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henriquejr February 23rd, 2020 15:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilm (Post 1061597185)
278 posts in this thread. I'm sure we have also (at least) 278 voters then. Right. right?

Not right. There are members who posted more than once here.

Eye February 23rd, 2020 15:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilm (Post 1061597185)
278 posts in this thread. I'm sure we have also (at least) 278 voters then. Right. right?

Sure. So my voice counts hm… 7 times? ;)
(Haven’t checked the actual amount of posts though, that’s lackblogger’s job I think ;) )

lackblogger February 23rd, 2020 19:44

As stated in the OP and throughout, I shan't be monitoring the thread ;)

Dez February 23rd, 2020 22:15

Voted! I didn't think it too much, but it was pretty easy to pick up those those rpg games I've enjoyed playing most. :)

It will be quite intresting to see the results!

clemford February 24th, 2020 05:00

Hard choice. I loved Drakensang RoT, Skyrim, and Pathfiinder. I had to go with M&M X though. I was obsessed…

Myrthos February 24th, 2020 13:06

The last day of voting is getting nearer, after which a conclusion is made and results become available.

Then the fun part starts and we get to jump (virtually) on lackblogger because whatever algorithm he used didn't result in a list that matches the one we sent him :)

lackblogger February 24th, 2020 21:36

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Andrew23 February 25th, 2020 11:51

My list. PM sent.

Pathfinder: Kingmaker
Pillars of Eternity 2
Xenoblade Chronicles
Dark Souls
Shin Megami Tensei IV

lackblogger February 25th, 2020 17:14

That's a nice interesting vote there Andrew.

You'd be amazed how many people are including some very popular games but also a game or two that has barely any popularity at all in the stakes of a GOTD.

From a psychology PoV I think this explains a lot how so many heated debates can occur even in communities that, in the main, generally tend to agree on most things and have generally a very homogenous taste.

How all of us can have moments where we feel isolated and alone even within our own community because suddenly one day we reveal to the world a great love for something that no-one else gives a shit about, and that naturally makes us feel odd in some way.

How can my taste be so different to yours? I thought I was fairly normal? Wait, it's not me, it's everyone else, they're all bonkers! And the scepticism finds an avenue to creep in, a tear in the fabric of our sense of community that makes us realise that, my God, They're All Assholes!

Even if it's just for those odd threads where Your Game is being ignored/shat on/fake newsed etc etc.

Having said all this, I am very happy to report that some games I wasn't expecting any votes for have indeed… not got any votes…

YET! :D

Andrew23 February 25th, 2020 20:08

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Originally Posted by lackblogger (Post 1061597405)
That's a nice interesting vote there Andrew.

I know! Im also surprised that PoE2 made it to the list. ;)

Unbelievable how TB mode managed to redeem it and how big difference it played at the end - in my eyes.

As for the other choices, Im sure everybody would love them … If they played them :D

No, really, about 5th spot I had to think quite for a while before choosing SMT, but Xenoblade was no-brainer for me. If I had to choose only one game, it would be really hard fight between X and P:K.

sakichop February 26th, 2020 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by lackblogger (Post 1061596801)
Nah, the roll-call at the end of last week's run generated a relatively pitiful response with only 9 of the 60-odd alerted posters sending in a list and a total of 2 unexpected new voters, taking the current vote stack to grand total of 72 ballots.

I'll re-alert all the others again tomorrow as that'll mark one week left.

Then I'll do a final alert run when there's just a day or two left.

Ill be posting and PM-ing my selections tonight or tomorrow.

I definitely don’t want to not be heard in a decade defining decision such as RPGWatch GOTD. :)

redman5427 February 27th, 2020 16:50

Sorry to be so late but I work better under pressure. I have my list but I pretty much picked it based on play time. Despite technology advance, I humbly believe there were better games released the 2 decades before. I lost years of time to Warcraft and Everquest, the Neverwinters, Baldurs Gates, etc. Maybe I just got old and stopped playing as much.

Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Empyrion-Galactic Survival
Conan Exile
Dragon Age:Inquisition
Drakensang: The River of Time
Dead Island
Homefront the Revolution
Lord of the Rings:War in The North
Might and Magic X the Legacy
Tomb Raider

Myrthos February 27th, 2020 17:39

This is about the time that I start wondering when is it midnight in Tonga, so I looked and apparently the voting closes in a bit more than 19 hours from now.
That is at noon CET, 11AM GMT, 6 AM EST and 3 AM PST on February the 28th.

Lucky Day February 27th, 2020 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myrthos (Post 1061597618)
This is about the time that I start wondering when is it midnight in Tonga, so I looked and apparently the voting closes in a bit more than 19 hours from now.
That is at noon CET, 11AM GMT, 6 AM EST and 3 AM PST on February the 28th.

You know its a Leap Year, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by redman5427 (Post 1061597608)
Sorry to be so late but I work better under pressure. I have my list but I pretty much picked it based on play time. Despite technology advance, I humbly believe there were better games released the 2 decades before. I lost years of time to Warcraft and Everquest, the Neverwinters, Baldurs Gates, etc. Maybe I just got old and stopped playing as much.

