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HiddenX September 4th, 2019 14:17

Cyberpunk 2077 - Multiplayer is in the Works
 
CD Project Red recruits MP specialists for Cyberpunk 2077:

Quote:

1/2 Until now, the only thing we said about multi was that it was in R&D. As we're getting closer to launching 'single player' Cyberpunk 2077 in Apr. 2020, we'd like to confirm that multiplayer's in the works! If you feel like lending us your skills apply:-> Link

More information.

Reiga September 4th, 2019 14:28

I don't get how multiplayer can work for this game, and for example for Dying Light 2, when you add decisions that can alter the game then multiplayer can ruin the experience too easily…..

I'd still prefer a witcher game similar to borderlands, you create a withcer and go take contracts with witcher pals….

Arkadia7 September 4th, 2019 14:43

Uh oh, not a good sign. Hopefully the single player experience will remain unaffected.

you September 4th, 2019 14:52

Well now that cyberpunk 2077 is officially an mmo i guess @joxer won't be able to play it per his mmo rule…..

henriquejr September 4th, 2019 15:05

I think a multiplayer mode, in this game, is completely unnecessary, plain and simple. Period.

Nereida September 4th, 2019 15:51

Incoming lootboxes.

JFarrell71 September 4th, 2019 15:54

Can we not freak out about this? Please?

henriquejr September 4th, 2019 16:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFarrell71 (Post 1061580349)
Can we not freak out about this? Please?

Too late :P

lackblogger September 4th, 2019 16:16

This news is just a cunning way to find out why @joxer is taking his longest break from the site for months isn't it.

Carnifex September 4th, 2019 16:17

Ughh, I don't like where this conversation is heading. Multiplayer seems to be the dearth of the single player experience, at least from my perspective.

henriquejr September 4th, 2019 16:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by lackblogger (Post 1061580353)
This news is just a cunning way to find out why @joxer is taking his longest break from the site for months isn't it.

By "his longest break from the site" you mean 12 hrs ??????

lackblogger September 4th, 2019 17:12

Lol, I shall rephrase.

His longest break from posting why XYZ game has content that is unacceptable and unforgivable :D

JFarrell71 September 4th, 2019 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by henriquejr (Post 1061580351)
Too late :P

Yeah….

Folks. FOLKS. The game development is unaffected. The game is, in fact, probably 98.5% finished except for polishing, optimization, recording all the voice lines, etc. CDPR has been very explicit about single player being their #1 and only priority for launch, including in this very announcement when they said that they are focusing on launching the game in April, putting out free DLC for it, putting out additional (paid) single-player content for it, and THEN introducing some form of multiplayer.

Relax.

JFarrell71 September 4th, 2019 17:35

Btw, somebody on Reddit mentioned a Trauma Team multiplayer mode and that actually sounds pretty cool to me (despite me almost never playing multiplayer of any kind.) Naturally, the largest contingent is clamoring for co-op through the campaign, but I think that's very unlikely. But a more self-contained, Left for Dead like mode where you and a few peeps play a Trauma Team trying to get to clients while dealing with environmental threats (gangs, etc) and possibly competing Trauma Teams, now that's something I could see working.

HiddenX September 4th, 2019 17:47

On the other hand Bethesda went MP with ESO and we are waiting for a SP Elder Scrolls game for many years now.

GabrielMP_19 September 4th, 2019 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFarrell71 (Post 1061580371)
Yeah….

Folks. FOLKS. The game development is unaffected. The game is, in fact, probably 98.5% finished except for polishing, optimization, recording all the voice lines, etc. CDPR has been very explicit about single player being their #1 and only priority for launch, including in this very announcement when they said that they are focusing on launching the game in April, putting out free DLC for it, putting out additional (paid) single-player content for it, and THEN introducing some form of multiplayer.

Relax.

I'll be probably like GTA V online. A separate multiplayer experience to get money from the players forever. I also believe that the base game will remain unaffected. This is not EA we're talking about.

Lucky Day September 4th, 2019 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nereida (Post 1061580348)
Incoming lootboxes.

