Kingmaker - Tavern Party Trailer
 

A new trailer for Pathfinder: Kingmaker.

Thanks Couchpotato!

More information.

I've met that troll who likes reading books… and sadly had to kill him like in the video… :(

Haven't yet met that particular Linnorm but the fire one crisped my entire party to death within… 2 minutes?

Aaahhh… looking forward for more Kingmaker adventures! :D

Really good trailer actually :) Hope they have great success with this game.

Also does anyone know when will they start sending out keys to backers? :D

I'm checking Owlcat forums daily but no news yet :( Guessing probably like 1-2 days before the release day.

Did you meet anyone of Minsc level "fun" ?

No, I didn't actually find any of companions particularly interesting… their jokes are somehow… off.

Strangely the trailer made me a bit more pessimistic about the supposedly expected brilliance of Pathfinder.. but lets see.

Ah that is sad :(
I loved many NPCs in BG games. Their quirkiness was funny.

Agreed. The dialogue in the trailer reminds me of a rather trite Young Adult fantasy novel. But, the snippets of combat in the trailer looked OK.

Let's just hope the in-game dialogue is better than this

Companions aren't the most important part about RPGs, which is why I'm concerned that Owlcats is focusing so much on them in their advertising.

They are just channeling their inner Baldur's Gate, time where we were all young/younger.
If you are not enjoying it, I am afraid you are either too young or too old by now for this.

Well, companions are an easy feature to advertise with. I wouldn't conclude that they play en equally major role in the actual game.

What, I'm not young? <Cue "I'm not white?" scene from Hear no Evil, See no Evil>
Since when is 68 old? :S

Just kidding, of course. You hit uncomfortably close to the mark.

I'm still crossing my fingers that I'm going to like this, but, yikes! That style and tone is working pretty hard to chase me off. I sit through a fair number of children's cartoons, and this reminds me of the ones that annoy me.

I actually really like how it looks. I’ll be playing day 1 probably.

Would have went for beta access but it’s just to much to justify for me at this point.

The graphical engine looks good, and I was happy to see dynamic shadows. Too bad it's not a turn-based system.

I'm sold. Looking forward to playing this!

You couldn't afford the Trolls university education? SHAME!! SHAME!!

Sad to say but in game dialogues aren't much better…. Well at least for some characters (especially, Amiri and Regongar - I don't like them much). But from what I've seen it's only limited to party companions. I quite liked all other NPC dialogues.

I'm usually a huge fan of RPGs with fun and interesting companions, therefore, was some what disappointed with dialogue quality in Kingmaker but the game makes up for it with other things - tough but fun combat, engaging story, character building, lore/world building and also looking forward to Kingdom system :)

But… But… He is giant, scary looking troll and what if he has awesome fat loots? :D

More links that have information most probably know already.

I Learned a Lot More About Pathfinder: Kingmaker at PAX West
Pathfinder: Kingmaker Blends Role-Playing, City Management
Pathfinder: Kingmaker – PAX West 2018 Impressions
Build Your Own Kingdom and Rule it Like a Jerk in Pathfinder: Kingmaker

Perfect assessment. And its like every fantasy I read. The voices are off too.

Thanks for sharing news, Couch! :) I can't wait till 25th Sept… I'm thinking of taking a few days off to enjoy this gem.

Year after year, September has the releases I'm always looking most forward to. No wonder Autumn is my favorite time of year.

I'm miffed they only included 5 Prestige Classes or so :(

I wanted to remake my Shadowdancer-based Rogue in this one. Oh well, maybe they'll add it later on.

Also, while I have some superficial knowledge of Pathfinder - it's clearly more than just a refined 3.5 - as I've been led to believe. Certainly, the subclasses thing seems significant.

I wonder how much diversity they will bring.

Game still looks good, though I'm not entirely sold on it.

I may play it if I can purchase someones kickstarter key for $15.

No one is that desperate to hear your opinion on it.

Hey PB.

What's your take on the Archetypes? Are they significantly different from one another?

I thought it was a minor thing in Pathfinder - mostly for added flavor, but I see they've added a bunch of prestige-class related feats to some of them. For instance, it seems Hide in Plain Sight is part of an Archetype in this ruleset.

Makes me think there's more depth in it than in 3.5.

Too bad, because now I'm definitely going to play it.

Sorry Dart, I don't think I'm the best person to answer that question - I actually never played around with any of them, been sticking to the plain boring generic/default classes. From my shallow understanding, yes, each archetype can be significantly different. I will jump on the game tomorrow and will take some screenshots for you with different archetype character sheet.

Also, here is the post of Kingmaker information some kind soul has been updating regularly. It's got the list of available archetypes and prestige classes as well.

https://owlcatgames.com/forums/showt…he-game-so-far

Ok, no worries :)

I was under the impression that the Pathfinder ruleset was very close to 3.5 - and it was more a thing about setting/characters.

Guess I was wrong.

Intriguing ;) It makes me more interested in the game, certainly.

They are similar to alternate classes in BG2. They are based on base class but get noticeable negatives and positives compared to them.

Just skimmed that info and was very pleasantly surprised at how much there seems to be in this game.

I promised myself no more games in september, but who am I kidding? ;)

Touche. Sometimes to give someone a message, you can only go with good uppercut.

https://i.imgur.com/fzSIO6o.gif

(just pretend purbleblob is Tyson here and Silver Coin is the other guy :blush:)

The animated gifs are annoying….

Gotta give Silver Coin a point for that comeback.

Too bad he can't do that using his own words ;)

SC is almost famous in the real world. He is Harlan Ellison's lesser known brother, Howlin. He couldn't write well so he dictated the book, I have no brain so I must scream. Alas, it didn't sell well so he posts on the forums now. :biggrin:

@Darth Tagnan

As promised, here are screenshot of different archetypes - I used Bard as an example. It seems like class progression is rather different depending on which archetypes you pick.

https://imgur.com/hcwIklQ.jpg
https://imgur.com/In3wDxB.jpg
https://imgur.com/n8BWG52.jpg
https://imgur.com/wd7M3cG.jpg

Damn, since you can't really zoom into these, here is the link to the album:
https://imgur.com/a/ycH0uXE

I want to play it now. NOW.

I guess I'll need at least 20 hours for building and planning the main character.