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Silver June 4th, 2017 02:29

Kingmaker - Interview with Chris Avellone
 
Facebook has an interview with Chris Avellone about Pathfinder: Kingmaker.

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We have gathered the community's most burning questions for Chris about his involvement with Pathfinder: Kingmaker and his thoughts about the Pathfinder universe. Enjoy!
What draws you to the Pathfinder universe?
A few things. The adventure path format (it feels very open-world - go out, explore, find cool things and encounters, and they embrace this in their design), the setting, and the art style, including the iconic characters… I like their character designs very much, and I think Pathfinder is one system that has done a great job in capturing the look and feel of their archetypes and classes.
Which character do you play in tabletop Pathfinder?
In the card game, I usually go with Seoni, Lini, or Lim. In the last Pathfinder game (and this is why I love the system so much), I played a gnome wizard (mostly illusions) con artist who "headed" a band of Ocean's 11-style thieves (the other players) to pull off heists. I use the term "headed" loosely. We usually got into more trouble than we succeeded, but we had a blast.
Can you tell us about your favourite iconic character?
Even though I usually play other iconic characters, I like Ezren's backstory the most because it felt unconventional for a wizard, and I liked his persistence and his willingness to shift the course of his life to follow what he believed in.

Why did you choose Kingmaker as the setting for the CRPG? Why the River Kingdoms?
It was the decision made before I came on the project (work had already begun using Kingmaker, and the companions were fleshed out as well - usually biographies and arcs). That said, I don't have any issues with the setting or the adventure path at all, I think it was a good choice (further confirmed by fan feedback).
I like the Kingmaker adventure path, it makes for an interesting computer role-playing game, the Stolen Lands are a perfect place for building a kingdom from scratch, and even better, the adventure path format gives Owlcat and I "breathing room" to add more narrative and quests without disrupting the classic adventure path itself (for players that know it and love the adventure path, they'll find plenty of the same characters, areas, and situations, but often with an added element we've been able to bring to it on the developer side).
The Kingmaker Adventure Path has its own story. How faithful will the plot of the CRPG be to the AP? Should we prepare for any surprise twists?
Players familiar with the adventure path will be pleased at seeing many of the characters and setting from the pen-and-paper version of Kingmaker, and while there are some changes, I think players will be pleasantly surprised by how these changes complement the existing material - especially the companion interactions and the ways companions interact with some of the elements of the Kingmaker plot.
Pathfinder: Kingmaker rewards exploration
Outside of the main plotline, will there be plenty of side quests?
Yes - it's one of the pillars of Pathfinder to reward exploration, and side quests are a large part of that.
Are we going to encounter iconic characters? Maybe even as companions for our party?
Yes, one of the Pathfinder iconic characters, Amiri, can join your party in Pathfinder. She has some of the best lines in the game so far, and it's no surprise - she's fun to write for.
Everybody needs a little love, right? Can we have relationships with our companions?
Yes, but not just romance (just romance is limiting). The companions are with you for a reason, and that reason may change based on your actions - for good or for ill, and they'll pay attention to your behavior and act accordingly.
Your companions will react to your actions
Being the hero may be fun, but we all know the dark side has cookies. Will there be possibilities to be really, despicably evil?
Yes. And cruel. And cunning. I generally find "smart" evil (ex: talking two enemies into killing each other) to be more fun than demanding more money as a quest reward or being a mass-murderer.
Will our decisions and actions have an impact on the world? Does the story offer replay value, offer different outcomes and endings depending on how we play?
Yes, it's one of the hallmarks of an RPG, and Kingmaker is no different. We'd like players to play it more than once and get a different experience each time. The companion arcs alone have several options that are shaped throughout the game, and that means the story can change considerably depending on your party composition.
How much creative freedom will we get with quests? Will most of our problems be solved with the sword or will there be alternate, more unorthodox solutions like in tabletop?
Speech and diplomacy (especially in your role in ruling your kingdom) are part of your arsenal, both in the court and on the battlefield. Of course, swordplay is still an option, but you may find other ways to achieve your goals with much different results.
Will companions react to our choices? Let's say one of our companions is really good, but we keep making evil decisions. Would that companion eventually leave or even betray us?
Yes, alignment clashes (and acting against the principles a companion upholds) would cause them to lose faith in you, leave, or even turn on you. They aren't simply walking backpacks and stats, they have their own personalities and things they hold dear.
This interview was made for owlcatgames.com

More information.

Darkheart June 4th, 2017 06:41

This all sounds pretty good. Let's hope they can deliver. I would love a proper modern D&D RPG.

