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Dhruin November 29th, 2011 21:16

Ultima VII - Complete Edition on GOG
GOG has released a "Complete Edition" of Ultima VII, with Ultima 7: The Black Gate, Ultima 7: Forge of Virtue, Ultima 7 Part Two: Serpent Isle, Ultima 7 Part Two: The Silver Seed bundled for $5.99.
Thanks, Charles!
More information.

Angelspit November 29th, 2011 21:16

That's one impressive bundle. My favorite Ultima without the obnoxious Voodoo memory manager! I don't think I played The Silver Seed, as by the time I got a machine strong enough to run the game, the expansion couldn't be found in store.

blatantninja November 29th, 2011 21:20

From the GOG forums, looks like it has a DosBox wrapper. I had some trouble getting it to play correctly through DosBox myself, so if they have really optimized it, that's a welcome addition. Especially given the state of Exult.

I haven't pulled the trigger quite yet, but if they run one of those promos like they did in the D&D games, I'm pretty sure I'll end up buying their whole Origin catalog!

Ragnaris November 29th, 2011 21:38


Originally Posted by Angelspit (Post 1061108956)
That's one impressive bundle.

That was the first word out of my mouth as well - impressive! I think I may pick this up later tonight.

JDR13 November 29th, 2011 22:23

This is a definite buy for me. I want to see how it compares to Exult.

GothicGothicness November 29th, 2011 22:28

$5.99 what a steal! Everyone should buy that!

Lurking Grue November 29th, 2011 22:46


Originally Posted by blatantninja (Post 1061108958)
Especially given the state of Exult.

What's so bad about the state of Exult? I seem to recall it working pretty fine when I last gave it a spin about a year or so ago, playing c. half-way through Black Gate/Forge of Virtue without any problems.

Shagnak November 29th, 2011 23:09


Originally Posted by Lurking Grue (Post 1061108991)

What's so bad about the state of Exult? I seem to recall it working pretty fine when I last gave it a spin about a year or so ago, playing c. half-way through Black Gate/Forge of Virtue without any problems.

We've been here before :)
Some stuff that's been missing/unfinished for ages (NPC schedules, to name but one) is finally done/improved, but…

From the Exult homepage:
"What we've been up to since the rc1 release and why there is no final version yet.

Let's start off with the the bad news:
We have a bug that causes random objects in the games to disappear forever. When this happens Exult tends to crash badly. Unfortunately this bug is unpredictable and we have no sure way of reproducing and thus fixing it. We have some ideas of what is happening but no fix yet. This is a real show stopper and unless we fix it we can't release another release candidate or a final version. If you encounter this bug (disappearing objects, random crashes, especially in combat) best you can do is revert to an earlier savegame."

That was back in February.

blatantninja November 29th, 2011 23:13

Yeah, while it wasn't perfect before, the game worked. It may not have had every little 'extra' in the original game, but you could play through the game without a problem. And a lot of the enhancements (key ring mod, paperdolls, better resolutions) made the trade off worth it. But what ever they did after 1.2 seems to have completely destabilized it, and it doesn't look like they have any of the old versions still hosted. I still have 1.2 at home though.

pibbur0x2a November 29th, 2011 23:16


Originally Posted by GothicGothicness (Post 1061108985)
$5.99 what a steal! Everyone should buy that!

I obey!!!!

Thrasher November 29th, 2011 23:37

You may want to second guess that command. The gameplay can be annoying and tedious, but so can any game after too many hours. ;)

Sergorn November 29th, 2011 23:47

After nearly a decade of playing Ultima VII with Exult there is no way I could replay the vanilla version of U7/SI personally.

And people seems to forget how BUGGY the original games are - with Exult I can play SI without fear of suffering the infamouse sacrifice bugs. So the tradeoff is well worth it - never mind the improved graphics and sound and such.

The dissapering item bug really isn't that much of an issue as long as you save regularly - I had it once on Ultima VI and jsut reverted to an earlier save. No biggy.


JDR13 November 30th, 2011 02:10

Yeah, Exult was pretty much flawless for me. The only thing I noticed was that combat formations didn't seem to be properly implemented.

Zloth November 30th, 2011 02:35

Just in time for the 20th anniversary…

Corwin November 30th, 2011 03:19

Picked it up immediately; can't resist that price.

skavenhorde November 30th, 2011 03:26

My Ultima Collection still works just fine. I've got every Ultima from Akebleth to U8 on it and it's not that hard to use with dosbox or whatever program I want. I think I'll pass on this one especially since I didn't care too much for the game.

Xian November 30th, 2011 03:57

I have 2 or 3 copies of it here already, the original floppies and collection on CD. I guess I am one of the few that was lukewarm on Ultima VII. The real turnoff for me was the lack of interaction in combat. I was used to controlling everyone in the party and it seemed to me to be on autopilot since I couldn't really control anyone but the Avatar. The RPG elements and story were great, but the combat is what kept it from being my favorite - Ultima IV would have that distinction.

Thrasher November 30th, 2011 04:18

I don't see much in the way of RPG elements in U7.

- Hardly any character customization
- No choices with consequences (except thieving)

JDR13 November 30th, 2011 04:31

Then I guess you don't see what many others do, but I don't think this is the thread to debate that stuff.

skavenhorde November 30th, 2011 05:34

I should amend my earlier statement. I grew to like U7 and loved Serpent Isle, but I will always prefer the second trilogy opposed to the last trilogy. It changed too much of what Ultima meant to me.

As for the RPG comment from Thrasher, JDR ignore it. It's too obvious. He knows as well as you and I know that games back then didn't have those kind of elements in them. Well not that many in any case. U4, imo, is one of the best RPGs ever made and yet it doesn't have many RPG elements, but who cares?

U7 felt like a living breathing world. It felt like you were in this world. I'll hand it to Garriot for doing that. My problem was with the combat.

Comparing today's standards to games back then is silly.

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