Kingmaker - Released
 

Pathfinder: Kingmaker has been released on Steam and GOG.

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And here I just started The Bard's Tale 4 for real, now that a patch has allowed me to actually create the character I wanted. While I'm enjoying all the atmosphere in the game, the allure of, I hope, real character development found in a real RPG system may draw me into this one.

Too many games. It takes a pretty special game for me to finish one anymore. A new and intriguing mistress always catches my eye.

I'm still downloading the game. I have read on Steam that there are some bugs but reception seems quite positive.

Played it for ~5 h last night (cutting my sleep to 4 h.. :sick:) and had a lot of fun.
However I noticed quite a lot of missing or faulty strings in the GUI. Srrange how these bugs had not been fixed as they appeared in character generation also which I assume has been testes a lot.

Just finished installing it due to my house being fixed today. So off I go.:excited:

Yea overall it should be much more positive reviews, since most of the negative ones are people not updating their drivers or stuff like that. I got my key so I hope I get to play the game soon :D

Too many games :D

Game has some bugs, some bigger than others like save game corruption (fixed by making more saves more often) or opening game options maxing your GPU to 100% (fixed by using a outside program to limit your frames to 60 or whatever is your monitor normal fps) but otherwise it is very fun game.
It is a true D&D/Pathfinder, pretty hard at start, especially if you play on hard difficulty where all enemies get a 20% bonus to all their stats.

My main issue with the game is that I'm not all that knowledgeable about Pathfinder, so some of the stuff seems kind of weird and I can't find any in-game explanations for some things (like how hit-points are determined). Other than that it's been pretty interesting so far (only just got to Oleg's place and poked around there a bit, so I'm not very far in).

From what I have seen everyone gets max HP at lvl 1 and then a fixed amount for each level up. Your Constitution bonus gives you bonus HP go up with each level up.

It is streamed and streamers are simply enjoying it.

Steam is still unpacking the files, it's taking ages :( guess I can't start play this tonight sigh

I don't understand why people insist on using Steam when GOG is available?

From initiating the download to starting the game took about 30 minutes and both have cloud backup. I just don't get it.

Because for new games like this that will be patched often, Steam gets those patches way before GoG, sometimes days before.

And because of the hassle of having to deal with two different game library softwares?

I don't mind having two libraries. For example for BT4 I chose GoG because I knew I would not playing it immediately but waiting for patches a few weeks or months later.

For P:KM I chose Steam because I wanted to start playing it right away and have fixes being applied to my game right away.

A big advantage of GoG is that you own those game and you are not dependant on some crazy new idea of Gabe that might ruin it for you. Only on GoG servers still working. And if they will not, you can download install files on your HDD and have them there waiting for some day you want to play it. Steam does not work like that or offer options to work without Steam.
One day something might happen and we might be screwed if we lose access to Steam.

GOG all the way, for me. Very displeasing when I have to resort to Steam or (shudders) one of the others.

Indeed pretty hard. I'm playing on hard difficulty and at level 2 I had a fight with a few giant spiders and about 3 spider swarms which where immune to normal weapon damage. My casters were out of spells or dying, so I had to use some fire bombs I've found earlier. There was one swarm left but no more bombs, so I had to "revive" the caster who managed to cast a final burning hands winnig the fight.
After the fight my chars were still poisoned with strength reduction so I couldn't move. I needed to rest right there but the camp got attacked by more spiders multiple times (no swarms though). Took me more than half an hour (and some reloads tbh). Quite satisfying in the end.

Yep, that's indeed a problem. I know some D&D 3.5 but I'm a Pathfinder newbie. I'm missing more detailed explanation. The wiki doesn't help much too. Is there an old-style manual somewhere?

Steam is the better client with general better usability. But as GOG Galaxy is good enough I support GOG whenever I can, even if that means to handle two clients.
The lack of DRM actually is irrelevant to me personally.

The DRM-free selling point of GOG has never resonated with me.

There's no chance I will replay 90% of the games in my library, and I'm not going to take up hard drive space with the games I might replay one day.

If by some mad chance a game I want to replay gets erased from my library and steam support couldn't resolve it, I'll just buy it again. Steam is cheaper usually anyways.

Everything you need to know is here: https://www.d20pfsrd.com/

Pathfinder is extremely similar to D&D 3.5e. Most things works like in D&D 3.5e.

It probably wouldn't fit in a manual, there is an in-game encyclopedia and the game is pretty close to the pnp, you can probably just search the PRD(Pathfinder Reference Document)/SRD (PRD version, the SRD one that Silver Coin linked). The difference between the two is that the SRD one is not exclusive to Pathfinder.

The save game system, for the most part, is broken on most systems. Corrupting, and/or outright deleting saved games. There are so many smaller, yet detail-oriented bugs that affect gameplay that need to be addressed. There really needs to be a patch, ASAP.

I know these sources.
But the CRPG rules aren't identical to the PnP rules which again aren't identical to D&D 3.5.
As I've said I know my way around there, but imho details are missing. And for the details I can't rely on the Pathfinder PnP or D&D3.5 ruleset.