Morrandir June 4th, 2017 10:19

That all sounds predictable. ;)
I guess that's a good thing.

Saxon1974 June 4th, 2017 18:44

Interested just wish it weren't RTWP

luj1 June 4th, 2017 20:09

Sounds like it's companion-driven. Wonder how that will turn out.

purpleblob June 5th, 2017 02:03

This is exactly what I would love if done well! Looking forward to see future updates :)

SpoonFULL June 5th, 2017 10:25

I think that they will start their Kickstarter on the 7th of June.

Archangel June 5th, 2017 11:22

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Originally Posted by SpoonFULL (Post 1061454052)
I think that they will start their Kickstarter on the 7th of June.

I hope the pitch is good, I would like to be part of it but I am not as open to everything like I was before (already skipped PoE 2 and WL3 due to their past games not being good enough)

TomRon June 5th, 2017 12:09

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Originally Posted by Archangel (Post 1061454054)
I hope the pitch is good, I would like to be part of it but I am not as open to everything like I was before (already skipped PoE 2 and WL3 due to their past games not being good enough)

Funny, I backed both of those instantly because of the opposite, I thought they were good enough. PoE has a lot of room for improvement though, but I really enjoyed WL2 (currently replaying WL2 DC and having a blast).

I'm a lot more sceptical these days to unknown developers though.

azarhal June 5th, 2017 13:31

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Originally Posted by SpoonFULL (Post 1061454052)
I think that they will start their Kickstarter on the 7th of June.

A huge publisher like My.Com is going to run a kickstarter???

lol

Archangel June 5th, 2017 14:34

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Originally Posted by azarhal (Post 1061454074)
A huge publisher like My.Com is going to run a kickstarter???

lol

Nope. My.com gave them enough money to finish a version of the game. They are going to run a KS to make a bigger and better version and to prove there is interest in such a game. I would bet My.com will give them more $ if KS is fairly successful.

Wisdom June 5th, 2017 18:38

If the kickstarter even mentions anyone associated with Scam of the Avatar I'm out.

rjshae June 5th, 2017 23:05

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Originally Posted by SpoonFULL (Post 1061454052)
I think that they will start their Kickstarter on the 7th of June.

I'm a little skeptical of anything coming out of Russia these days. But I'll wait and see what they have to present.

luj1 June 6th, 2017 00:23

Rusophobia running strong in the veins of hipsters :D

rjshae June 6th, 2017 04:22

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Originally Posted by luj1 (Post 1061454204)
Rusophobia running strong in the veins of hipsters :D

My aren't you the witty one.

It's spelled "Russophobia".

BoboTheMighty June 6th, 2017 04:40

Sounds a bit…generic. I'm sure our brothers at Codex are rolling like little piglets in haystack though.

bizorker June 6th, 2017 05:00

Is this a well known dev group? I haven't heard of them, but that doesn't mean much. Have they made other RPGs?

Silver June 6th, 2017 05:47

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Originally Posted by bizorker (Post 1061454234)
Is this a well known dev group? I haven't heard of them, but that doesn't mean much. Have they made other RPGs?

Owlcat developers have worked on the following games:
Rage of Mages II (1998)
Evil Islands (2000)
Etherlords (2001)
Silent Storm (2003)
HoMM V (2006)
Allods Online (2010)
Skyforge (2015)

Archangel June 6th, 2017 08:58

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Originally Posted by BoboTheMighty (Post 1061454232)
Sounds a bit…generic. I'm sure our brothers at Codex are rolling like little piglets in haystack though.

#1 Some are complaining it is not turn based
#2 Some are complaining Avellone is again not going to be involved much
#3 Some are complaining art is too generic
#4 And usual suspects are complaining about SJWs

NewDArt June 6th, 2017 10:16

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Originally Posted by Silver (Post 1061454235)
Owlcat developers have worked on the following games:
Rage of Mages II (1998)
Evil Islands (2000)
Etherlords (2001)
Silent Storm (2003)
HoMM V (2006)
Allods Online (2010)
Skyforge (2015)

Agh, that doesn't bode well at all.

Silver June 6th, 2017 11:57

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Originally Posted by NewDArt (Post 1061454255)
Agh, that doesn't bode well at all.

That resume says bit part players to me as well. Hopefully they are capable of much more with a decent designer/narrative lead at the helm. That is if Chris Avellone is very much invested. If he is bit part as well I think I will wait and see.

