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Silver November 29th, 2019 05:01

Owlcat Games - Guess Our Next Game Competition
 
Owlcat Games will soon announce their next game and have organised a competition on Facebook to make it more interesting.

Quote:

It is time to announce something. You were waiting for it for a long, long time and, now, we can say that it is coming! The announcement of our next game! Yes, this is an announcement for an announcement! And it will be really soon. So, in order to help you guess the theme of our next game we've come up with a "Grail Hunting". The rules are simple - there will be posts with #grail_hunting, which you have to share, like or comment. If you are active enough and reach the necessary amount of reactions - you will uncover one (or more!) piece of the picture. And, of course, no one is stopping you from guessing what is coming up in the comments! Good luck, Pathfinders!

https://scontent.fwlg3-1.fna.fbcdn.n…99&oe=5E829380

Thanks purpleblob!

More information.

purpleblob November 29th, 2019 07:10

The same post can be found on their instagram and twitter as well :)

Darkheart November 29th, 2019 07:42

Very nice! Whatever it is, I'm sure we will get an at least very decent RPG out of it.

Morrandir November 29th, 2019 13:56

If it isn't another Pathfinder game I'll be really upset.

But seriously… why wouldn't they do a sequel? They have all the tools and rules (if they retain 1e) ready, would just have to create more content and pimp their engine and gameplay a bit.

Hastar November 29th, 2019 14:00

Barbie Dream House. Please please please! :fingerscrossed:

Archangel November 29th, 2019 14:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morrandir (Post 1061588245)
If it isn't another Pathfinder game I'll be really upset.

But seriously… why wouldn't they do a sequel? They have all the tools and rules (if they retain 1e) ready, would just have to create more content and pimp their engine and gameplay a bit.

100% it is at least in pathfinder universe, they even call their readers Pathfinders.

What we should be worried about if this is some HoMM clone instead of RPG.
1. They are Russians and Russians love their HoMM clones
2. This is a puzzle similar to those found in HoMM

Morrandir November 29th, 2019 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archangel (Post 1061588252)
100% is it at least in pathfinder universe, they even call their readers Pathfinders.

What we should be worried about if this is some HoMM clone instead of RPG.
1. They are Russians and Russians love their HoMM clones
2. This is a puzzle similar to those found in HoMM

You're scaring me.

purpleblob November 29th, 2019 14:44

Never played HoMM series but I hope their next game will be similar to Kingmaker/BG.

borovnica November 29th, 2019 14:49

Probably just a new campaign from the Pathfinder universe.
Since I'm somewhat of a stalker on pathfinder kingmaker reddit, people are thinking it's new campaign based on the existing one called Ironfang Invasion or Wrath of the Righteous.

Also devs from owlcat said that they were playing new campaign module in Pathfinder universe for last couple of months.

Another point would be that they already have a lot of assets and mechanics they can use for their next Pathfinder game which would make sense. Less bugs on the release hopefully.

wolfgrimdark November 29th, 2019 15:55

I would be more than happy to see another Pathfinder game with the current engine and set-up. Hopefully with all the current races, including the added Tieflings, but prefer something new (i.e. the past game was nicely wrapped up and no real loose ends - let that story rest).

I wonder if they will stay away from any SIM like aspects, i.e. the Kingdom? Although once I figured out how to manage my kingdom, and with the various difficulty levels, I loved it. Was fun to manage once I had it down and enjoyed that added dimension.

Not sure I would want to do another and since Kingmaker was somewhat the name of the first one my guess is there won't be.

I would not mind having a class specific player base to set up and manage though. I have always enjoyed those a lot. Doing your own Kingdom was like the extreme end of that, while having a little home would be the other side.

Be nice to have some like in BG2 which I liked, maybe a tad more elaborate. Also lots of companions, factions, relationships, romances, and keep it somewhat open ended in who your character is like in the first game.

Archangel November 29th, 2019 16:06

They already said that they consider added mechanics (like managing your Kingdom) important part of making their RPG stand out in the crowd.

Their next RPG will surely also have something in addition to standard adventuring day stuff.
Personally I love that kind of stuff in my RPGs. I loved it in NWN2 OC, I even loved the merchant company management in NWN2 expansion SoZ.

Hastar November 29th, 2019 17:43

HoMM 3 is one of the greatest games of all time. I would give them big $$ for their kickstarter, if they were making a new HoMM type game.

A new Kingmaker would be sweet also. For me, I would be happy with either game.

Today's RPGWatch news: A new Might and Magic game and maybe a new HoMM game. I've died and gone to Valhalla.

azarhal November 29th, 2019 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morrandir (Post 1061588245)
If it isn't another Pathfinder game I'll be really upset.

But seriously… why wouldn't they do a sequel? They have all the tools and rules (if they retain 1e) ready, would just have to create more content and pimp their engine and gameplay a bit.

The Kingmaker adventure path doesn't have a sequel. ;)

They started to play a new Pathfinder adventure path back in January. I'm sure the new game will be based on it.

