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purpleblob March 7th, 2008 02:11

Divine divinity
 
ok, I decided that it piked my interest enough to have a go at it… the thing is, I don't want to buy it just yet. I was thinking of trying out demo first. So last night when I finally got home from uni, I've hunted it down… waiting eagerly for 1.5hrs while it was d/ling. Then I've installed it… and when I played on shortcut….. I GOT DENIED! The error msg poped up and it was in GERMAN! I just got completely owned by it. So my question is… does anyone know where I can d/l a version that I can actually play? I don't want to waste another 400MB of bandwith. My brother and my parents will murder me *hides scared*.

The Wanderer March 7th, 2008 02:44

Buy it on Ebay.

It'll save you headaches!

And you can get it cheap.

txa1265 March 7th, 2008 03:09

C'mon … it has action RPG play mechanics, and is one of the best RPG's in recent memory. And it is really cheap. Why fiddle around?!?!

Dhruin March 7th, 2008 03:48

I know I'm out on a limb with this but for me, it's the best hack'n'slash RPG ever. EVAR! For me, the combat works better than Diablo (or any other H&S) plus toss in an excellent character development system, a great loot system, nice alchemy (love making poison), quirky characters and a huge world to explore.

Just get it (but make sure to stick with it past that first dungeon).

txa1265 March 7th, 2008 04:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dhruin (Post 70890)
Just get it (but make sure to stick with it past that first dungeon).

That stopped me more than once … and I agree, perhaps even more. Divine Divinity is definitely in my Top 10 RPG's of all time.

purpleblob March 7th, 2008 05:25

ok, ok :P I will get it. Since I can't find it any stores I will just get on ebay…. :P

chamr March 7th, 2008 07:14

Or Amazon.au probably has it. It's surprisingly prevalent here in the states, for such an old and lesser known game. Saw it in Target, of all places, just the other day.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dhruin (Post 70890)
Just get it (but make sure to stick with it past that first dungeon).

I'll "third" that! This and the rushed/empty end game are probably the only two glaring design flaws. The first dungeon can be pretty "grindy" for a bit, but it opens up after that. Of course, for someone with your tenacity (50 BG2 replays?), it should be a snap! ;)

purpleblob March 7th, 2008 08:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by chamr (Post 70907)
Or Amazon.au probably has it. It's surprisingly prevalent here in the states, for such an old and lesser known game. Saw it in Target, of all places, just the other day.



I'll "third" that! This and the rushed/empty end game are probably the only two glaring design flaws. The first dungeon can be pretty "grindy" for a bit, but it opens up after that. Of course, for someone with your tenacity (50 BG2 replays?), it should be a snap! ;)

well, I hope first dungeon isnt as detious as the beginning of morrowind…

and yep, 50 bg2 replays… ;)

15th March 7th, 2008 09:11

I could not find Divine Divinity in any store, but a lot of *.au online shops have it for $9.95. (Just a DVD cheap case and disc. Manual lovers are outta luck)

Picked it up last week but have had not much time to play it. I needed to restart when I found you could move stuff around.

JDR13 March 7th, 2008 10:18

Here you go.

http://video-games.search.ebay.com/d…40QQsacatZ1249

I see quite a few in Australia.

Cm March 7th, 2008 16:23

Just skip that first dungeon for as long as you can. Go explore everything else first, so you have all the levels you can gain before you try it. Then go in, die, and then try again with a lot of caution. ;)

Guest March 7th, 2008 17:53

this is a game i've been meaning to try for a long time now.

Alrik Fassbauer March 7th, 2008 22:19

What about Amazon ?

Dhruin March 7th, 2008 23:14

I'm going to re-emphasise what has already been emphasised - push past that first dungeon. It's ridiculously long (looooooooong) and will give you a false impression of the gameplay. You'll think you are playing some barely adequate Diablo clone and then it suddenly shifts to Ultima VII with dialogue trees and a sense of humour.