Unless its a facebook phone game, I'm not buying!

https://pics.me.me/keanu-reeves-and-…c-58254521.png

JDR13 September 4th, 2019 18:36

Could be fun. I also don't see it impacting the single-player at all. That's mostly finished at this point, and it sounds like the multiplayer is coming afterwards and from a separate team.

sakichop September 4th, 2019 18:49

I don't have a problem with games having multiplayer. As long as it’s not a 5 hour single player campaign tacked on to an obviously multiplayer game which this obviously isn’t.

Besides this is CDPR. In a couple days they will release something saying Cyberpunk is a single player game first and foremost and everyone will rejoice and sing their praises again.

Capt. Huggy Face September 4th, 2019 19:17

Normally, I hate MP, and it ruins SP games. But not always. I'm going with the GTA crowd here with my suspicions. I bet they're going the GTA route, which really didn't affect the SP in that game. Hopefully, they don't veer onto a path similar to Bethesda's.

ChienAboyeur September 4th, 2019 19:30

This vid product is a gift. CDR Projekt can do no wrong.

If ever, as it is expected, this vid product is low on gameplay, watching the woke crowd defending their vid product on the simple ground it matches their ideology will be worthwhile.

Capt. Huggy Face September 4th, 2019 19:42

Personally, I didn't even like the last Witcher game that much, though they created a nice world with some of the best dialogue I've heard in a video game.

JFarrell71 September 4th, 2019 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChienAboyeur (Post 1061580395)
This vid product is a gift. CDR Projekt can do no wrong.

If ever, as it is expected, this vid product is low on gameplay, watching the woke crowd defending their vid product on the simple ground it matches their ideology will be worthwhile.

You are tiresome.

joxer September 4th, 2019 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by lackblogger (Post 1061580353)
This news is just a cunning way to find out why @joxer is taking his longest break from the site for months isn't it.

LOL

I was under siege (family at small space) for weeks, the siege is over and now I'm grinding Ancestors.
No time for lousy news like this one. Who needs mmo?

I'm not gonna betatest till doomsday yet another mmo, probably named:
Cyberpunk 76.

Ripper September 4th, 2019 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by henriquejr (Post 1061580343)
I think a multiplayer mode, in this game, is completely unnecessary, plain and simple. Period.

The CDPR accountant begs to differ. :p

Zloth September 5th, 2019 05:29

Article on PC Gamer: https://www.pcgamer.com/cyberpunk-20…er-eventually/

So they will provide all the free DLC and updates first, then do multi-player. Still, will there be less DLC because they want to work on multi-player? What about single player paid DLC?

This news just can't be good in my eyes. Best case is that it's only a little bit negative.

Quote:

Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061580404)
I was under siege (family at small space) for weeks, the siege is over and now I'm grinding Ancestors.

Joxer, just because a few of your elderly relatives didn't leave when they should have doesn't give you the right to chop them… oh! The GAME Ancestors! I gotta pay more attention to capitalization.

JFarrell71 September 5th, 2019 05:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zloth (Post 1061580447)
Article on PC Gamer: https://www.pcgamer.com/cyberpunk-20…er-eventually/

So they will provide all the free DLC and updates first, then do multi-player. Still, will there be less DLC because they want to work on multi-player? What about single player paid DLC?

You read the article, but you didn't read the article. They say very explicitly that they will produce DLC AND "single player content" (your single player paid DLC) and "once we're done", produce multiplayer. They have never given any indication whatsoever that they would set aside planned single player content in favor of multiplayer functionality, and in fact have done the exact opposite countless times.

purpleblob September 5th, 2019 06:12

I think I'm the only one who find this good news lol - I wasn't going to play this but now that it's also going MP route, I might play it with hubby.

ChienAboyeur September 5th, 2019 06:46

How to show dedication to SP products:

simple minded people could have thought it is achieved when releasing exclusively single player products.

It is not.

It is achieved when releasing MU products.

Usages:

They are many.

Job: show dedication to a job by taking up another.
Relationship: show dedication to a relationship by starting an affair
Life style: show dedication to a life style by adopting another


CDR Projekt is definitively a SP product dedicated studio.

Capt. Huggy Face September 5th, 2019 06:57

But it does speak a bit to the type of game this may be. So, they're going more the GTA route. More of a shooter, as we already knew, really. But as others have kind of said, this path does sort of come with its own mindset. Personally, I don't need another GTA, if that's who they're squaring off with next.