Unfortunately, they want something similar to the (not really liked) kingdom management feature from Kingmaker (exclusive to that adventure path) which means they are probably playing Skulls & Shackles…I hope everyone enjoy managing a ship armada and boarding ships.

edit: Could be Hell's Rebel, which is about leading a rebellion against a demon worshiping tyrant.

I personally think they would have more success with a more classical adventure path without any extra management features.

mat9813004 November 29th, 2019 21:07

I started playing Pillars of Eternity 2 (isometric) by Obsidian and have been quite impressed with its party systems, naval setting, quality and cinematic features. It is distracting me from Pathfinder : Kingmaker. I hope OwlCats next game shows a comparable development.

Nereida November 29th, 2019 21:09

This is very good news. I hope it's in advanced development stage, I hate when any company announces anything I'm interested on and that's still more than 12-18 months away. Way to pointlessly hype people.

Alrik Fassbauer November 29th, 2019 21:13

The picture looks to me like medieval european … like I know it from TDE …

Couchpotato November 29th, 2019 21:18

Of course it will be another Pathfinder game as Owlcat have licensed the Ip. Owlcat also talked about this in a past survey and talked about how the next game will be very different from KingMaker.

@purpleblob started a thread with the info - https://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42272

fadedc November 29th, 2019 21:31

Hmm…the HoMM thing sounded far fetched…but they are using the hashtag grail hunting. And turning over puzzle pieces to find the map to the hidden grail was a big part of HoMM.

azarhal November 29th, 2019 21:58

Their little quest seems to be working, they already revealed a section of the image and are asking people for the next one to reveal.

On Twitter: https://twitter.com/OwlcatGames/stat…91712491196416

Morrandir November 29th, 2019 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by azarhal (Post 1061588280)
The Kingmaker adventure path doesn't have a sequel. ;)

Yep, I know. (We're currently playing Pathfinder P&P.) I meant sequel in a way that it should be another Pathfinder game with the same core mechanics.

Morrandir November 29th, 2019 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alrik Fassbauer (Post 1061588296)
The picture looks to me like medieval european … like I know it from TDE …

Yep, could be Ferdok (or any other medium-sized town in the Middenrealm) . :)

purpleblob November 30th, 2019 00:55

First clue is out - its actually a puzzle that opens to reveal clues.

https://twitter.com/OwlcatGames/stat…491196416?s=20

I see what appears to be a blue skeleton.. gah, is it Skulls and Shackles? :(

Vitirr November 30th, 2019 01:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archangel (Post 1061588252)
100% it is at least in pathfinder universe, they even call their readers Pathfinders.

What we should be worried about if this is some HoMM clone instead of RPG.
1. They are Russians and Russians love their HoMM clones
2. This is a puzzle similar to those found in HoMM

Not only that my friend. Owlcat is composed by veterans from Nival Interactive, the russian development company who made Heroes of Might and Magic V. I remember watching the first videos of the Pathfinder project and recognizing some of their faces. HOMMV included this grail hunting minigame, as it was inherited from the great HOMM3.

And let me tell you, if it was indeed a HOMM clone this would make me a really happy man. They would eventually make another Pathfinder RPG anyway, and we're not short of good old style RPGs in any case. But a HOMM like game? Truly HOMM like with its management and tactics layer and a bit of RPG? Those we don't have any unfortunately, and the failures of Ubisoft have left a hungry fanbase behind.

In any case it will most likely be a sequel to Pathfinder but I find very cute of them this little homage to their past. It kind of makes me want to play Pathfinder actually. If only I had the time to play these long games these days…

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hastar (Post 1061588278)
HoMM 3 is one of the greatest games of all time. I would give them big $$ for their kickstarter, if they were making a new HoMM type game.

Amen to that. When we got the kickstarter fever a few years back I always thought it was crazy nobody came up with a spiritual successor to HOMM (I bet if John Van Canaghem had come with such a project it would have been a major success), but it looks like kids are not interested in that kind of games anymore.

Archangel November 30th, 2019 01:57

I mean I loved HoMM 2 and HoMM 3 but I loved BG series more. So I would still prefer another Pathfinder RPG over a HoMM style game. They can make that after.

azarhal November 30th, 2019 02:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by purpleblob (Post 1061588314)
First clue is out - its actually a puzzle that opens to reveal clues.

https://twitter.com/OwlcatGames/stat…491196416?s=20

I see what appears to be a blue skeleton.. gah, is it Skulls and Shackles? :(

Skulls and Shackles is about pirates, that doesn't appear to be that.

The building behind the skeleton suggest Mummy's Mask to me. It's set in a rarely used setting in video games: ancient Egypt (aka Osirion for Pathfinder). It's basically Brendan Fraiser's The Mummy movie series with some Indiana Jones.

Other PF adventure with undeads:
- Carrion Crown which is horror based
- Curse of the Crimson Throne (not as central as in Carrion Crown and Mummy's Mask)

None of these have feature similar like Kingmaker kingdom management, so we might have misunderstood Owlcat's "hook" comment.

purpleblob November 30th, 2019 03:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by azarhal (Post 1061588319)
Skulls and Shackles is about pirates, that doesn't appear to be that.

