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HiddenX October 17th, 2019 22:01

Edit Eye:

Intro

This is a spin-off of the thread Six Ages - Released in the News section.

I cut and pasted posts of that thread to this one as requested by @HiddenX in his post #12 saying the following:
Quote:

Maybe we should move this to a new RPG-Maker thread, @Eye beginning with post #4.
@crpgnut posted that 4th post (aimed at HiddenX), which will be the second post in this thread, so coming right after this edited post of HiddenX.

If anyone that has posted in that thread objects to the move to this one, please send me a PM.

Eye

crpgnut October 17th, 2019 23:40

RPG-Maker games
 
C'mon. You've been showing Einlander on Steam for weeks and it's not released. How'd ya get it? BTW, I think free copies for your advertising of a game is only fair. The RPGWatch curator gig is popular. It wasn't a criticism but admiration :D

Ooh, are you translating Einlander for us English speaking hooligans? Goody!

HiddenX October 18th, 2019 00:27

Einlanzer has been released on 2 Mar, 2017 on Steam. A great game by the way.

I have bought all my Steam games myself - you have to tell Steam if you use a free review copy for curation - I never do this.

HiddenX October 18th, 2019 00:27

Einlanzer has been released on 2 Mar, 2017 on Steam. A great game by the way.

I have bought all my Steam games myself - you have to tell Steam if you use a free review copy for curation - I never do this.

you October 18th, 2019 02:22

Tell us more about Einlanzer….

Quote:

Originally Posted by HiddenX (Post 1061584047)
Einlanzer has been released on 2 Mar, 2017 on Steam. A great game by the way.

I have bought all my Steam games myself - you have to tell Steam if you use a free review copy for curation - I never do this.


kazga October 18th, 2019 06:54

I watched Nookrium try it out and it looks fantastic (just like KoDP).

Quote:

Originally Posted by HiddenX (Post 1061584047)
Einlanzer has been released on 2 Mar, 2017 on Steam. A great game by the way.

You should really cover some older games. :) Most seem to slip under my radar but get rarely mentioned again.
EDIT: There seems to be a section in forums for this. Will have to look it up.

wiretripped October 18th, 2019 11:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by HiddenX (Post 1061584019)
I'm covering this, because many Watchers like King of Dragon Pass and this game is a spiritual successor of it.

Yep, me being one. Thanks for the head's up.

forgottenlor October 18th, 2019 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by you (Post 1061584060)
Tell us more about Einlanzer….

Its an RPGMaker game, I haven't played it myself, but HiddenX tries out a lot of these games. They are very reasonable. Einlanzer is like 4 euros for a 40 hour game. I also have played a number of these game, since I own the engine software and like to see what other people manage to do with it. Some are quite good, others less so. Also, you have to be willing to put up with the stlye of the graphics and primitive presentation. Currently I have less time in general for computer games, so I've been limiting my purchases to games I'm very optimistic I'll enjoy, which means its been awhile since I've bought a game like this.

you October 18th, 2019 19:22

Thanks but is this one particularly well written with interesting story and quests and character development or is it the endless grind with minimal fluff to keep the grind going that some of these games become ?

There was another rpgmaker game that @HiddenX had mentioned several times that was suppose to be well written (not sure how it compares to this game) ?

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Originally Posted by forgottenlor (Post 1061584106)
Its an RPGMaker game, I haven't played it myself, but HiddenX tries out a lot of these games. They are very reasonable. Einlanzer is like 4 euros for a 40 hour game. I also have played a number of these game, since I own the engine software and like to see what other people manage to do with it. Some are quite good, others less so. Also, you have to be willing to put up with the stlye of the graphics and primitive presentation. Currently I have less time in general for computer games, so I've been limiting my purchases to games I'm very optimistic I'll enjoy, which means its been awhile since I've bought a game like this.


HiddenX October 18th, 2019 19:53

Einlanzer has a well written storyline and not much grinding. On the other hand it features very challenging end-bosses. I would compare it to Wizardry 7 difficulty-wise. The game world is very big and opens more and more.

I have made an RPG-Maker sublist on our Steam-Curator that features the very best RPG-Maker games:
  • Echoes of Aetheria
  • Einlanzer
  • The Great Gaias
  • Ara Fell
  • Astoria: The Holders of Power Saga

HiddenX October 18th, 2019 19:55

Maybe we should move this to a new RPG-Maker thread, @Eye :) beginning with post #4.

Eye October 18th, 2019 21:57

RPG-Maker games
 
@HiddenX.
Done.

crpgnut October 18th, 2019 22:04

I'm not normally into the RPG-Maker stuff at all but the Einlanzer game looked pretty decent. If you get some spare moments to do a mini-review, I'm all shells.

P.S. No wonder I couldn't find it on Steam. I thought it was Einlander….

Carnifex October 19th, 2019 02:51

I've a friend that raved about Dragon's Twilight, which I believe is a rpg-maker type game, which I picked up today for like two dollars. I play quite a bit of these types to be honest, some of the mechanics can be tough to adapt to, but I tend to enjoy most of them, they remind me of the very best from the late eighties/early nineties in computer gaming.

HiddenX October 19th, 2019 11:10

Dragons' Twilight is based on a novel, so the story and characters are well written.

I just saw the second part was released in August!

Ragnaris October 20th, 2019 20:08

Intriguing! I was deep into RPG Maker games about five years ago. Despite what people say, you can find some real gems in there. More often than not, they're worth the price of admission. At least, in my experience they have been.

I really enjoyed Skyborn. A bit on the pricier side, but a very well told story with lovable characters that face difficult decisions, enjoyable boss fights, and adorably heartfelt. Absolutely worth looking into when it's on sale. Not quite as lengthy as a 40 hour trek, however. I'd probably put it around 20 hours.

Carnifex October 20th, 2019 21:38

For me, it's all about having a decent story complimented with good combat mechanics. Most of the rpg-maker games that I've played do very well on both of these fronts, and have solid replay value as well.

Ragnaris October 23rd, 2019 07:50

Agreed. I've found that RPG Maker games can at least lay the foundation for creators, and with that foundation, some games have been able to flourish incredibly well with balancing, too.

Hidden, your curated list has my attention. I'm going to be looking at some of these titles this weekend. I suspect I'm in for a treat or two. :cool:

HiddenX October 23rd, 2019 17:46

Meanwhile I can recommend Dragons' Twilight and Dragons' Twilight II as well.

you October 23rd, 2019 20:38

But they usually aren't very pretty.

HiddenX October 23rd, 2019 21:33

You don't play RPG-Maker games for prettiness.

Devs using the RPG-Maker engine can focus on the story, characters and gameworld instead of optimizing gfx. So if you are able to live with mediocre gfx you can find some RPG gems among many RPG-Maker releases.

It is very similar to the NWN1 modding scene.

lackblogger October 23rd, 2019 23:40

Thanks for these recommendations. It's nice that someone's finally wheedled out some HiddenX stuff.

you October 24th, 2019 01:53

Is the issue the engine or the effort to come up with better sprites/terrain ? I play these sort of games time to time (such as eschalon and jeff stuff) but it is hard to judge the rpg maker games since so many look the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HiddenX (Post 1061584689)
You don't play RPG-Maker games for prettiness.

Devs using the RPG-Maker engine can focus on the story, characters and gameworld instead of optimizing gfx. So if you are able to live with mediocre gfx you can find some RPG gems among many RPG-Maker releases.

It is very similar to the NWN1 modding scene.


Carnifex October 24th, 2019 22:16

Great Gaias is an excellent game as well, I think it kept me fully engaged for almost a solid month.


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