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lostforever December 5th, 2017 14:55

Monster Hunter World
 
If you have PS4, you can play the beta this weekend. The game is also coming to PC as well.

The game looks really nice so worth a shot I guess.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20…ter-world-beta

joxer December 5th, 2017 15:01

It's MMO disguised into SP/MP hybrid just to make more sales (or more microtransactions).

Not touching.

ChienAboyeur December 6th, 2017 20:25

Nope. It is a new iteration in the Monster hunter franchise, which is a balanced mix of various features.
But it is pattern based combat.

Damian December 7th, 2017 05:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061484357)
It's MMO disguised into SP/MP hybrid just to make more sales (or more microtransactions).

Not touching.

They didnt put loot boxes in the game based on fan responses. At least that is good.

joxer January 29th, 2018 17:15

I'm seeing daily tons of articles about this thing.

Call me paranoic, but the whole bombardment from sites feels like seeing Destiny, For Honor, Division, etc hype all over again. Hyping mediocrity or even worse, but not worth spending a dime on.

I was pretty negative about this product since news started as no article was sincere. But these "fresh" unavoidable spam/clickbait articles make me even more suspicious about it's quality.
Of course there will always be positive comments from people who's motto is "I bought this thus it's good even if it's not", but I'll just sit back and wait for impressions from some reviewer I trust that won't blindly praise just anything while deliberately keeping silence on shortcomings. Basically, I need a YouTube review from TB, AJ or JS.

P.S. It's not PB game so AJ's opinion should be valid in this case.

SirJames January 29th, 2018 19:57

Monster Hunter World is developed and published by CAPCOM; the legendary developer who has not only been building games since 1979 but also building the hardware for them.

They are extremely talented! No developer understands gameplay better because Capcom pretty much invented good gameplay. They've made hundreds of games. They're a big deal. MHW is a big deal. (It has sold 5M copies in 3 days)

They also made Dragons Dogma.

We're in a pretty fortunate situation here. We have the Dark Souls PC petition to thank for Dragons Dogma, and the good reception and decent sales of DD on PC to thank for the PC release of MHW. PC is finally getting the big console exclusives and even running them with better graphics and performance.

I've never played a Monster Hunter game but Dragons Dogma would have made a fantastic co-op game and I've hunted monsters in that, so this will likely be a day one purchase for me with its 4 player co-op.

Metacritic review quotes http://www.metacritic.com/game/plays…critic-reviews

you January 29th, 2018 23:32

I hope the PC interface (kb/m) is better in this game than Dragon Dogma. It was playable in Dragon Dogma (unlike dark soul) but not great.

joxer January 30th, 2018 00:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirJames (Post 1061491296)
Monster Hunter World is developed and published by CAPCOM; the legendary developer who has not only been building games since 1979 but also building the hardware for them.

Never heard of it.

wolfing January 30th, 2018 00:53

I saw all the hype, I saw a video, saw it was a twitch game, stopped caring about it.

sakichop January 30th, 2018 01:58

I’m interested and am in a wait and see mode.

ChienAboyeur January 30th, 2018 14:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061491276)
I was pretty negative about this product since news started as no article was sincere. But these "fresh" unavoidable spam/clickbait articles make me even more suspicious about it's quality.
Of course there will always be positive comments from people who's motto is "I bought this thus it's good even if it's not", but I'll just sit back and wait for impressions from some reviewer I trust that won't blindly praise just anything while deliberately keeping silence on shortcomings. Basically, I need a YouTube review from TB, AJ or JS.

P.S. It's not PB game so AJ's opinion should be valid in this case.

PC version is to release in Autumn.
It is a pattern game a la DS.
It is also a crew game: SP has little interest on its own (except as a way for newcomers to learn how to play)
It demands quality partners as the runs can be easily spoilt (drops only happen when monsters are killed the proper way, lifes are pooled etc)

joxer January 30th, 2018 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChienAboyeur (Post 1061491389)
DS

Never heard.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChienAboyeur (Post 1061491389)
It is also a crew game

Then no buy from me. I already have a crew in Legaue of Legends, won't pay for yet another LoLkiller wannabe with artificial hype, I mean, when was the last time you saw agressive LoL advertisments?

Monster Hunter: World has already outsold every other game in the series:
https://www.pcgamesn.com/monster-hun…-sales-numbers

JDR13 January 30th, 2018 15:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061491331)
Never heard of it.

If we start talking about ice cream, are you going to say you've never heard of it?

azarhal January 30th, 2018 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061491397)
Monster Hunter: World has already outsold every other game in the series:
https://www.pcgamesn.com/monster-hun…-sales-numbers

Not too surprising. Monster Hunter was basically a 3DS series (first two also released on PS2, but that is it) before Monster Hunter World.

joxer January 30th, 2018 15:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061491399)
If we start talking about ice cream, are you going to say you've never heard of it?