As an example there isn't a "Persuasion" skill in the PnP ruleset.

That's Diplomacy and Intimidate and the game does separate checks for them using Persuasion skill value + your classes/races bonuses for diplomacy/intimidate (example: Half-orcs get an intimidate bonus but no diplomacy bonus). I'm pretty sure that's explained somewhere (I saw that info before the game released though).

Still no response on being able to get a key, let alone receiving one. Thank goodness my time is limited anyways, but this issue is likely to stop me from supporting any more kick starter game projects in the future.

It's a very poor show, but i think it would be a terrible shame to let it ruin your enthusiasm and openness to giving crowdfunded indies a chance.

For me, it did, because there are too many oldies out there which require you to put the game disc into the drive because of DRM.

Well, I got my preorder e-mail just today.

What about your spam folder ?

I'm monitoring the steam forum for this, and there are a lot of bug reports. It definitely needs work.

That said, I'm more impressed by the game in general, just from some of the comments I'm seeing, and also from watching a bit of the gameplay videos, that I will most likely get this game eventually. But I want to wait for the bugs to be fixed and for a few other things too.

For example, there is a 90 day in game time limit for the 1st segment. I'd prefer if that was taken out entirely, as I tend to be a very slow player and like to take my time exploring games.

Also, I would like access to "cheats" , mainly for a gold cheat because I just prefer not to deal with that stuff in many of these games anymore which in my view are often overly stingy and combined they put in inflated prices for everything…it just gets tedious and not something I consider fun. That said, perhaps Kingmaker did the game economy in a better way than the usual seen lately in rpgs, which would be great - I don't know for sure.

Other things that need to be added - much more extensive portraits in the game. I read many complaints that there is a very limited selection. Also, much better and more extensive explanations for the rules and the systems all around in the game. This is another complaint I'm seeing. A lack of good info in the game as to what things do and how things work and it is leaving players "blind".

I'll play it eventually, but I definitely don't regret skipping it at release. It's easy to see this is one of those games that's going to receive significant patches and probably some balance tweaks as well.

Because beta testing was done on steam only for Kingmaker.

Yeah, I've been watching my spam file as well. Since they don't send keys, it's more watching for a response to my emails, but at this point I'm not hoping on that anymore. I'll give it another day and then file a complaint with kick starter, with my history I'm guessing they will actually listen to me.

This is the BEST game I have play the last year and maybe more

Have you tried the commenting on the kickstarter. Who knows what channels they are watching but they are probably flooded.

Yup I made several posts on the kick starter campaign comments section, hence how I was able to see that I wasn't the only person experiencing problems. Ten minutes ago I got sorted out, got all my keys and the game is downloading now. I still don't know what the actual issue was, but I did get it resolved.

I will be buying this game,but by all the comments around the web,better wait for a few patches.That wont be a problem have a few games to finish first….

I just found out another reason why I will need a gold cheat. For some reason, the developers force you to have their pre-designed party companions at first, then later in the game (still relatively early though), you are apparently allowed to buy "mercenaries" which can be added to your party as your own characters that you design.

But the catch is that they are very expensive, starting at 2000 gold each when done early as possible and the prices just keep going up dramatically from there, the later in the game when you decide to purchase one, up to 18000 gold even, is one price I saw quoted. One major problem I have with the party companions is their voice acting, from what I can tell from watching gameplay vids, ranges from bad to just awful ("Linzi") to the point that it would bother me quite a bit.

The bonuses of creating your own party are several to me. I wouldn't have to deal with juvenile, terrible voice acting, and get to design each character how I would want it. So a gold cheat would let me do all this easily, and play the game with 5 characters, all of which I had personally designed (like Icewind Dale)

Or, perhaps there is a companion or two who I decide that I like later in the game, then I could keep the one or two companions I like, and have the rest of my party made up of "mercenaries", my own designed characters.

I wholly recommend the game just perhaps not just yet. I put a proper shift in last night only for a series of bugs to ruin the experience. This culminated in an error message when exiting to main menu and all my manual saves deleting themselves. This is widely reported so I guess I should be patient but I am surprised these problems weren't picked up prior to release.

That sounds like a horrible design, not being able to pick your party classes or having to spend a huge amount of cash to do so. I learned years ago not to play most games the day/week of first release, so that's what I'll do with this one as well.

I backed this game and I'm so proud of it. 20 hours of gameplay. The game lives up to its promise. I'm also so pissed off by the steam reviews. A lot of negative reviews by kids that never played a single tabletop RPG in their life, saying that the game is difficult, that the resting system is bad. The resting system is perfect, the game uses almost every Pathfinder rule. Yeah, the tabletop is difficult! Want stupid and easy gameplay go play PoE. So many negative reviews. I even saw negative reviews complaining about SJW in the game… seriously…. what the hell….

I've been watching streams. If a GM balanced a campaign like this they would suck.