BoboTheMighty June 6th, 2017 12:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver (Post 1061454235)
Owlcat developers have worked on the following games:
Rage of Mages II (1998)
Evil Islands (2000)
Etherlords (2001)
Silent Storm (2003)
HoMM V (2006)
Allods Online (2010)
Skyforge (2015)

Impressive list of never-heard-of-it-before titles. Do we have Vogel's recap on this? :P

NewDArt June 6th, 2017 12:47

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Originally Posted by BoboTheMighty (Post 1061454276)
Impressive list of never-heard-of-it-before titles. Do we have Vogel's recap on this? :P

I've played them all - and most of them are mediocre at best - and they pretty much all suffer from crappy execution.

Even Silent Storm was one sloppy piece of software.

joxer June 6th, 2017 13:02

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Originally Posted by BoboTheMighty (Post 1061454276)
Impressive list of never-heard-of-it-before titles. Do we have Vogel's recap on this? :P

All are heard of. Not for being superb stuff though.
Last two titles they worked on are crappy MMOs.

Myrthos June 6th, 2017 13:16

Aren't the first five, strategy games with RPG elements in them?

joxer June 6th, 2017 13:17

Etherlords is TCG (or perhaps better to say CCG).

NewDArt June 6th, 2017 13:21

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Originally Posted by Myrthos (Post 1061454292)
Aren't the first five, strategy games with RPG elements in them?

Rage of Mages II (1998)

RPG/RTS hybrid (50/50)

Evil Islands (2000)

RPG/RTS hybrid (more RPG than RTS)

Etherlords (2001)

TBS/RPG Hybrid (Magic the Gathering inspired tactical combat game)

Silent Storm (2003)

TBS/RPG (Mostly TBS)

HoMM V (2006)

TBS/RPG (Mostly TBS)

Archangel June 6th, 2017 14:10

So basically they got plenty of experience making games similar to what they are making now. We just hope this time it is going to be of bigger production quality (although HoMM V was fun and of decent production quality).

Archangel June 6th, 2017 21:53

I see there is still no news that this KS has started few hours ago…

SpoonFULL June 6th, 2017 22:15

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Originally Posted by Archangel (Post 1061454398)
I see there is still no news that this KS has started few hours ago…

Thanks for the news - backed!

TomRon June 6th, 2017 23:05

Pledged.

rune_74 June 7th, 2017 01:31

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Originally Posted by BoboTheMighty (Post 1061454276)
Impressive list of never-heard-of-it-before titles. Do we have Vogel's recap on this? :P

How have you not heard of silent storm….awesome game…


Edit: Pledged

Stingray June 7th, 2017 02:37

Silent Storm is pretty solid credentials in my book, probably the best game of its sort since JA2.

JDR13 June 7th, 2017 02:51

I thought about pledging, but I'm going to hold off for now. I've never played the Pathfinder PnP game, but it looks extremely derivative of D&D.

The thing that gives me pause about this though is the art style. It looks overly cartoony to me in both the monster design and color palette. It doesn't seem to be bothering anyone else, but I'm not a fan of that style at all.

crpgnut June 7th, 2017 02:56

I enjoyed Evil Islands quite a bit, but I think Avellone is highly overrated.

purpleblob June 7th, 2017 03:06

I'm not a big fan of art either but it doesn't bother me that much. I never pledge KS project though - I'm more of a "I will pay once I see the end product" person.

Stingray June 7th, 2017 03:09

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Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061454448)
I thought about pledging, but I'm going to hold off for now. I've never played the Pathfinder PnP game, but it looks extremely derivative of D&D.

That's the point, it's a continuation of D&D 3.5.

rune_74 June 7th, 2017 03:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061454448)
I thought about pledging, but I'm going to hold off for now. I've never played the Pathfinder PnP game, but it looks extremely derivative of D&D.

The thing that gives me pause about this though is the art style. It looks overly cartoony to me in both the monster design and color palette. It doesn't seem to be bothering anyone else, but I'm not a fan of that style at all.

Well it should. It was a spin off from D&D when they went to a more modern approach, they stayed more complicated….

luj1 June 7th, 2017 05:12

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Originally Posted by Silver (Post 1061454272)
Hopefully they are capable of much more with a decent designer/narrative lead at the helm.


Don't worry, we will get 2 companions written by MCA :D

bizorker June 7th, 2017 06:25

I'm having a sword coast legends flashback. Great rule set and setting but poor dev talent. I'm holding out hope but we will see. Why are the D&D and Pathfinder licenses going to these relatively obscure dev / publisher teams?


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