RPGWatch Feature - Kingdom Come: Deliverance Review
 

Here is forgottenlor's review of Kingdom Com: Deliverance. A game which impressed him.

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Thank you, forgottenlor, for this excellent review. I enjoyed reading it, and it made me decide to return to the game one of these days, which I abandoned after having to do a race to win somebody a horse to assure a widow an income. I was lousy in the race because I stepped into the challenge too soon, meaning I was not good enough yet.

Anyway, thanks!

Thank you forgottenlor for excellent reading opportunity. I played 130 hours and enjoyed it a lot. I think it was my game of the year.

The race sidequest is IMO the only inexcusable rubbish content in KCD. I won it but it doesn't mean it's not a design crime in such an awsome game. Some will argue a few hunting fetch quests suck too, but cmon, sucking for sakes to net you some cash with easy to complete sides if you won't go thievery and torturing a player with GTAlike garbage is not the same thing.

As for the review, nice! Thanks @forgottenlor

Still my GOTY it was a breath of fresh air instead of another fantasy game.:nod:

Also thanks for taking your time to review the game @forgottenlor

Thank you @forgottenlor - I linked your review to the Steam Curation page.

Thanks for the excellent review @forgottenlor ! Enjoyed reading it :)

I've been watching my hubby play this game - I don't think he built Henry quite charismatic, which I thought wad reflected through the voice over. I wonder if Henry in your game sounds different?

Another great game I will pass up :( there's always a fear I will get motion sickness and I just can't RP male protagonist sigh.

Great review, Forgottenlor! This makes me want to buy the game :)

Well done!

The horse race seemed fun to me. I went cross country, got well behind, went cross country again, and won!

The monastery, however, has stopped me cold. I love the music but the gameplay is blah. I want to get out of there without killing anyone but….

Is the life in monastery supposed to be fun? :)
You can make it a bit fun though, if you'll explore the whole area and not rush the main quest only.

Btw you can solve the quest without killing anyone in the monastery, but in my case of playing the release version it caused additional bugs on top of display chores till doomsday so I killed the (proper) guy. Dunno what of it was fixed as I refuse to replay the game without all of DLCs.

Nicely done. KC: D really was a pleasant surprise for me as well, especially the main quest, as you mentioned. Its scope and quality is excellent, and the world is beautifully crafted. I also agree that it definitely feels like an AAA game.

I pretty much agree with the review so far - the town's look much the same (in terms of what they contain) - which may be accurate but is a bit dull.

For me the combat is the worst part though. I love the atmosphere, setting…but I simply can't master the melee system. My attacks are glacial…and enemies seem to be able to wallop me repeatedly very quickly. The issue is the combat rosette which shows attack directions - mapping it to mouse move was not a good idea (for me at any rate) - I am used to mouselook +WASD…now suddenly the mouse is delicately(!) moving a directional arrow in the heat of combat, with multiple people beating on me etc. I've tried feinting (I undertand how these moves work, but always too slow) … I often incorrectly flip the attack to the wrong direction at the last second by making a tiny reflexive move as I desperately try and deal with multiple enemies (or even one very fast enemy). I know what I want to do it, but the interface interferes. And no matter how fast I change attrack direction and strike, they always seem to block. The only way I beat one armoured guy was to 'clinch' him to death! (while jabbing him wiht a mace of all things)

You are also told to move constantly, yet a dodge requires tapping a directional key at the right moment, which you can't do if you are moving (as opposed to rotating to look at someone).

I undertand that you are not meant to be good, but I have played gothic and even Darksouls with varying levels of success and never felt this frustrated. I tried using the bow, but that is also quite hard for an uncoordinated person…Although I tend to hit better (but people don't die from one arrow an dthen they all swarm you).

Anyway, I'm enjoying it except for the side quests and the combat.

Another game that I simply must get to, hopefully sometime in the upcoming year. All these new games are seriously impacting me playing my old classical favourites, but I guess that's a good thing.

Your experience with sword fighting mirrors mine. The only DS like game I've played is Lords of the Fallen, and I find the melee combat in that game tough, but much easier to understand and play then in Kingdom Come. You can one shot a number of enemies with a bow. You need to hit the head. If the opponent has a helm it makes matters worse, but I killed a number of enemies with two-three arrows, while jogging backwards. I also died a few times in harder fights, but still never found the combat too excruciating with the bow. It helps to have a high skill and walk backward while firing. A good hit staggers an enemy temporarily also.

I killed no one in the monestary. I actually didn't do a lot of killing in the game in general. The most annoying thing about the quest was you couldn't use savior schnapps and it can take some time to finish the main quest if you don't stumble on the right solution. I did think it was cool in that the tasks you had to complete in that part of the game felt different than the rest of the game, but like I say if you don't get the right solution it can become very repetitive and can get boring.

