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Aubrielle January 27th, 2016 04:47

Torment: Tides of Numenera - Early Access
 
Torment: Tides of Numenera has officially hit early access. Check out the new trailer.

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Couchpotato January 27th, 2016 04:47

Torment: Tides of Numenera Early Access only costs $45 & not $80 like Wasteland 2. :biggrin:

Wisdom January 27th, 2016 04:49

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Originally Posted by Couchpotato (Post 1061382189)
Torment: Tides of Numenera Early Access only costs $45 & not $80 like Wasteland 2. :biggrin:

Something so terrible about that sentence.

Couchpotato January 27th, 2016 04:56

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Originally Posted by Wisdom (Post 1061382192)
Something so terrible about that sentence.

Nope just saying it's a lot cheaper to play the Torment Beta for new buyers on Steam Early Access. Guess the developer learned a lesson from last time.;)

Oh and I probably could of used (and instead of &).:biggrin:

Wisdom January 27th, 2016 05:04

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Originally Posted by Couchpotato (Post 1061382195)
Nope just saying it's a lot cheaper to play the Torment Beta this rime for new buyers on Steam. Guess the developer learned a lesson from last time.;)

Oh and I probably could of used (and instead of &).:biggrin:

I mean the cost to beta test.

luj1 January 27th, 2016 05:04

Great news

Couchpotato January 27th, 2016 05:09

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Originally Posted by Wisdom (Post 1061382201)
I mean the cost to beta test.

I know as I was just messing with you.:)

As for the price I still remember reading the complaints about the $80 price tag.

luj1 January 27th, 2016 05:09

Just checked Steam


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Reviews - Positive (24) - Negative (1)

Thrasher January 27th, 2016 05:10

What do they say about a sucker born every minute? ;)

Couchpotato January 27th, 2016 05:19

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Originally Posted by Thrasher (Post 1061382206)
What do they say about a sucker born every minute? ;)

Well I backed the kickstarter to get Beta Access this time.:embarrassed:

Hadoken13 January 27th, 2016 05:43

Buying this but will not spoil it by playing the beta.

Heck I am waiting on the 2nd Pillars of Eternity expansion so I can do 1 full playthrough.

purpleblob January 27th, 2016 06:12

Wow, this sure does look amazing! Hopefully the finished product won't disappoint. Funny, while I was watching the trailer, I thought "gee, they sure give players plenty of combat feedback" (learnt something from PoE? ;))

sakichop January 27th, 2016 06:43

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Originally Posted by luj1 (Post 1061382205)
Just checked Steam

Reviews - Positive (24) - Negative (1)

So they're 24 fanboi's with low standards.;)

bjon045 January 27th, 2016 07:16

The only negative review is actually a positive one. He put it in the negative section so people would read it - what a f'ing douche.

Drithius January 27th, 2016 07:32

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Power by Pillars of Eternity Technology
…that's, uh, not exactly a selling point when it comes to pathfinding :P

Archangel January 27th, 2016 09:21

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Originally Posted by Drithius (Post 1061382221)
…that's, uh, not exactly a selling point when it comes to pathfinding :P

Pathfinding was good outside of combat and TToN is turn based during combat

Thrasher January 27th, 2016 11:06

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Originally Posted by Couchpotato (Post 1061382209)
Well I backed the kickstarter to get Beta Access this time.:embarrassed:

I was just teasing you, Couch. :)

Whatever floats your boat.

Me, I'd rather wait until it's more finished. :)

wiretripped January 27th, 2016 12:27

That trailer looks superb.

GothicGothicness January 27th, 2016 15:43

Finally this is starting to look nice :D

screeg January 27th, 2016 15:55

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Originally Posted by Couchpotato (Post 1061382189)
Torment: Tides of Numenera Early Access only costs $45 & not $80 like Wasteland 2. :biggrin:

C'mon, be fair! With WL2 you were paying for the privilege of doing Q&A for their game. Not that it seemed to make much difference in the end.

Dragonx January 27th, 2016 18:35

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Originally Posted by Archangel (Post 1061382224)
Pathfinding was good outside of combat and TToN is turn based during combat

If only Pillars of Eternity was turn based combat it would be a great game, as is the RTwP combat is just a mess and i cant finish POE once halfway through it got repetitive.

Dez January 27th, 2016 18:38

I'm happy that PoE is not a turn based game. Real time with pause works just fine thank you.

Mic January 27th, 2016 20:24

A little disappointed with the graphics. Had expected a bit more from some of the early artworks we saw. It's 2016 after all.

azarhal January 27th, 2016 20:31

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Originally Posted by Mic (Post 1061382292)
A little disappointed with the graphics. Had expected a bit more from some of the early artworks we saw. It's 2016 after all.

Art styles and budgets don't have anything to do with the year as far as I know.

Hyperion January 27th, 2016 20:37

I was never a Planescape Torment fan. I know, to the PT cult, that's blasphemy or something. I would try this out however, but not at $45. That's way too high for an early access game. That's more of a full release price.

