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Damian December 31st, 2016 09:59

A From software gem that you probably never heard of, Lost Kingdoms 2
 
This game got harsh reviews on metacritic from mainstream reviewer but it really is an excellent game.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/gamec…st-kingdoms-ii


Normally i get put off by having to play a female character in a game but not this one because the game is so good that it transcended those normal barriers for me. I played the original too but it isnt as good as this one.

The game successfully melds card games like Magic the Gathering and RPG's. Unlike the first one that had random battle all the enemies were on the same screen as you fight them aswell as going from place to place. Its also a "realtime" game

There are cards you attack with, cards that morphs you, cards that you summon and instant cards. On top of that you can combine up to 4 cards to do a combination. Cards and the character level up as you go through the game. Card then morph into stronger ones once you get a high enough level with them i believe(its been a while since i played this). It also has 2 endings i think.

The main downside is that it isnt very long, about 10 hours to beat. Hopefully well see this gem on the steam store or on the Nintendo switch virtual console, fingers crossed.

Elel December 31st, 2016 17:30

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Originally Posted by Damian (Post 1061428824)
Normally i get put off by having to play a female character in a game

Adding to the ignore list. What else can be expected of a Trump supporter *rolls eyes*.

CelticFrost December 31st, 2016 17:54

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Originally Posted by Elel (Post 1061428860)
Adding to the ignore list. What else can be expected of a Trump supporter *rolls eyes*.

So a question to you?

If giving the choice do you pick a male or female character?

I don't support Trump but given the choice I play a male character always.

Please add me to your ignore list as well if I am not already on it.

Damian December 31st, 2016 19:12

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Originally Posted by Elel (Post 1061428860)
Adding to the ignore list. What else can be expected of a Trump supporter *rolls eyes*.

So its not true for women as well? I think very few people can do that, so good on you for that. Some of my friends play female characters because they are "good to look at" with names like "dirty slapper" and dress them as provocatively as possible, which seem like some form of objectification. There is the one friend that treats his female character with respect but he plays for variety and doesnt really care if they are male or female, i guess you fall into that category?

I think one of the reasons why the female gamer population dwindled in the SNES to PS2 eras was the the fact that there were very little amount of games with female leads, because females couldnt relate to the characters. In the NES era, characters were just a block of pixels so it didnt matter too much.

But if that makes me a bad person so be it, I guess.

joxer December 31st, 2016 20:08

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A From software gem
Excuse me? It's yet another phonegame rubbish. If it wasn't, it'd be released on PC.

wolfgrimdark December 31st, 2016 20:52

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Adding to the ignore list. What else can be expected of a Trump supporter *rolls eyes*.
I am also very much not a Trump supporter but I always play male characters as well simply because I prefer them.

If all it takes to get added to your ignore list is not wanting to play a female character in a game … then guess you need to add me to it as well.

Damian December 31st, 2016 21:22

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Originally Posted by CelticFrost (Post 1061428868)
So a question to you?

If giving the choice do you pick a male or female character?

I don't support Trump but given the choice I play a male character always.

Please add me to your ignore list as well if I am not already on it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfgrimdark (Post 1061428887)
I am also very much not a Trump supporter but I always play male characters as well simply because I prefer them.

If all it takes to get added to your ignore list is not wanting to play a female character in a game … then guess you need to add me to it as well.


I think also i would play a non pretty female lead aswell. I think the reverse is true for women, they dont like playing ugly women and even less ugly men. For example less than 10% of dark souls players are female in any age bracket of reddit users.
https://i.imgur.com/PCsfr1M.jpg
While no definitive because it is just from reddit users, it still a difference of a factor of more than 3 at the time this survey was done(though reddit claims split of 53M/47F i dont believe that).

I think the best bet for a game is to have a "pretty boy" as the lead in the west(i have no idea about the east and i am not going to try at this point). Which is why the Final Fantasy franchise has been so successful among women and for the most part men too:
FF6: Female Lead
FF7: pretty boy
FF8: pretty boy
FF9: cute rat male lead
FFX: pretty boy
FFX2: All female party
FF11: MMO
FF12: pretty boy
FF13: Female lead
FF13-2: pretty boy
FF13LR: Female lead
FF14: MMO
FF15: pretty boys

Would be interesting to see among other RPGs.