The building behind the skeleton suggest Mummy's Mask to me. It's set in a rarely used setting in video games: ancient Egypt (aka Osirion for Pathfinder). It's basically Brendan Fraiser's The Mummy movie series with some Indiana Jones.

Other PF adventure with undeads:
- Carrion Crown which is horror based
- Curse of the Crimson Throne (not as central as in Carrion Crown and Mummy's Mask)

None of these have feature similar like Kingmaker kingdom management, so we might have misunderstood Owlcat's "hook" comment.

There's a picture of Owlcat's Pathfinder book collection on instagram and the one right in the middle is Curse of the Crimson Throne!!

fadedc November 30th, 2019 03:34

From looking at that picture it’s not entirely clear if it’s an undead. It appears to be an armored target being blasted by lightning, you can see the helmet flying off. It may be a skeleton but I think it’s more likely it’s just someone in the process of being disintegrated by whatever spell that is.

Darkheart November 30th, 2019 10:47

Does it have to be a module? Can't they just make up their own thingy?

purpleblob November 30th, 2019 11:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkheart (Post 1061588337)
Does it have to be a module? Can't they just make up their own thingy?

I think the deal with Paizo is to use one of their AP. People seem to suspect its Curse of the Crimson Throne so far.

you November 30th, 2019 13:11

Didn't Nival make that wonderful turn base strategy game which name i can't remember. All I remember was I had to shoot through wood but not metal and knock the towers down ;)
-
Anyway I think i would like to see a revival of that game. Having said that I always wonder what is it like to work in Russia; i mean we hear a lot about organize crime and other harsh stuff and is it really that bad if you actually live there or does it only impact the wealthy ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vitirr (Post 1061588315)
Not only that my friend. Owlcat is composed by veterans from Nival Interactive, the russian development company who made Heroes of Might and Magic V. I remember watching the first videos of the Pathfinder project and recognizing some of their faces. HOMMV included this grail hunting minigame, as it was inherited from the great HOMM3.

And let me tell you, if it was indeed a HOMM clone this would make me a really happy man. They would eventually make another Pathfinder RPG anyway, and we're not short of good old style RPGs in any case. But a HOMM like game? Truly HOMM like with its management and tactics layer and a bit of RPG? Those we don't have any unfortunately, and the failures of Ubisoft have left a hungry fanbase behind.

In any case it will most likely be a sequel to Pathfinder but I find very cute of them this little homage to their past. It kind of makes me want to play Pathfinder actually. If only I had the time to play these long games these days…


Amen to that. When we got the kickstarter fever a few years back I always thought it was crazy nobody came up with a spiritual successor to HOMM (I bet if John Van Canaghem had come with such a project it would have been a major success), but it looks like kids are not interested in that kind of games anymore.


Morrandir November 30th, 2019 13:51

Well, their campaign apparently works. ;)

azarhal November 30th, 2019 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkheart (Post 1061588337)
Does it have to be a module? Can't they just make up their own thingy?

According to a person on their official forum who has contacts within Owlcat, Paizo are very strict when it comes to new content. Probably easier to adapt an adventure path which leaves a lots of space for homemade side content and "homebrew" stuff then try to write a whole new thing and get it approved.

Also, they wouldn't be playing this little game if the image under the puzzle wasn't recognizable by Pathfinder pnp players.

Archangel November 30th, 2019 16:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by you (Post 1061588346)
Didn't Nival make that wonderful turn base strategy game which name i can't remember. All I remember was I had to shoot through wood but not metal and knock the towers down ;)
-
Anyway I think i would like to see a revival of that game. Having said that I always wonder what is it like to work in Russia; i mean we hear a lot about organize crime and other harsh stuff and is it really that bad if you actually live there or does it only impact the wealthy ?

It impacts anyone not considered "normal". And normal are those that love traditional values promoted by Putin. You know, it works same like any other dictator system.

And the turn based game you cannot remember is Silent Storm.

Vitirr November 30th, 2019 21:38

They also developed two Etherlords games, which were flawed (especially the first one) but amusing.

fadedc November 30th, 2019 23:52

I actually loved Etherlords 2 at the time and even replayed it once later. Etherlords 1 was completely awful though.

Capt. Huggy Face December 1st, 2019 03:37

I was a big fan of Nival Interactive. Eventually, since these guys seem to be making money, I'd love to see another Silent Storm sequel or one for the often-overlooked Hammer & Sickle.

Couchpotato December 1st, 2019 03:44

Don't forget they made a few other classic games like Rage of Mages & Evil Islands also.

Capt. Huggy Face December 1st, 2019 03:52

Didn't play those. Maybe I should go find them. :)

Alrik Fassbauer December 1st, 2019 17:30

I tried Evil Islands. I gave up. Far too hard for my taste. But I read that especially Russian players like hard difficulties …

Capt. Huggy Face December 1st, 2019 19:09

It's that whole chess-playing tradition. :p

I have no idea if that's actually true, but the Russians and Eastern Europeans are, generally speaking, my favorite developers. First off, there seems to be a real love for RPGs. They also often seem to be more willing to play with the genre -- try some things a bit new. Next, I'd go with the Germans, who also seem to have a real love for RPGs. They're just a bit more traditional, which isn't a bad thing at all.


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