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GothicGothicness September 28th, 2015 12:40

NASA's big (?) Discovery presentation today
 
Is it water on Mars, what do you guys think ?

DArtagnan September 28th, 2015 12:43

I think they've discovered that Matt Damon was abandoned on Mars after filming The Martian on location - as they thought he was dead.

zahratustra September 28th, 2015 12:43

Why guess? We will know soon enough :)

DArtagnan September 28th, 2015 12:47

Seriously, though, I hate this thing with announcing an announcement. If you know something - let us know ASAP.

joxer September 28th, 2015 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by GothicGothicness (Post 1061358368)
Is it water on Mars, what do you guys think ?

Eh?
Isn't this late news about their discovery of noncarbon based organisms (cyanide) on Earth?

If it's not, I'll put stakes on the "impulse engine" that contradicts physics laws that was proved as working with tests not just by NASA we already discussed.


EDIT:
Ah now I see it, NASA promised some Mars mystery solution.
There is only one Mars mystery and it's Cydonia photos. For decades NASA refused to investigate the area. And for all I know, they still didn't, scared of what they could actually find there.

So expect just another calming down of a nation that was ignorant enough to know that War of Worlds is just a radio drama and is panichappy.
To cover the shame, there are already and will be more articles that are trying to sell the fog calling it a myth:
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/h…dcast_did.html

Ripper September 28th, 2015 13:19

Flowing water on Mars, I expect.

We havent discovered non-carbon based life, Joxer. You might be thinking of the organisms that use arsenic in place of phosphorus, but they are still carbon-based.

joxer September 28th, 2015 13:24

Have to add this, most probably happening today at around 17:30 CET.

http://www.bug.hr/_cache/a04155d50a9…e7702da663.jpg

azarhal September 28th, 2015 13:25

Haven't NASA already said there was water on Mars already?

Oh going by this, they found proof of salty water flowing on the surface (as theorized years ago) and that is what they are going to announce to today.

GothicGothicness September 28th, 2015 14:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripper (Post 1061358378)
Flowing water on Mars, I expect.

We havent discovered non-carbon based life, Joxer. You might be thinking of the organisms that use arsenic in place of phosphorus, but they are still carbon-based.

That would be amazing… let us hope so!

Ursusdraconis September 28th, 2015 16:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripper (Post 1061358378)
Flowing water on Mars, I expect.

We havent discovered non-carbon based life, Joxer. You might be thinking of the organisms that use arsenic in place of phosphorus, but they are still carbon-based.

It was suspected that some bacteria in extreme phosphorus poor enviroments used arsenic in stead of phophorus in their DNA. (In terms of chemical properties both elements are very alike).

However it was proved that this was false. The bacteria still used phosphorus, the arsenic was present in the bacteria, but not in it's DNA.

see:
http://www.nature.com/news/arsenic-l…er-all-1.11520

joxer September 28th, 2015 17:05

Erm, I don't remember the whole thing in details, but when it was presented I found it just mildly interesting, just not as scientific breakthrough as NASA announced.
That's why I wrote wrong stuff from my (obviously fading) memory. Just cba to google for actual details.

Ripper September 28th, 2015 17:08

Thank you - I hadn't seen that.

GothicGothicness September 28th, 2015 17:08

So…. flowing water on Mars.. that was it, I guess everyone already guessed it… now let us just wait until they find something living inside it!

Ripper September 28th, 2015 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by GothicGothicness (Post 1061358413)
So…. flowing water on Mars.. that was is, I guess everyone already guessed it… now let us just wait until they find something living inside it!

"…And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space, because there's bugger all down here on Earth"

joxer September 28th, 2015 17:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by GothicGothicness (Post 1061358413)
So…. flowing water on Mars.. that was it, I guess everyone already guessed it… now let us just wait until they find something living inside it!

What, they already revealed what's the "mystery"? And it's - water?
For god's sakes. Okay, maybe those NASA staff are just obsessed with water so to them it's like revelation of Jesus.

Ripper September 28th, 2015 17:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061358422)
What, they already revealed what's the "mystery"? And it's - water?
For god's sakes. Okay, maybe those NASA staff are just obsessed with water so to them it's like revelation of Jesus.

Well, on Earth, no matter how extreme the conditions, wherever we find liquid water we find some sort of life, so this is what they're excited about.

Carnifex September 28th, 2015 17:44

Marvin the Martian demands we give up the location of Bugs Bunny, or he will release the Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator upon us all!

pibbur who September 28th, 2015 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripper (Post 1061358378)
Flowing water on Mars, I expect.

We havent discovered non-carbon based life, Joxer. You might be thinking of the organisms that use arsenic in place of phosphorus, but they are still carbon-based.

AFAIK the germs supposed to use arsen in stead of phosphorus didn't use arsen after all. Several publications have critisized the original study, and consensus seems to be that it didn't happen. They tolerate high levels of arsen, but they don't incorporate it in their nucleotides.

Pibbur who likes water on mars as well as on earth

Edit: Oops, didn't see that the dragon bear already had commented on this. Sorry.

Wisdom September 28th, 2015 17:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061358422)
What, they already revealed what's the "mystery"? And it's - water?
For god's sakes. Okay, maybe those NASA staff are just obsessed with water so to them it's like revelation of Jesus.

Water is also the single biggest driver for any form of human colonization. On a cost basis its the most important factor. Kinda a big deal all the way around.

joxer September 28th, 2015 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripper (Post 1061358424)
Well, on Earth, no matter how extreme the conditions, wherever we find liquid water we find some sort of life, so this is what they're excited about.

Peh. It's just another NASA fart.

I wonder if anyone, if that's even possible, will ask them for what idiotic reason they refuse to investigate Cydonia for ages now. Shall we wait for China and India to do it?


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