Don't be ridiculous, everyone heard of ice cream:

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Carnifex January 30th, 2018 17:02

What the heck is a crew game?? I'm aware of a haircut with that name, does it mean all the characters have a certain hair style?

wolfing January 31st, 2018 00:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carnifex (Post 1061491416)
What the heck is a crew game?? I'm aware of a haircut with that name, does it mean all the characters have a certain hair style?

I'm guessing it's online co-op.

ChienAboyeur January 31st, 2018 13:44

It is already explained.

MH demands a crew: that is a group of players who are skilled and accept the terms of gameplay.

Going to fish for a team among the online community is doomed to fail: with the US american inherited supremacist mindset that is spreading, people try to force their options on others.
People who do not like a product play it to try to change it.

A run in MH is easy to spoil, get one of those american spirit players in a team and it is readily over. Guy will make everything possible to ruin it as he can not bear the idea the product is not meant for him.

Once again, MH is extremelly vulnerable to that mindset. Up to the point since this episode is a jump into the western market, it might the last MH episode true to the series.

fadedc January 31st, 2018 19:19

I've played a lot of the Monster Hunter games and I've never done any multiplayer. I don't even think multiplayer even existed in the first one I played. I enjoyed playing it solo and I never had the impression that the game's focus was on playing with others, or that I was missing out on anything by not doing so.

sakichop January 31st, 2018 19:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChienAboyeur (Post 1061491505)
It is already explained.

MH demands a crew: that is a group of players who are skilled and accept the terms of gameplay.

Going to fish for a team among the online community is doomed to fail: with the US american inherited supremacist mindset that is spreading, people try to force their options on others.
People who do not like a product play it to try to change it.

A run in MH is easy to spoil, get one of those american spirit players in a team and it is readily over. Guy will make everything possible to ruin it as he can not bear the idea the product is not meant for him.

Once again, MH is extremelly vulnerable to that mindset. Up to the point since this episode is a jump into the western market, it might the last MH episode true to the series.

Can someone move this post to joxers bs of the week thread.

It’s a toss up wether you know less about games or americans.

SirJames January 31st, 2018 20:27

Actually, one of the complaints I have heard was that its much easier solo than with a party/crew due to difficulty scaling.

Also heard that it uses the same engine as Dragon's Dogma and Dead Rising which might help you predict your performance.

joxer January 31st, 2018 21:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakichop (Post 1061491556)
Can someone move this post to joxers bs of the week thread.

It’s a toss up wether you know less about games or americans.

Yea, I was like wtf reading that statement.
Had to reread it out of disbelief, it's completely wrong. Maybe it's based on some small scope of streamers. He'd sing another song if he ever played League of Legends and felt some real multiplayer game community.

you January 31st, 2018 23:36

Hum. This is mostly an online game - yuck.

Carnifex February 1st, 2018 00:53

Well if it is indeed online garbage, thanks for the heads-up and I'll be steering clear of this one.

JDR13 February 1st, 2018 10:24

"Online" doesn't mean much nowadays. A lot of games require an internet connection even for single-player. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it just because you see that word.

Pongo February 1st, 2018 14:04

Is this basically a really colourful Dark Souls? Cos I'd be totally in if that's the case.

ChienAboyeur February 1st, 2018 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirJames (Post 1061491565)
Actually, one of the complaints I have heard was that its much easier solo than with a party/crew due to difficulty scaling.

No. Difficulty does not scale with the number of involved players past one:
it remains the same as soon as two or more players are involved.

The difficulty is set on the same level for two, three or four players.

Running with a hunting party of three other players who know how to play and accept the gameplay terms is not more difficult.

It turns out way more difficult when players are unreliable and display the peculiar mindset: they do not like the game, they feel aggressed the game was not meant for them so they are going to spoil the game.
It is the same mindset exhibited when UgoIgo players go out for what is known a RT product and demand it to be UgoIgo.

Indeed, it is much more difficult to run with this kind of players than alone.
For example, lifes are pooled, a party can stack up to three deaths. Once it is reached, the hunt is over.

One player with the proper mindset, feeling the game is shit because it was not meant to match his tastes and the guy will keep dying to ruin the run.

There are other openings. That is why it might be the last MH that is true to the franchise. The devs are not that used to that kind of invasive, destructive mindset and will have to cope with it. It might end in transforming deeply the franchise.

ChienAboyeur February 1st, 2018 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by fadedc (Post 1061491554)
I enjoyed playing it solo and I never had the impression that the game's focus was on playing with others, or that I was missing out on anything by not doing so.

