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HiddenX June 25th, 2019 20:16

The Sinking City - First Reviews
 
Here are the first reviews for the adventure RPG The Sinking City:

Twinfinite - Score: 4/5

Tech Advisor - Score: 4.5/5

PC Invasion - Score: 7/10

True Achievements - Score: 3/5

Bloody-Disgusting - Score: 3/5



More information.

Nereida June 25th, 2019 20:56

Another Epic Game Store game that's so easy to ignore.

skally_wag June 25th, 2019 22:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nereida (Post 1061573492)
Another Epic Game Store game that's so easy to ignore.

For the moment, but I will definitely be playing this.

joxer June 25th, 2019 22:59

Even if the game sux, as long as it's on PC I'm buying. Because:
Quote:

This game contains mature content recommended only for ages 18+
No I don't care they stole Hitchhiker's Guide idea and advertised Lovecraft whatever, everyone does that anyway.

JDR13 June 25th, 2019 23:43

Anyone dismissing this before playing it obviously isn't a fan of Lovecraft. This will be a day 1 purchase for me. It's not as if June has had much to offer us anyways.

joxer June 25th, 2019 23:46

I'm not that type of fan. Being fan of his actual works is something that stays on it's own, every second game waving his name is seriously getting on my nerves.
At least this time it's not ESRB teen crap.

Nereida June 26th, 2019 00:22

I'm not the biggest Lovecraft fan, but I'm a pretty hardcore DnD fan and that doesn't mean that Sword Coast Legends wasn't shit. I don't have time for 3/5 rabble, much less that come with forceful Epic Game Store cancer.

JDR13 June 26th, 2019 01:11

Looks like trolling is in the air today. :)

Ivanwah June 26th, 2019 10:54

I'm currently playing Vampyr at the moment and I like it so far (I'm only 3-4 hours in, though). This game gives me the same feeling, I'll be sure to check it out once I finish Vampyr.

booboo June 26th, 2019 10:59

I bought it in the Epic store and have invested a few hours - I am a Lovecraft fan and play desktop CoC, so perhaps I have overly high expectations. My feelings are mixed at this point…
+ atmosphere is great
+ the investigation mechanic is interesting
+ story is interesting
~ combat is OK (I didn't expect anything complex)
-exploration….most of the buildngs cannot be entered…and reward for exploring (so far) is not that great
- city is populated by walking, silent non-respnsive NPC's, seems very ''dead".
- dying has no real consequence - you just respawn
- sanity losses seem a bit arbitrary (but you can munch a pill and get sanity back).
- skill tree is boring. Nothing really 'mythos' related.
- NPC's sometime pop into existence ….I thouht that was an hallucination, but I think not!

I was hoping for someting like CoC: DCotE…it shares similarities, but that game was just vastly better (based on what I have seen so far).

danutz_plusplus June 26th, 2019 14:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by booboo (Post 1061573579)
I bought it in the Epic store and have invested a few hours - I am a Lovecraft fan and play desktop CoC, so perhaps I have overly high expectations. My feelings are mixed at this point…
+ atmosphere is great
+ the investigation mechanic is interesting
+ story is interesting
~ combat is OK (I didn't expect anything complex)
-exploration….most of the buildngs cannot be entered…and reward for exploring (so far) is not that great
- city is populated by walking, silent non-respnsive NPC's, seems very ''dead".
- dying has no real consequence - you just respawn
- sanity losses seem a bit arbitrary (but you can munch a pill and get sanity back).
- skill tree is boring. Nothing really 'mythos' related.
- NPC's sometime pop into existence ….I thouht that was an hallucination, but I think not!

I was hoping for someting like CoC: DCotE…it shares similarities, but that game was just vastly better (based on what I have seen so far).

I'm surprised how we're able to start the game, even though it releases tomorrow? Weird.

One thing that surprised me was how big the city map is. Pretty huge for an adventure game.

screeg June 26th, 2019 14:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061573514)
No I don't care they stole Hitchhiker's Guide idea and advertised Lovecraft whatever, everyone does that anyway.

What?

I love Lovecraft. Still waiting for an isometric, turn-based, non-adventure-style Lovecraft game. (might be waiting for a long time)

vurt June 26th, 2019 14:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by screeg (Post 1061573608)
What?

I love Lovecraft. Still waiting for an isometric, turn-based, non-adventure-style Lovecraft game. (might be waiting for a long time)

There's a few of those

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2…e_Wasted_Land/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/7…_the_Old_Ones/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/8…hulhu_Tactics/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/9…RLD_OF_HORROR/

probably more..