Mic January 27th, 2016 20:39

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Originally Posted by azarhal (Post 1061382294)
Art styles and budgets don't have anything to do with the year as far as I know.

True, but hardware and graphic api's improves over the years, this game looks a bit outdated already in my opinion, after all it's a 5mill$ game.

Silver January 27th, 2016 21:19

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Originally Posted by Mic (Post 1061382297)
True, but hardware and graphic api's improves over the years, this game looks a bit outdated already in my opinion, after all it's a 5mill$ game.

Thats a barebones budget for this type of game.

Thrasher January 27th, 2016 22:12

Some folks have no concept of the costs of software development in the first world.

Moriendor January 27th, 2016 22:21

Divinity Original Sin and Pillars of Eternity were made for approximately the same ballpark budget and both are visually much more pleasing than the very bland looking Torment (IMHO).
From everything that I have seen so far, I feel that inXile definitely should have done a better job here, especially in terms of art direction, attention to detail, more atmospheric lighting and so on.
Torment leans almost more towards a Jeff Vogel game than similar RPGs like D:OS or PoE.

Thrasher January 27th, 2016 22:22

Personally, I think it looks better than both those games. It's more a matter of style for me than pixel density.

Moriendor January 27th, 2016 22:32

OK then I just have weird taste apparently :biggrin: .

you January 27th, 2016 23:00

The price of wasteland was based off of the kickstarter price for beta; like wise for this game. It is straight forward.

Moriendor January 27th, 2016 23:39

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Originally Posted by you (Post 1061382337)
The price of wasteland was based off of the kickstarter price for beta; like wise for this game. It is straight forward.

Likewise for this game how? The first Kickstarter tier that includes beta access is the $75 digital tier. Early access (beta) is $44.99.
The $20 beta access pass is only for Kickstarter backers who do not own a digital tier above the $75 mark or a physical tier above the $250 level.

To me this is very much the complete opposite of "straightforward". Why do new kids on the block get beta access for only $44.99 while KS backers who took a risk and invested in the game in 2013 need at least a $75 investment for the same privilege?

Why are physical tiers at such a strong disadvantage? The $75 vs. $250 digital vs. physical beta tier is already a little strange but it gets even more questionable when said new kids can play right away at $44.99.

So people who invest only about 16% TODAY of what others invested THREE YEARS ago get the higher access privilege.

Seriously, how is that "straightforward"?

Thrasher January 27th, 2016 23:46

Law of supply and demand, perhaps. Desperation by the devs for more funding?

Moriendor January 27th, 2016 23:57

Well, yes, early access for WL2 doubled their budget according to Fargo so I understand why they are doing it. I also understand why EA is doing a lot of things. But that doesn't mean I have to like it :) .

Corwin January 28th, 2016 00:52

Sorry, but I can't fathom why ANYONE would PAY to play a Beta!!!! I've played and tested lots of betas and usually received a FREE copy of the game as a reward and thank you for being an unpaid tester. The idea of actually paying extra to play a buggy beta leaves me speechless. I look forward to enjoying this game when it's released, but until then I have way too many other unfinished games to play!! :)

Aubrielle January 28th, 2016 01:45

Personally, and this is just me…but in my playthrough, I felt like Torment's graphics were a lot like Pillars of Eternity. I didn't feel like it was really lacking.

But again, there's no right and wrong with art…it's all subjective…it's a question of personal taste. :)

you January 28th, 2016 04:09

They had an option to buy beta as an add on for $20. So the price is lowest tier for game plus 20 or $45.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Moriendor (Post 1061382339)
Likewise for this game how? The first Kickstarter tier that includes beta access is the $75 digital tier. Early access (beta) is $44.99.
The $20 beta access pass is only for Kickstarter backers who do not own a digital tier above the $75 mark or a physical tier above the $250 level.

To me this is very much the complete opposite of "straightforward". Why do new kids on the block get beta access for only $44.99 while KS backers who took a risk and invested in the game in 2013 need at least a $75 investment for the same privilege?

Why are physical tiers at such a strong disadvantage? The $75 vs. $250 digital vs. physical beta tier is already a little strange but it gets even more questionable when said new kids can play right away at $44.99.

So people who invest only about 16% TODAY of what others invested THREE YEARS ago get the higher access privilege.

Seriously, how is that "straightforward"?


Badesumofu January 28th, 2016 11:59

As stated above. The cost of buying the game + beta access for a Kickstarter backer was either $40 or $45 depending on whether you got in in time to get the early bird price.

I don't see any issue here.

luj1 January 28th, 2016 12:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moriendor (Post 1061382326)
Divinity Original Sin and Pillars of Eternity were made for approximately the same ballpark budget and both are visually much more pleasing than the very bland looking Torment

Visually ? very subjective

To me Torment is a lot more vivid and colorful than the dead color pallete of PoE

and graphics is not where the whole budget is going. I don't think its even a priority in Torment

Lets not get DOS into this , as that's a game where you can accept a quest from a sea clamp which discredits it completely :P


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