Probably missing that it was designed to be played with other players.

fadedc February 1st, 2018 16:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pongo (Post 1061491688)
Is this basically a really colourful Dark Souls? Cos I'd be totally in if that's the case.

Hmm….I'm not sure if I'd describe it like that. In some ways it's kind of it's own genre. But I could see some overlap between people who like Dark Souls and people who like Monster Hunter, especially with the epic boss fights and focus on gameplay over story. It is definitely less punishing though.

And yeah it should go without saying, but you should take what Chien says about the game being only for online multiplayer with a serious grain of salt.

Pongo February 1st, 2018 16:52

Thanks fadedc. I'm playing through a load of turn based story heavy games at the minute and this sounds like it might be a nice change of pace later on this year! I'll keep an eye on it.

basharran February 1st, 2018 18:30

Why don't they do a simultaneous PC version release? Does anyone know? Just feels strange to take over a half year to do "some optimisations".

Carnifex February 1st, 2018 18:35

That is an excellent question, I've often wondered that myself. Could be just sheer laziness, or perhaps an attempt at double dipping later in the shelf life of the product, probably neither of those guesses are correct.

you February 1st, 2018 18:55

Might be waiting on reception prior to investing in the 'port' ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by basharran (Post 1061491715)
Why don't they do a simultaneous PC version release? Does anyone know? Just feels strange to take over a half year to do "some optimisations".


sakichop February 1st, 2018 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by basharran (Post 1061491715)
Why don't they do a simultaneous PC version release? Does anyone know? Just feels strange to take over a half year to do "some optimisations".

Probably a combination of piracy concerns and inexperience with PC platform.

firetiger June 24th, 2019 03:12

They added a new expansion DLC with Iceborne. I kinda enjoy Monster Hunter World but it feels like a child's play compared to Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate. The grinding in MHGU is insane and it doesn't spoon-feed the players.

realswashed August 7th, 2019 06:10

One thing I never liked about any Monster Hunter game is how long it takes to beat any Monster. You could be 10 minutes into the game and it would take you 20-30 minutes to defeat one. You could be 200 hours in and it would take you the same amount of time. For a game that gives you big upgrades for your efforts, they are fairly useless upgrades. Just different names and values for each item.

Nathaniel3W August 10th, 2019 08:03

So Monster Hunter World is 50% off on Steam right now. And I've been interested in playing the game. But I don't like multiplayer games. I don't like games where my enjoyment and progress in the game depend on my interaction with someone else, or how well or poorly someone else plays the game.

So can Monster Hunter World be played as a single-player game? If hunting monsters requires a party, how does matchmaking work? Is it like an MMO where there are always other people wanting to hunt the same monster?

SirJames August 10th, 2019 08:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathaniel3W (Post 1061578042)
So Monster Hunter World is 50% off on Steam right now. And I've been interested in playing the game. But I don't like multiplayer games. I don't like games where my enjoyment and progress in the game depend on my interaction with someone else, or how well or poorly someone else plays the game.

So can Monster Hunter World be played as a single-player game? If hunting monsters requires a party, how does matchmaking work? Is it like an MMO where there are always other people wanting to hunt the same monster?

I've now played over 800 hours since launch. I think I'm qualified to answer this question!

Yes, you can play solo.

I believe the crossover content from Final Fantasy and Witcher 3 (Extreme Behemoth and Ancient Leshen) don't scale to solo, so these two limited events are best done with a group. The base event (normal Behemoth and Leshen) can be done solo. The Witcher 3 quest MUST be done solo. Only the Ancient Leshen can be done as a group. (They're only available after you've beaten the main storyline.)

Matchmaking is all done at a signpost or NPC in town. Your options are:

Start a quest
Join a quest
Join an SOS

If you start a quest you can fire an SOS flare in game which will allow other players to join your hunt.

Join a quest only joins quests made by people in your lobby; even if they don't fire an SOS.

Join an SOS gives you a list of hunts to join where the host fired an SOS flare.

(If you start in Offline mode only Start a quest will be available.)
(You can make a private online lobby)

purpleblob August 10th, 2019 11:59

I prefer playing games alone too but MHW is a rare exception for me - I'm actually having a lot of fun playing this my husband. That being said, it's better to stick with someone you know than some random people off the net, they tend to rush in without much tactics and get themselves killed - and usually after 3 faints (group wide), the quest counts as fail and you won't get any rewards (purely a waste of time).

Carnifex August 10th, 2019 15:37

The multi-player/online aspects have had a lot to do with why I've not picked up Monster Hunter as of yet. Honestly, if it were simply a full-on single player game, I would have likely already acquired it by now.


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