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Silver March 22nd, 2018 20:42

Cyberpunk 2077 - No Multiplayer At Launch
 
PCGamesN reports that Cyberpunk 2077 will have no multiplayer at launch.

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Kiciński confirmed that the game would not have any multiplayer at launch, stating “first of all we’re going to deliver players a huge, story-driven role-playing game for a single player,” likening the release to that of 2015’s The Witcher 3. He said he didn’t want to comment on any further expansions, but said that “we already said in the past that we wanted our future projects to integrate online components at some point.”

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More information.

henriquejr March 22nd, 2018 21:16

Yes, mr. Kicinski, go finish and polish the single player campaign first. Leave multiplayer for later. Waaay later if you can.

joxer March 22nd, 2018 22:22

Years later please if anyhow possible so I don't live to see it.

Dunno why or how, but reading stuff like this just makes me happy.
Remember those days when EA CEO bulshitted that all their games have to integrate MMO junk inside? Hopefully those dark ages are gone.

Carnifex March 22nd, 2018 23:28

I see subject titles like this, it reads for me thusly: "We actually care and focus on single player games that don't waste funds on things that people don't care about". So, I'm a fan of these folks!

ChaosTheory March 22nd, 2018 23:32

Any word on VR compatibility?

ToddMcF2002 March 23rd, 2018 01:15

never works too

six March 23rd, 2018 02:16

Good news as far as I am concerned.
Maybe multiplayer experience would even turn out great without stalling the whole game another year now.

Couchpotato March 23rd, 2018 02:43

Good I was worried after news last year this game might be another service game.

I mean the following.
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In video gaming, games as a service (abbreviated GaaS) represents providing video games or game content on a continuing revenue model, similar to software as a service. Games as a service are ways to monetize video games either after their initial sale, or to support a free-to-play model.

Zloth March 23rd, 2018 03:37

Maybe let that new studio do the multiplayer part? No need to finish for a year or three after release.

Stahl33 March 23rd, 2018 04:35

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 1061497214)
Any word on VR compatibility?

Good Question! I am hoping to get into VR at some point soon.

I have no concerns with multiplayer or online games…. As long as it is not to the detriment of the single player game. I would imagine that there could be a smooth interface / interaction between the 2 (In fact I have a lot of ideas on how to do it!)

yllaettaevaet March 23rd, 2018 06:18

From my experience: Multiplayer as an afterthought does either not work, or is not successful in terms of player numbers, or, most likely, does not even happen.

I fixed the headline:
Cyberpunk 2077 - No Multiplayer - yllaettaevaet does not care

DarNoor March 23rd, 2018 11:36

Great news!

azarhal March 23rd, 2018 13:32

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Originally Posted by Zloth (Post 1061497242)
Maybe let that new studio do the multiplayer part? No need to finish for a year or three after release.

Multiplayer was mentioned way back in 2012-2013 as being a feature of the game and they got money from the Polish government in late 2016 for "researching" multiplayer for Cyberpunk.

It sound more like they couldn't achieve what they wanted and dropped the feature to me, so I doubt there will be any multiplayer in Cyberpunk2077 now Reading another translation, he actually doesn't say no multiplayer, he says that the game is focused on story heavy single player RPG and that it will not have any big multiplayer feature at release. That translation sound more like there will be some form of multiplayer feature that they want to expend post-release.

joxer March 23rd, 2018 17:21

There is another smallletters thing that skipped many newsbits:
https://www.pcgamesn.com/next-witcher-game

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The report (the relevant parts of which can be found on page 26) states that “in the 2017-2021 timeframe” the company are looking to release Cyberpunk 2077 as well as “another triple-A story-driven RPG.”
So it's not only CP.
Now I have to make sure I don't die in next three years. Damn.

[EDIT]
CP needs funds, right? Well, these funds are coming from TW3 sales:
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/the-w…2016-and-2017/
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https://www.dsogaming.com/wp-content…018/03/1-1.jpg

“This diagram shows two important information. Number 1. In 2017, The Witcher 3 has sold more than in 2016. We are extremely proud of that and it had impact on total sales of all (The Witcher) games which was 33 million of copies as mentioned by Adam. The second important information is that on the year of the release, 70% of sales were sales of console copies and slightly more than 30% were PC copies. The trend has been changing over time and PCs have the longest life cycle now. In 2017 50% of sales stem from PC copies and the other half was attributed to both consoles.”
You still believe hairworks doesn't sell? ;)

pibbur who March 23rd, 2018 17:40

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Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061497324)

So it's not only CP.
Now I have to make sure I don't die in next three years. Damn

Time to give up smoking?

pibbur who couldn't resist. And whose hair probably won't sell anything. According to his family.