@forgottenlor - I think I will try the bow approach, I have used it a little, but my bow skill is still very low (i have to be quite close to hit anything - damn deer!) I stumbled into a cuman ambush (5!)…needless to say that did not end well, managed to take down one archer but the big guy with a pole-arm beat me to death. I had too little stamina to flee :rolleyes: (I tried to run away frantically whistling for Pebbles…treacherous beast)

The bow skill lets you hold the drawn bow longer without losing stamina and shaking and helps aim a little more precisely. Having a higher strength & agility let you use better bows which do more damage. Also having a few high damage expensive arrows on hand for tough opponents is worth it. A 5 cuman ambush is tough. I survived one killing all 5 cumins near the end of the game, but I had really good equipment (good armour makes a huge difference).

completely agree with both pro and con !
Empty wilderness stands out for me as a con.

totally agree:
Well designed main quests
Well executed story and mechanics

Good review !
for a fantastic game !

Thanks for the review. I backed the KS but haven't gotten round to this game yet. Kinda waiting until I get a new computer to start it.

Is there any word yet on the sequel (or next "chapters", if you will)? IIRC, this was supposed to be only part 1 of 3, with each part expanding the game world.

EDIT: Hmm, according to this interview:
Too bad, I feel expanding the current map and make one big game would be nicer, though I guess that might not be feasible due to performance issues.

The planned chapters from the kickstarter were scraped due to time, and the amount of resources needed to make all three parts. So in the end it was made into one game.

Basically they cut some content but finished all three. There is still two more DLC's to be released by next year, and I'm sure Warhorse will make a true sequel one day.

https://forum.kingdomcomerpg.com/upl…880db87a22.jpg

I didn't know that the game was supposed to be bigger. While the game has a definite finish, there are a number of unresolved issues inviting a sequel.

The game was supposed to be a trilogy.
During development, two parts were crammed into one game. KCD release has acts 1 and 2. The third one will be the sequel.
Whoever posted before, yes, because of this some things had to be cut out, not that it matters much IMO.

At least this is the word on the street and when you (or me) think about it after finishing the game, it does feel true.

What to lazy to read as I posted on the last page on the bottom before forgottenlor.:p

Don't recall reading about the third part being the sequel Joxer. As I could not find the kickstarter updates among 77 of them that explained this decision. Maybe you can.

The bit empty wilderness complaint is a bit strange to me, after all KCD is not supposed to be like potatoland Skyrim with dungeon every 50 meters and bandits and animals everywhere. It takes place in real world and so it is faithful to it and immensely atmospheric.

Good review though.

Kingdom Come: Deliverance - Band of Bastards DLC Released - Steam

The Real Swordfighting behind Kingdom Come Trailer

Band of Bastards is the final DLC right?

There should be one more left plus the promised mod tools finally.

https://forum.kingdomcomerpg.com/upl…880db87a22.jpg

They should have worked on the mod tools for release, in my opinion. It's such a shame that they couldn't make it before - because I doubt people will bother to the same extent as when it was fresh.

The final DLC is supposed to be roleplaying a part of the game as fallen madonna with big boobies.

Hum. Never seen madonna with a very large sword.

The final DLC will follow Teresa from the games beginning. It's supposed to explain how she escaped Skalitz after the towns sacking, and after Henry fled like a coward.

As for mod tools/support yes it should have been released first instead of story DLC. Though it might be a problem with the Crytek engine licensing, and other legal crap.

I don't think I'll be waiting for that last DLC, and I'm not sure if there's much more to come in the way of patches.

Now I just need to find the time to fully dive into this. :)

I think I spent around 50-60 hours on it - and I wasn't entirely thorough.

I can only recommend having at least a week off for this one, as it's not a great game to leave and come back to :)

Kingdom Come: Deliverance - One Year Anniversary Trailer

Love the review comments they've selected at 0:32 in the vid.

Well, in my playthrough Henry saved her from some rapists while being chased by a couple of soldiers. That wouldn't classify him as a coward in my book.

Stats on other forums say otherwise as half of players got killed or ran away. So thanks for the late post & I'm glad you saved her. I did multiple times as well.

Still a percentage of players look to have not and thus why choice matters in the game.

I suspect a lot of players didn't even know about the event, like me. The quest told me to run, and I did, to the side of where that whole thing played out. I only learned about it later.

Kingdom Come: Deliverance: Live Soundtrack Concert


Kingdom Come: Deliverance Royal Edition Announced -Techraptor

Just a reminder the last DLC will soon be released.