JDR13 December 31st, 2016 22:08

Don't feel bad guys. I've been on Elel's ignore list ever since I said one of the female characters on Game of Thrones was hot or something like that. Not sure what her issue is…

Regarding From Software, they actually have quite a few gems from back in the PS1-PS2 days. The King's Field series, Shadow Tower, and Eternal Ring were all pretty good imo. King's Field 1&2 were especially great for their time. They were the first true 3D open-world RPGs I played.

Damian December 31st, 2016 22:13

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Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061428895)
Don't feel bad guys. I've been on Elel's ignore list ever since I said one of the female characters on Game of Thrones was hot or something like that. Not sure what her issue is…

Regarding From Software, they actually have quite a few gems from back in the PS1-PS2 days. The King's Field series, Shadow Tower, and Eternal Ring were all pretty good imo. King's Field 1&2 were especially great for their time. They were the first true 3D open-world RPGs I played.

Yeah those games were great until i got stuck and in those days i didnt have a pc so i cant check a forum for a clue or something.

Lucky Day December 31st, 2016 22:15

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Originally Posted by Elel (Post 1061428860)
Adding to the ignore list. What else can be expected of a Trump supporter *rolls eyes*.

Adding to my "can't read" list. :roll:

wolfing January 1st, 2017 01:19

I can play male or female no problem whatsoever, but I do draw a line on mascot-type characters. I try to imagine some semblance of belieavability but Japanese fixation with adding mascot/talking animals as party members irks me to no end (and I do love JRPGs).

Ivanwah January 1st, 2017 02:19

I was going to write a sarcastic 'you sexist pig' comment, but elel ruined it for me :( I just like how this thread quickly turned into a discussion that hqs nothing to do with the original post…

CelticFrost January 1st, 2017 03:17

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Originally Posted by Ivanwah (Post 1061428910)
I was going to write a sarcastic 'you sexist pig' comment, but elel ruined it for me :( I just like how this thread quickly turned into a discussion that hqs nothing to do with the original post…

and your comments including "you sexist pig" added so much.

Damian January 1st, 2017 03:25

I kinda go where the winds direct me. :p

Ivanwah January 1st, 2017 03:40

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Originally Posted by CelticFrost (Post 1061428917)
and your comments including "you sexist pig" added so much.

It wasn't going to be only that, I was genuinely intrigued by this game since I wanted to try some card games for some time now.

SpoonFULL January 1st, 2017 04:44

While I don't have anything against consoles (I have a PS3), I just hate the concept of games or gems from From Software being tied to specific hardware and gets lost in time - very sad. (I can't find them on UK playstation store).

Damian January 1st, 2017 05:01

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Originally Posted by Ivanwah (Post 1061428923)
It wasn't going to be only that, I was genuinely intrigued by this game since I wanted to try some card games for some time now.

Its probably best to wait for From to release these games on steam. Working with the emulator on pc was very laborius to fix the settings in a way that makes the controller work right and and the keyboard defaults on the emulator are awful. This game really does deserve a rerelease on Steam.

I am hoping the game gets on on the Nintendo switch on virtual console and is successful enough so that From gets the idea to release it on steam, possibly even make a sequel.

bjon045 January 1st, 2017 05:01

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Originally Posted by Elel (Post 1061428860)
Adding to the ignore list. What else can be expected of a Trump supporter *rolls eyes*.

The only time I ever create female characters in my party is for a healer role. Add me to your ignore list as well.

Ivanwah January 1st, 2017 05:07

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Originally Posted by Damian (Post 1061428927)
Its probably best to wait for From to release these games on steam. Working with the emulator on pc was very laborius to fix the settings in a way that makes the controller work right and and the keyboard defaults on the emulator are awful. This game really does deserve a rerelease on Steam.

I am hoping the game gets on on the Nintendo switch on virtual console and is successful enough so that From gets the idea to release it on steam, possibly even make a sequel.

Yeah, I don't bother emulating anything newer than PS1 or N64, and I was sad to see this is a GC game. I know it's off topic but can you recommend a PC card game, possibly mixed with RPG elements?

Damian January 1st, 2017 05:23

The newest one is Hand of Fate, it has very positive reviews. Another excellent one is Etherlords 1&2, while technically a strategy game is has cards and RPG elements, combat is like playing a magic the gathering battle pretty much.


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