SSIGuy March 23rd, 2018 17:50

Actually, there was a leak I think about their multi-player plans but as per Kiciński's comments, it's not actually traditional multiplayer - just an online component they're planning to add. Players will be able to coordinate cyber attacks on real-world EA and UbiSoft servers, bringing their game IPs to a crawl and causing them to lose massive amounts of players and revenue from their various crappy, cash-grab games. :biggrin:

pibbur who March 23rd, 2018 18:04

Good one. But I had to read your post several times before I got the message.

pibbur who tends not to notice smileys.

Carnifex March 23rd, 2018 18:13

Ehhh I wouldn't want to outright assault electronic arts or ubijunk like that, as it would actually give them something legitimate to complain about. I'd rather continue as I am, simply pitying the poor fools that waste their collective times there with people who couldn't care less about them.

mercy March 23rd, 2018 19:00

Excellent news! Burn the VR Witches and Burn the Multiplayer Whores!!

pibbur who March 23rd, 2018 19:13

One thing I find a bit interesting/humourus: The root of, RPG's (p&p and larps) are multiplayer games (cooperative, not MMO's). So, it's not that "alien" (not sure of the correct English word here), and one might argue that the RP is stronger in those games than possible in any CRPG.

Just mentioning it, doesn't mean that CRPG's have to have MP components, and to repeat myself: I'm not talking about MMO's where the RP aspects are (have to be) weaker.

pibbur who prefers palying alone, and pretends he is when playing MMOs.

Vindicator March 24th, 2018 00:07

Yes, no multiplayer at launch makes it a MUST BUY for me!
Truth is, as a CD Projekt Red fan, I'd have bought it anyway… but it shows that they have their priorities straight. I don't hate MP, in fact I often play MP shooters. But for RPGs, I want to be engrossed in a deep single player campaign; No MP and no co-op.

Zloth March 24th, 2018 01:25

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Originally Posted by mercy (Post 1061497362)
Excellent news! Burn the VR Witches and Burn the Multiplayer Whores!!

I'm not a witch! I'm not a witch!

joxer March 24th, 2018 03:51

What, you're that other… thing? :p

Carnifex March 24th, 2018 16:51

My plan right now is to buy this just as soon as it is released, I don't know when I'll actually play it but they have earned my money simply by their attitude towards making a single player game, and making it quite clear.

Ripper March 24th, 2018 16:56

I'd like to see some gameplay soon. Presumably the setting dictates that it becomes more of a shooter, and I'm curious how well they've handled it.

ChienAboyeur March 24th, 2018 17:22

No MU at launch is a strange thing to say. No MU is enough.

Carnifex March 24th, 2018 17:45

I guess it leaves the door open at some point that it could become a feature if enough people desire it at some point in the games life, but it isn't going to eat into their initial budget for the game launch, and for me that is a huge positive.

sakichop March 24th, 2018 17:46

CDPR, marketing genius.

Ive never seen a company get so much praise for doing nothing.

Brilliant, really. Vaguely mention MP, let everyone work themselves in to a frenzy, then come back and say single player is the main focus, which was the plan all along.

Reminds me of the 15 horse armor DLC’s they were praised for giving for free.

Yea, CDPR are heroes, best company ever.lol.

I like CDPR but they are so good at generating praise and favor for doing nothing. Priceless really.

Carnifex March 24th, 2018 17:53

I wouldn't go so far as calling them heroes, or the best company ever, but if this was indeed a marketing ploy, it was well orchestrated. In this current age of whiners and weak willed folk, it would be encouraging to actually see a savvy company not only succeed, but veer away from the mmo madness that seems to infect a lot of computer products these days.

ilm March 24th, 2018 20:31

I like CDPR too, but yeah stuff gets exaggerated on the internet. They are very good at presentation though, in-game and in marketing.

Although, while CPs initial trailer was a good move, it is very dangerous not showing more of the game so far (or there are indeed some problems in development). This might come back to bite them if they do not know what we want after all.

Couchpotato March 24th, 2018 20:50

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Originally Posted by sakichop (Post 1061497453)
CDPR, marketing genius.

Ive never seen a company get so much praise for doing nothing.

Brilliant, really. Vaguely mention MP, let everyone work themselves in to a frenzy, then come back and say single player is the main focus, which was the plan all along.

Reminds me of the 15 horse armor DLC’s they were praised for giving for free.

