Kingmaker - Deep Silver Publisher
 

@PC Gamer Owlcat Games has announced that Deep Silver will be the publisher for Pathfinder: Kingmaker.

Thanks henriquejr!


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Not a bad choice but hope they don't pull any bad PR stunts.

Yea! I never had any complaints about deep silver other than a lot of their games don't interest me but overall I've been happy with them in the past.

Awesome, now, they just need to ensure the game is bug free as possible. I'm getting Kingmaker withdrawl symptom at the moment (damn you, game breaking bug!!!)

A good chaotic good choice, in my opinion. Well, ranging from slightly good to somewhat neutral at times, but never evil. =p

TBH I can't think of a better choice that includes a non-evil publisher that has an established track record.

For last few years no game comes out bug free, everyone is now using release as beta testing with full version coming out later as Director Cut or whatever.

Weeell, not to rain on anyone's parade, but didn't they have a falling out with Piranha Bytes?
Bjorn ( or Jorn or Borg…bloody German names) kind of hinted they were meddling in design more than they liked.

Oh you, Archie. We need to set up twelve step decodex program. :)

I thought it was JoWood that PB had the falling out with.

I think it was more a matter of releasing Gothic III too soon, but they didn't mess with design, far as I've heard.

Deep Silver ordered (forced) 3 DLC with Risen 2, it wasn't PB's idea to have those.
However, recent climate in DS is not DLCing everything, so them being a publisher is good news. IMO.

Never heard anything like that @BoboTheMighty

BREAKING NEWS

Deep Silver announces they intend to convert Kingmaker into the best Tactical Turn-Based RPG of all time!! :D Hell, YEAH!

I remember that the DLC was just a few costumes and short quests anyway.
Doubt it Deep Silver is just helping with distribution and sales of the game. Just like Paradox with Pillars of Eternity. So they should have no control over the game.

I think they asked Lester ( during development of Elex) will the game have similar designs to Gothic ( more "hardcore") or Risen..he said something along "not all decisions we made in last few games were our own and let's leave it at that".

Then again, he may have been talking about beer and sausages. Germans love those.

The Risen 2 DLC were already in the game's files at release. They made the content inaccessible and resold it as microtransactions. I don't know if that was Deep Silvers idea or Piranha Bytes, but it was scummy as hell.

Risen 2 doesn't have microtransactions. As far as the DLC already being developed at the game's release, I think it's a shitty practice, but it was nothing new even back then.

If I had to guess though, I'd say it was probably the publisher's call.

So this wouldn't be considered a microtransaction?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/4…s_Clothes_DLC/

Besides Mass Effect 3, I can't think of any other examples of this practice. Risen 2 is even worse than Mass Effect 3, because Piranha Bytes never told anybody it was cut content.

I'd call that cheap DLC like Oblivion's horse armor. Most people consider microtransactions something you purchase from within the game. I can't think of many single-player games that have microtransactions.

Don't be naive. No one is telling people when DLC is cut content. Plus you have no idea whether or not it was always planned to be DLC.

The Mass Effect 3 example is also much worse imo because it actually includes one of your companions. Players were forced to purchase it just to be able to have the full team. Bioware also did the same thing with Mass Effect 2.

Does it really matter if it's sold in-game or out? It's still charging money for cosmetics.

What does it matter? It's shady to cut out finished content and resell it at a later date.

I'm not going to debate whether Mass Effect 3 was worse or not, but Bioware was upfront months in advance that there would be day one DLC. Piranha Bytes dishonestly tried to pass off their cut content as being new, and when people found out it was always accessible using the console, they removed it from the game.

Well, I don't know whether the rumour is true or not but I hope there will be no DLC for Kingmaker.

Extra chapter was added as a part of kickstarter goal, so I'm hoping it will be very difficult to cut off the content from the existing content to make DLC, because that's a real scum act.

Also, Owlcat is new and don't have any track record - would publisher really take a risk to slice off content to make DLC when they aren't even sure how well Kingmaker will sell at this point?

Please just concentrate on delivering best product as possible :( that's my hope!!

Edit: also, this is at very late stage of game development (should be close to release!!) so I hope publisher input is minimal.

I wouldn't be too worried. This game is crowdfunded and in late development, so Deep Silver likely has no control unless Owlcat needed additional funds.

Actually, that armor set provided a bonus to XP, so it wasn't just cosmetic. It's a silly argument though. If you want to refer to every such DLC as microtransactions then be my guest.

That's blantantly false, as the DLC for Risen 2 was also announced months in advance.

The only difference between those two examples is that much of the code (sans voiceovers) for PB's day 1 DLC was included in the download of the main game. I don't see how that somehow makes it more of a money grab than what Bioware did. Bioware was just more clever about how they went about it. At least the DLC for Risen 2 was completely non-essential content though, and, unlike the day 1 DLC for Mass Effect 2&3, you didn't feel like you were missing out on part of the story if you didn't have it.

Sure they announced DLC, but not that it was finished and already present in the files.

Because they tried to obscure the fact that it was cut content, and when they got exposed they punished players by removing the command console. Bioware didn't deceive anyone by releasing their DLC on day one, as everyone already knew in advance.

I don't like defending Bioware, but there is a clear moral distinction between what they did and Piranha Bytes did. At the end of the day they're both scummy.

BREAKING NEWS: Steam page is up! Targeting August release date!!!

https://owlcatgames.com/forums/showt…ned-for-August

https://store.steampowered.com/app/6…der_Kingmaker/

Can someone please post this as a newsbit!!! @Silver @HiddenX ?? :D

Thanks for that update @purpleblob. My evil reign shall commence soon.:devilish:

I'm currently screaming in excitement XD Might take a few days off work to get some Kingmaker goodness.

Only in Russia

https://www.iizcat.com/uploads/2016/09/t6efr-ml8.JPG

A little genetic experimentation should be able to create an owlcat.:evil:

So off to my lab I go come Igor we have much to do.:floating:

There's owlbear in game :P

Man, those graphics don't look so hot.

https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/stea…g?t=1530199809

Then go play PoE2 :rolleyes: I'm going to have a freaking awesome time playing Kingmaker :D

It looks like this?
https://db4sgowjqfwig.cloudfront.net…jpg?1410029833


Looks good to me since this game was made on a much smaller budget then PoE. :nod:

PoE - $3,986,929
KingMaker - $909,057

It's all the cheap 3D rendering. They would of been better off going 2.5d on their budget.

Well they could have combined both but it would end up something like Xenonauts.

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/84…fdf5dfff21.jpg

Or a modern Fallout RPG.

http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/22658…lout2-620x.jpg

It was day 1 DLC so of course it was finished. Just like Bioware's DLC was already finished. Again, the only difference was that PB's day 1 DLC was part of the main game download. That's literally the only difference.

Explain how they tried to obscure that it was cut content or that we even know for a fact that it was cut content to begin with.

But but but… everyone also knew about PB's in advance so therefore, according to your own logic, they couldn't have been trying to deceive anyone.

2D painted backgrounds will always look sexier than cheap 3D rendering.

Hmm looks like Shadowrun, Tyranny, Numenera, Sword Coast Legends. & PoE 2.

Once again they would not have the budget to make those games.

Though they could of went with 2D painted backgrounds like Age of Decadence.

Why not? Drawing something usually takes less time than rendering it in 3D.

Every game you listed cost millions to make except Age of Decadence & Banner Saga.

Anyway who knows unless we can get a budget chart it's all guess work.:)