RPGWatch/RPGDot staff have a long history with Divinity and after my fellow editors talked about it, I tried the demo asap and thought they were mad. Then after so many other people said it was great, I tried it again and got through that dungeon. Glad I did - and like txa - it makes my Top 10.

txa1265 March 8th, 2008 00:18

I restarted again last night (dammit! I was going to finish Loki first!) … and am in the midst of that dungeon … boy this dungeon, while *exhausting* is SO much better than Loki … oh well, back into the metal case you go :D

Nukester March 8th, 2008 19:48

Ive done the same thing in regards to the beginning town and the first dungeon (Im assuming everyone is talking about the dungeon with the skeletons ?). By the time I get through the town quests and that dungeon, Ive shevled the game a few times now. I definitely want to get through that part of the game and see where it "opens up" a bit. Aside from the initial grind, I think the game has excellent potential. Ill have to give it another chance.

txa1265 March 8th, 2008 20:02

Towards the end of the catacombs you start to see some of the cool stuff (existential skeletons anyone?) … and I worked through the 'magic item' thing with El'Gammon in the Blue Boar … hilarious stuff. "as silent as an embarrassed fish' … :D

Cm March 8th, 2008 21:33

I shelved the game for a long time when I hit that dungeon. It is, as so many are saying, not a good representation of what you will have to do in the rest of the game. Why that one was so huge I will never understand. It made me search the other similar areas for the missing parts of them. :lol:

txa1265 March 8th, 2008 21:55

I dunno … there are other *huge and exhausting* dungeons in the game … I think it is that it is disproportionately large for the amount of time spent in-game to that point … and really punishing.

woges March 8th, 2008 22:23

Just saw this at the local 2nd hand shop for £1.00 - should have picked it up I guess.

Alrik Fassbauer March 8th, 2008 22:32

What I liked very much of this game is that it contains many names of forum members. :)

Plus, you'll get to know kind of a poem of mine … ;)
(Which can be "used" to do "different" things meanwhile … ;) )

thartanian March 9th, 2008 05:21

Saw it at Target for 10 bux.

purpleblob March 9th, 2008 08:29

at target? I should check it out. Are you from australia?

15th March 9th, 2008 11:09

purpleblob: Previously mentioned australian online stores, all $9.95AU (Shipping varies). Others out there of course, but these are the only three places I've ever used aside from e-bay.

http://dstore.com.au/games/Divine-Di…y)/632854.html
http://www.gpstore.com.au/Games/1456690.html
http://gameswarehouse.com.au/longpage.asp?gameid=7085

Dhruin March 9th, 2008 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alrik Fassbauer (Post 71092)
What I liked very much of this game is that it contains many names of forum members. :)

Plus, you'll get to know kind of a poem of mine … ;)
(Which can be "used" to do "different" things meanwhile … ;) )

Yeah, I got a huge thrill seeing Rendelius, Myrthos, Moriendor, Arhu, Bronthion and others in game. Lots of fun.

fantasta March 10th, 2008 16:21

The first dungeon was quite big and boring, but now, after I came back to Aleroth, now… the game is great. I can't stop playing it.

Lurking Grue March 10th, 2008 16:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dhruin (Post 70996)
I'm going to re-emphasise what has already been emphasised - push past that first dungeon. It's ridiculously long (looooooooong) and will give you a false impression of the gameplay. You'll think you are playing some barely adequate Diablo clone and then it suddenly shifts to Ultima VII with dialogue trees and a sense of humour.

Really?! I remember playing the demo (quite some time ago) and liking the early beginning parts of the game, then going to the first dungeon (under the statue/fountain/whatever it was, can't remember anymore) and running out of steam by the fourth or fifth level down, when conforted by yet another batch of undead to kill, kill, kill. I was thoroughly fed up with the game and didn't even consider buying it and playing it more (as I don't like hack n' slash).

My loss it seems… but what a poor demo/start for a game that (if what you say is true) is more like Ultima VII than Diablo. The first dungeon gave me a completely wrong impression of the game and destroyed my interest in the game (and, IIRC, you are forced to go there before you can get out of the town you start the game in). Oh well, maybe I'll get "DivDiv" from some bargain bin and give it another try - I just loathe the idea of going through the starter dungeon again.

txa1265 March 10th, 2008 19:17

One other consolation - by the end of that dungeon you have gained enough experience and skills to be a pretty decent wrecking machine ;)

chamr March 10th, 2008 21:03

Damn you all!! Now I've fired it up again… as if I need more distractions… ;)

This game sure stands the test of time better than most. Some great design…

As a community service to the DivDiv community, some brave soul should take one of each class, play through the "starter" dungeon using as little skill and attribute points as possible, and then post the save game after they complete the dungeon so that folks can just dl that.