Yea, CDPR are heroes, best company ever.lol.

I like CDPR but they are so good at generating praise and favor for doing nothing. Priceless really.

They have a good PR manager something EA is need of desperately. There will come a day when CDPR will be lumped with EA, and everything they say is meaningless.

Ah behold the circle of gaming.:cuddle: - (Old Lion King reference)

zahratustra March 24th, 2018 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakichop (Post 1061497453)
I like CDPR but they are so good at generating praise and favor for doing nothing. Priceless really.

You make it sound as if CDPR wasn't known for anything but their PR stunts. Would you care to name few of those manipulations which brought them praises for nothing?
And no, the MP doesn't count because you don't know what was their plan all along. You just speculate.

sakichop March 24th, 2018 22:31

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Originally Posted by zahratustra (Post 1061497474)
You make it sound as if CDPR wasn't known for anything but their PR stunts. Would you care to name few of those manipulations which brought them praises for nothing?
And no, the MP doesn't count because you don't know what was their plan all along. You just speculate.

No I don’t. You’re reading way too much into it. I didn’t say anything about what CDPR is known for . I would guess most people and definitely people that post here are aware of what CDPR is known for.

Also, I’m not trying to convince anyone. If you don’t agree with my observation I’m 100% ok with that.

BoboTheMighty March 24th, 2018 22:53

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Originally Posted by sakichop (Post 1061497453)
CDPR, marketing genius.

Ive never seen a company get so much praise for doing nothing.

Brilliant, really. Vaguely mention MP, let everyone work themselves in to a frenzy, then come back and say single player is the main focus, which was the plan all along.

Reminds me of the 15 horse armor DLC’s they were praised for giving for free.

Yea, CDPR are heroes, best company ever.lol.

I like CDPR but they are so good at generating praise and favor for doing nothing. Priceless really.

You need to git gud at trolling here. ;)

You got it the way around. They directly stated from the start it will have MP, as it's based on PnP, go figure, no one actually plays it on his own.
Hell, it even makes perfect sense in gameworld, like with corporates who always hire solos for protection.
Then "gamers" flipped out and worked themselves "into frenzy", going about, per usual: micro transactions, required online, don't need this into muh ar-pe-gees! ,etc. (Even though we've had multiplayer into BG, NWN and others)
This is a good call: massive, complex new IP can never get enough Q&A and they'll need to put a lot of effort into patching SP, before they throw in Multiplayer.
Which will likely revolve around Co-op/social experience, than PvP.

zahratustra March 25th, 2018 11:02

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Originally Posted by sakichop (Post 1061497479)
No I don’t.

Yes you do.

JDR13 March 25th, 2018 11:09

I've seen some dumb-fuck theories around here every so often, but seriously…

ChienAboyeur March 25th, 2018 13:00

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Originally Posted by Carnifex (Post 1061497452)
I guess it leaves the door open at some point that it could become a feature if enough people desire it at some point in the games life, but it isn't going to eat into their initial budget for the game launch, and for me that is a huge positive.

In this case, it must be believed that, in a project as planned as this vid product developpment, they have not included an accomodating design for incoming MU, that the layers will happen as an afterthought, no matter the work it will need.

Day zero DLC scheme.

It reminds of a pattern: all resources were allocated to SP… except those that were not.

All men have a right to freedom, life and pursuit of happiness… except those who do not.

Works every time. No flaw.

ChienAboyeur March 25th, 2018 13:05

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Originally Posted by BoboTheMighty (Post 1061497481)
You need to git gud at trolling here. ;)

You got it the way around. They directly stated from the start it will have MP, as it's based on PnP, go figure, no one actually plays it on his own.

It nevers stops. It is for the purpose of a literal adaptation. RPGs are usually MU. Computers allow them to be SP as it takes the seat of the other usual participants: GM and other players.

By this line, CRPGs must be MU.

Here, since this PnP was written by a black writer, the computer version must include a character creation tool set that allows to represent all the shades of black people's complexion.

Wait and see.

sakichop March 25th, 2018 13:43

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Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061497507)
I've seen some dumb-fuck theories around here every so often, but seriously…

Ive seen some real assholes around here but seriously.

Im done here this place gets worse and worse.

Goodbye everyone.

TomRon March 25th, 2018 15:18

I'm with Saki on this one. I'm not saying it IS a marketing ploy, but IF it is it's pretty brilliant.

Don't quite understand the overly defensive comments either, he didn't say they don't make great games, he just implied they either have a really good or an insanely good marketing department. Oh, how dare he???


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