 2011 11:14

The balance is not that great in the game, but the inferno faction is really bad. Campaign 1 and 2 are really hard, while 3 is normal again.
After lvl 17 the hero and his army are starting to be overpowered.

With summon elementals and only a few units i can beat alot of NPC/enemies.

nonetheless, a good game, even though i never played a game with so many bugs in 20years of gaming.

jhwisner November 9th, 2011 17:23


Originally Posted by ikbenrichard (Post 1061104635)
nonetheless, a good game, even though i never played a game with so many bugs in 20years of gaming.

Here, play this


To get the full day one experience, you must not install any patches or read any reviews or guides. Enjoy - only 5 bucks.

ikbenrichard November 13th, 2011 16:22


Originally Posted by jhwisner (Post 1061104700)
Here, play this


To get the full day one experience, you must not install any patches or read any reviews or guides. Enjoy - only 5 bucks.

Never played it, but i sense, it can be worse ;)

chamr November 14th, 2011 09:19

Dungeon Lords got a worse rep than I think it deserved. It deserved some of the wrath it received, but certainly not all of it. A lot of the emotion had to do with the hype leading up to release and the betrayal many players understandably felt once they had the game.

Drama from back in the day aside, if you like action RPGs, the CE is well worth the money these days. Very fun game, imho.

Dhruin November 14th, 2011 12:28

Flipside opinion. Worst game I ever played. Period.

chamr November 15th, 2011 07:06

lol! Where's txa when you need him? ;-)

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