Nukester March 10th, 2008 22:16

Luckily I saved my last batch of savegames and was able to start at the point where I just entered the catacombs. Im slogging my way through it now once again. I know Ive gotten past this point before, and quit playing just as the second "town" I guess you can call it (some new area to enter to the northeast of Aleroth) opened up. Im going to try to keep the game going for awhile this time

Dhruin March 10th, 2008 23:14

The hack'n'slash combat is an integral part of the game so if you absolutely hate that aspect, you'll struggle. Personally, I quite enjoyed it (not a big H&S fan but I found this better than Diablo) with lots of different ways to approach the combat - melee, ranged, decent magic and I really liked using alchemy to make poison and apply it to weapons. They do get carried away with some other huge-ass dungeons but I think on balance it's still a great game.

Once you leave Aleroth, you are free to go (almost) anywhere.

Corwin March 11th, 2008 01:24

I think that huge first dungeon was primarily to create a fairly long demo of the game. Perhaps it backfired a little. Still, I enjoyed it enough to Buy BD!!

Nukester March 11th, 2008 02:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dhruin (Post 71258)
The hack'n'slash combat is an integral part of the game so if you absolutely hate that aspect, you'll struggle. Personally, I quite enjoyed it (not a big H&S fan but I found this better than Diablo) with lots of different ways to approach the combat - melee, ranged, decent magic and I really liked using alchemy to make poison and apply it to weapons. They do get carried away with some other huge-ass dungeons but I think on balance it's still a great game.

Once you leave Aleroth, you are free to go (almost) anywhere.

I think thats why I want to play this so much again. Once in awhile I like a good action, hack 'n' slash game. Recently I was in the mood for some mindless (more or less) hack 'n' slash play, and reinstalled Diablo II. That same night I re-uninstalled Diablo II. There is something about the game that I just hate, and I absolutely loved Diablo I.

Im still getting through Gothic II, but for a different kind of CRPG experience, Ive been play DD. Im down to the bottom of the catacombs now, and will try to give the game enough time to at least explore some of what I hear is a "huge" world.

JDR13 March 11th, 2008 09:05

Just curious, but which of the 3 classes did most of you find the most enjoyable to play?

Corwin March 11th, 2008 09:39

I played primarily a mage, with a few handy warrior skills thrown in for those times when only a sword will do!! :)

Dhruin March 11th, 2008 10:22

Survivor with ranged weapons, poisoned arrows and a couple of handy spells.

txa1265 March 11th, 2008 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corwin (Post 71297)
I played primarily a mage, with a few handy warrior skills thrown in for those times when only a sword will do!! :)

Same here - classic 'battlemage', with a smattering of skills from other classes.

Alrik Fassbauer March 11th, 2008 13:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corwin (Post 71269)
I think that huge first dungeon was primarily to create a fairly long demo of the game. Perhaps it backfired a little. Still, I enjoyed it enough to Buy BD!!

Are you still talking about Divinity or about Beyond Divinity ?

About Divinity: I'd agree, but cut the term " a little".

I know many reports from people who especially didn't like the first dungeon within Divinity.

magerette March 11th, 2008 17:00

Survivor also, ranger and theif build with some spells and poison thrown in.

Has everybody here finished the game? I put about 80 hours into it (up to Zix Zax the Almost Wise--Part V-?)-and there was still a staggering amount of gamage left.

IMO the first dungeon was quite fun, if a bit over-long, and a good leveling tool, but then I like that arpg hack-n-slash stuff. :) There's a lot of similar areas in the game, but you are pretty wound up in the plot by then, so they go by faster.

chamr March 11th, 2008 19:28

Survivor of the Assassin variety. Sneak and backstab with poison, Hell Spikes and bow to augment where necessary. And, being weak to "cool skill" temptation, too many onesie and twosies spent all over the place… :blush:

Quote:

Originally Posted by magerette (Post 71377)
Has everybody here finished the game?

Of course not. :-/ But I will some day, dammit!!


Quote:

Originally Posted by magerette (Post 71377)
IMO the first dungeon was quite fun, if a bit over-long, and a good leveling tool, but then I like that arpg hack-n-slash stuff.

I think build probably has a lot to do with it too. Mine was not well suited/weak so it was a long slog of "plink, plink… RUN!!!"

I think my second run through (cha… right…) will be more of the battlemage type for power-bashing fun.


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