Zloth September 5th, 2019 07:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFarrell71 (Post 1061580448)
You read the article, but you didn't read the article. They say very explicitly that they will produce DLC AND "single player content" (your single player paid DLC) and "once we're done", produce multiplayer. They have never given any indication whatsoever that they would set aside planned single player content in favor of multiplayer functionality, and in fact have done the exact opposite countless times.

The follow-up said:
Quote:

"The plan for now is to deliver Cyberpunk 2077 in April, then follow up with DLCs (free!) and single player content, and—once we're done—invite you for some multiplayer action,"
The way I read that, they mean that the DLC will be free. There isn't any paid DLC.

What I'm worried about is that they've decided to multiplayer instead of paid DLC. Now maybe that's wrong. Maybe they are going to give us some Blood & Wine sized DLCs completely free. I rather doubt it, though. I think this time the paid DLC is being replaced by multiplayer.

Hmmm… it could also be that the base game is already as large as Witcher 3 + Heart of Stone + Blood & Wine. Maybe there's no paid DLC because the single player game is already crazy huge!

sakichop September 5th, 2019 12:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zloth (Post 1061580454)
The follow-up said:

The way I read that, they mean that the DLC will be free. There isn't any paid DLC.

What I'm worried about is that they've decided to multiplayer instead of paid DLC. Now maybe that's wrong. Maybe they are going to give us some Blood & Wine sized DLCs completely free. I rather doubt it, though. I think this time the paid DLC is being replaced by multiplayer.

HmmmÂ… it could also be that the base game is already as large as Witcher 3 + Heart of Stone + Blood & Wine. Maybe there's no paid DLC because the single player game is already crazy huge!

My guess is the free dlc will be like the 16 free dlcÂ’s they released for the Witcher 3 and the single player content will be like blood and wine which they will call expansions to make it appear that they don't charge for dlc.

ChienAboyeur September 5th, 2019 13:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt. Huggy Face (Post 1061580392)
Normally, I hate MP, and it ruins SP games. But not always. I'm going with the GTA crowd here with my suspicions. I bet they're going the GTA route, which really didn't affect the SP in that game.

No.
Sure, as CDR Projekt failed to developp their own PR model, they are trying to hijack Rockstar's.

But Rockstar never hid their MU features, they publicized them and they hyped them.

CDR Projekt rode the wave of the mass hysteria big, bad corps are killing SP, big, bad corps want SP dead. CDR Projekt were pictured as the last stronghold, the last hope.

Then the news about CP 2077 and its MU features was leaked to test waters.
And the planning of releases was scheduled to give an exit to all players who were chanting death to big, bad corps, they want SP dead, long live CDR Projekt, the last saviour of mankind.

Nothing to do with Rockstar's behaviour.

The conclusion is foregone once again: The unshaking players support to SP is going to morph into they do not mind MU as long as it is done the CDR Projekt way.

Big, bad corps should learn from CDR projekt the right way to support SP gaming.

JDR13 September 5th, 2019 19:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakichop (Post 1061580466)
My guess is the free dlc will be like the 16 free dlcÂ’s they released for the Witcher 3 and the single player content will be like blood and wine which they will call expansions to make it appear that they don't charge for dlc.

Eh? Why wouldn't they call them expansions if that's what they are? If they release something that's comparable to Blood and Wine content-wise, I'd certainly call that an expansion.

JFarrell71 September 5th, 2019 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061580489)
Eh? Why wouldn't they call them expansions if that's what they are? If they release something that's comparable to Blood and Wine content-wise, I'd certainly call that an expansion.

That's just semantics. Whatever they call them, they make a distinction between the free and the "single player content" which comes after. Given the history of how they supported The Witcher 3, it's not a reach to expect that they mean something similar.

JDR13 September 5th, 2019 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFarrell71 (Post 1061580491)
That's just semantics. Whatever they call them, they make a distinction between the free and the "single player content" which comes after. Given the history of how they supported The Witcher 3, it's not a reach to expect that they mean something similar.

My point was the difference between them is obvious. You can't reasonably expect DLC over a certain size to be free.

Plus if this were any other AAA developer, they'd be nickel & diming us for each and every one of those smaller DLCs.


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