General News - Top 50 PC RPGs
 

Rock Paper Shotgun updated their top 50 PC RPG list:

More information.

In before all the "But games I love are not on the list, and ones I don't agree with are, so this list is pointless" nonsense begins.

You took the time to be in before all that but had nothing to say. It’s not nonsense. It’s the point of these lists, to generate discussion and debate.

I’ll be back with my “nonsense” ;) after i have more time to look at it.

Actually, most of the games I love *are* on the list. A couple aren't, but that's expected from mainstream blind following sites lists (I mean, no Drakensang because RPS never played nonmainstream games).
No discussion could ever change such sites' choices so screw'em. :)

*shudders*

Plenty of good games on that list. Disagree with the order, of course.

I agree with Nereida. Discussions is of course relevant and as sakichop said the point of lists like this.

But there is a huge step from that to I-disagree-with-the-list-so-it is pointless-and-those-who-made-it-are incompetent|insane|corrupt|whatever - we see posts like that regularly. I think that is the his point. (Correct me if I'm wrong).

It's a list based on what RPS thinks. By all means discuss it (the list, that is), but it's just a list. Nothing more, nothing less.

a pibbur who observes that there are 30414093201713378043612608166064768844377641568960 512000000000000 ways to rank a list of 50 games (not counting removals and additions).

PS: You do what you want, of course. This is just my (pointless?) opinion, nothing more, nothing less. DS.

So far there seems to be more people in a state of near panic that someone might laugh uncontrollably at the list than there are people laughing uncontrollably at the list.

Is this how all threads are going to be in the future? Just several posts clawing at the walls about how awful all the posts are going to be? I dunno, that sounds just as awful, or perhaps even more awful, than just letting a couple of people chew the fat for an hour or two…

Today, a Nereida was snarky, and a pibbur was wise. :biggrin:

lackblogger - I'm sorry we ruined the only reason for you checked this thread. In future, I'll respect everyone's need to proclaim how their own tastes are the rightful law and list makers are ignorant click baiters.

Nereida - I'm sorry I ruined the only reason for you checked this thread. In future, I'll just respect everyone's need to proclaim how their own posts are the rightful law and list commentors are all ignorant nonsense spewers.

I quite agree with many if not most of the games in that list, the ones I don't agree with are just not my cup of tea so I haven't even tried them.

They even managed to get the right Final Fantasy games on there (X and XII) instead if the (to me) overrated VII. That's not consistent with their "only one per series" policy that pushed DS3 and DOS out though, I don't see why certain series are allowed multiple entries when others are not? (Some exceptions like Fallout and New Vegas are perfectly understandable, perhaps they reason that if the games are dissimilar enough it's fine).

Of all the games I've played on the list (roughly half) only one or two wouldn't make my own top 50.

As far as I'm aware, each time they update the list they write the name of all 50 current games on a piece of paper and put them in a hat.

They then write the names of all the new games they've been playing recently on a piece of paper and put them in a second hat.

Someone then decides how many new games they want to put on the list, a figure arrived at from years of experience about what is the perfect number to generate the exact right amount of controversy.

They then randomly select this exact number of games from the new games hat. The rest are discarded. These selected winners are then put next to the old games hat.

The same select number of games are then picked out randomly from the old games hat and are discarded. The winners from the new games hat are then added to the hat of old games.

This hat of random games is then given to a junior member of staff as a means of initiation as they then have to write words that somehow correlate to the results, to the wonderous amusement of the old-timers at the site.

Always knew divinity original sin 2 was a batter game than pathfinder kingmaker; and this list proves it ;)

Thanks @lackblogger, that makes perfect sense!

For the record: I was commenting on what Nereida said and Sakichop's reply, nothing else, and not on any other existing or future post in the thread. I have no wish to constrain what people write. But I think I'm allowed to for once express my opinion on how we discuss lists like that. I've not done that before, and I'll most likely not do it again (no reason to repeat myself).

So to all of you: write whatever you like, I certainly won't try stop you. I think some types of posts are more useful than others, but I'm not going to keep commenting on it.

a pibbur who thinks he has very little influence on what people do, and is actually grateful for that.

PS. One of my basic principles in life is that several of my opinions are wrong (it's quite obvious, I've changed my views several times and will do so again). Doesn't keep me from saying what I mean, but I does prevent me from putting much prestige into it. DS.

This list is so crap lol.. that is all.

I hope this is the system your're using for RpgWatch game of the decade.;)

I think It's just too hard to do a top 50 list. At least for me it would be. I can think of 5 maybe 10 games that I would put head and shoulders above the rest. After that 11-50 would just be a collection of games I thought were pretty good but probably there wouldn't be much to differentiate them from games 51-90.

As for this list I don't have time to go over the number of games I wouldn't have in my top 100 let alone top 50. I will say as Tomron pointed out they seem to ignore their no duplicate games from the same series rule. Also unless I'm missing it Gothic 2 not being in a top 50 list seems a glaring omission.

8. Disco Elysium [new entry]


*facepalm*

Yakuza 0 (an action adventure game) higher than fallout and Ultima VII. Yeah right! And somehow Final Fantasy 10 and 12 make the list when some of the earlier (and superior) games in the series don't. Anyway, not wasting anymore time on this nonsense list.

Everyone knows these kind of lists always have heavy recency bias, and that spawns a lot of debates. But when Kingmaker, from just over a year ago, doesn't even fit into their top 50, then there's no need to even debate - you know the list is actually just plain old horseshit, objectively.

I'd love to know what game kicked Risen off the list.

no fallout 2? what a nonsense list ! :D

More-like Rock, Paper SHTgun..

Of course! :D

I think you are on to something here. They also must have a hat for old games that made former lists but weren’t drawn for the current list since some of their “new entries” have been out for 5-10 years. Last year the Witcher 2 wasn’t that good, but now it’s #40.

Too old.
 

I guess I am too old if I see top RPGs and don’t see a Wizardry, Bards Tale or Might and Magic game listed in the top 50. Yes, they haven’t aged well with their graphics, but boy did I sink some hours into them. At least one Ultima is there.

I didn't study the list that much. Am I wrong? No Kingmaker, no Underrail, and no Wasteland 2? I can maybe overlook the fact that classics like Might and Magic 6 and Fallout 2 aren't on it. But some of the newer crap they put on the list and leave out the three games I mentioned.

If Darkest Dungeon is a crpg so is Civilization. If Darkest Dungeon made the list then Battle Brothers should be on the list also.

Wow, no Gothic (one of my top RPGs of all time… right now… and still playable).

And it wasn't even on their prior list.

Oh well, I say pushaw to those at rock, paper, scissor . . . oh did I misspell their name?. . . . huhh

My groundbreaking game from 4 decades ago which every game today is a clone of is not on this list. So they are idiots and that makes this list meaningless.

That is all

holy cow

I played Wizardry 8 for the first time just a couple of years ago and certainly think it deserves to be on the list. The earlier ones and MM's I will admit might be hard to stomach by todays standards.

What!? Where's Doom!!? :biggrin:

this.

Agreed, except for Wasteland 2. And if Kenshi is on the list, which I think it deserves to be, then Crusader Kings 2 should be on it, too.