JDR13 June 26th, 2019 15:02

Not sure that last one fits the bill. :)

danutz_plusplus June 26th, 2019 15:33

ACG is pretty good at reviewing, so he seems to like it, except for technical glitches and limitations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRNrli3XezM

JDR13 June 26th, 2019 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by danutz_plusplus (Post 1061573619)
ACG is pretty good at reviewing, so he seems to like it, except for technical glitches and limitations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRNrli3XezM

Coincidentally, I just watched that a little while ago. It sounds like it's a little rough around the edges, but it might be one of those flawed gems if you dig the setting.

vurt June 26th, 2019 16:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061573613)
Not sure that last one fits the bill. :)

yeah it's only turn based not isometric, might be adventure-like as well so..

booboo June 26th, 2019 18:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by danutz_plusplus (Post 1061573607)
I'm surprised how we're able to start the game, even though it releases tomorrow? Weird.

One thing that surprised me was how big the city map is. Pretty huge for an adventure game.

If you pre-purchased on the Epic store you got access 48 hours earlier.

The city map is big, but feels rather empty since only the streets/waterways can really be explored (with a few key buildings that are plot relevant and others there for looting). That coupled with the silent crowds makes it feel very odd.

Ripper June 26th, 2019 20:14

Sounds like it could have done with a bit longer in the oven. Still, if we're saying the atmosphere is great, and it's likely to be enjoyed by Lovecraft fans, I'll definitely give it a whirl.

I'm always a bit skeptical of Lovecraft adaptations, as I think the nameless ineffable horrors are best conjured in the mind, from the page, and physical representations never quite do it justice.

JDR13 June 26th, 2019 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripper (Post 1061573653)
I'm always a bit skeptical of Lovecraft adaptations, as I think the nameless ineffable horrors are best conjured in the mind, from the page, and physical representations never quite do it justice.

I agree. I also think that's exacerbated by the fact that most of the video game adaptions we've received so far were a bit heavy on the jank.

lackblogger June 26th, 2019 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by danutz_plusplus (Post 1061573619)
ACG is pretty good at reviewing, so he seems to like it, except for technical glitches and limitations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRNrli3XezM

His recommendation was: Wait for a sale.

His comments about the game are very similar to @booboo 's.

I've followed Frogwares since the beginning, played a lot of the early titles and, for me, it was always a case of enjoying them until I didn't and I never completed one of their games. Quite a strange and unusual situation, liking the idea of the game but always getting turned off by the sheer chunkiness to the point of quitting, but more from disappointed rolled eyes than rage.

Since then I found a Youtuber who specialises in Frogwares titles, and who also specialises in Cthulu (Frogwares have been teasing Chtulu in most of their games for years and have already made a fully Cthulu themed game called Magrunner, which I bet barely anyone here has even heard of?), and I've found that I can enjoy watching him play them all so I can get the sense of joy their games give without the torment of actually having to play them.

And this game looks to me like classic Frogwares. The extent you like it will probably rely more on your ability to enjoy Frogware games than your love of Cthulu. It looks like another fun game imprisoned in a frustratingly awkward, semi-soulless adventure that one would buy, in the olden days, as a deep sale curiosity. The little things you take for granted in most other games will be noticeably absent.

As for supporting them in the hope that they'll one day make a good game, they kinda already did with Sherlock Holmes: Crimes and Punishments in 2014, a game which finally seemed like they'd found a way to make what they do mass appealing and non-janky. Unfortunately, the follow-up showed this to be a false hope and they completely failed to build upon their success nor seem to get what it was that made C&P more popular than their other games.

There'll be enjoyment to have, but it will come with many little niggles dragging you down the more you play.

Arkadia7 June 26th, 2019 21:26

ACG did a pretty good review of this one. I don't like the graphics style at all. The game is ugly (to me). It looks very clunky to me as well. Specifically watch how the main character appears on the screen in front of you. The perspective looks weird. To me, something seems…off about it.

I would recommend watching his review because it shows a lot of game play and what it looks like….https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRNrli3XezM

Edited: Oops, I posted without reading the above posts referring to the ACG review. Glad to see others are also talking about it though! :blush: (how embarrassing)
(Hey - you guys made several good comments about the ACG review, rpg watch is right on target, as usual!)

JDR13 June 26th, 2019 23:38

I think the game looks pretty good from an artistic standpoint (ACG said something similar), but a few things ACG pointed out are a little immersion breaking - like random NPCs repeating the same actions in the same locations too often.

The atmosphere seems solid though. I'm looking forward to jumping in tomorrow albeit with slightly lower expectations now.

Ripper June 26th, 2019 23:46

I wonder if it's the sort of project that might get significant work done on it after release.

lackblogger June 27th, 2019 17:53

Jim Sterling finds himself trapped within a Frogware's game:

loading…

joxer June 27th, 2019 23:48

Watched (wasted time?) till cca 6th minute. It didn't look so bad.

Then JS noted - respawns. Everything respawns.
Turned off vid. Money saved. Buh-bye.


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