I've been thinking about the same thing. Should we do something about game of the decade for 1970's-2000's?

Also, for the first three years of this decade we also did an Indie Game of the Year. What's our Indy Game of the Decade?

joxer February 27th, 2020 18:53

Wait… The deadline is 28th not 29th?
Ouch. I might not be able to finish browsing through all 800+ titles… :)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky Day (Post 1061597622)
What's our Indy Game of the Decade?

Grimoire.
Also known as Cleveland Mark Blakemore's Magnum Opus.

Dez February 27th, 2020 23:14

You really don't need to go through all those games. Just think of which games you had most fun playing and vote them. Just think about those fun gaming moments you have had over the years. Go with your gut! :)

Myrthos February 27th, 2020 23:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky Day (Post 1061597622)
You know its a Leap Year, right?

Yes, I do, but not relevant for this voting :)

redman5427 February 28th, 2020 01:48

Quote:

I've been thinking about the same thing. Should we do something about game of the decade for 1970's-2000's?
That's a really good idea. I wonder if they did something like that on the old site? I certainly don't remember if they did.

sakichop February 28th, 2020 05:17

First off, I’m not trying to figure out what game was Objectively the best. Not examining mechanics, story, dialogue, combat, etc. Just looking for the one I enjoyed the most. Only criteria, It has to be a game I completed or played at least 60 hours.

So here’s the list:

Dark souls 1
Dark souls 2
Dark souls 3
Bloodbourne
Sekiro
Lords of the fallen
Nioh
Witcher 2
Witcher 3
Dragon age 2
Blackguards
Skyrim
Pillars of eternity
Dues Ex: HR
Dragons Dogma
LOTR : War in the north
Legend of grimlock
D&D Daggerdale
The first Templar
Mars war logs
Divinity: Original Sin
Middle earth: Shadows of Mordor
Madden- Every year

That’s right in a full decade I only completed or logged 60+ hours in 23 games. I guess that wouldn’t include games released before 2010 though, but still a lot less than I would have guessed.

It come down to 3 games,

Dark souls 1
Dark souls 3
Skyrim

Of those 3 I have to go with Dark Souls 1. Not only did it have great combat, exploration, character building and progression, weapon moves sets, many many secrets to find and atmosphere It was new and fresh when it came out. No one else made a game like it. On top of that it was my introduction to this type of game and I’ve gotten thousands of hours of enjoyment out of sequels and souls like games.

So that’s my list and GOTD, it’s now up to lackblogger to decide how to use my input.
@lackblogger, please let me know you got my PM.

Myrthos February 28th, 2020 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky Day (Post 1061597622)
I've been thinking about the same thing. Should we do something about game of the decade for 1970's-2000's?

That would be a vote for the best CRPG ever?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky Day (Post 1061597622)
Also, for the first three years of this decade we also did an Indie Game of the Year. What's our Indy Game of the Decade?

That is correct, but the lines between being an indie or not were blurring and we did have discussions about when someone or an organization was an indie or not, resulting in the category not existing anymore.

Winterfart February 28th, 2020 13:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakichop (Post 1061597736)
Of those 3 I have to go with Dark Souls 1. Not only did it have great combat, exploration, character building and progression, weapon moves sets (…)

I went completely blind into Dark Souls 1 when it first released (didn't know Demon Souls, just saw a short preview of DS) and the first minutes were just frustrations and disappointement.
I almost ragequit the game forever but then I noticed that every weapons had his own moveset and animations, and that's what sold the game for me.
I was particularly impress by the rapiers moveset, first time in a videogame I saw the correct and realistic fencing moves…
Every RPG (ARPG or not) should be like that. It's a lot of fun.

lackblogger February 28th, 2020 13:57

Polling has now officially closed. Anyone voting from this point onwards will have to be especially nice to me, maybe include lude propositions in their PM etc.

Eye February 28th, 2020 14:24

Let the complaining begin! ;)

Edit
I must say I think it sucks Ghost of Tale is not number one. I suspect fraud.

lackblogger February 28th, 2020 17:11

I am indeed expecting a lot of vehemence from the two people who nominated that game.

lackblogger February 28th, 2020 17:39

The results have been tabulated and sent to Myrthos for officialising.

There is one undisputed outright clear winner by a very large margin.

However, because there was only 88 voters the rest of the top 50 positions are quite the close call with many games sharing their spot with another game! So close you can see the sweat beads on the sweat beads of each successive game!

Dez February 28th, 2020 22:51

No matter the results or how you explain them. People are still going to complain. :D

TomRon February 28th, 2020 23:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dez (Post 1061597870)
No matter the results or how you explain them. People are still going to complain. :D

Well, naturally. He could have just posted my personal list and I still would've complained. Isn't that the point of these lists?

I wonder which the clear winner is though? Going by my gut feeling from this thread I'd guess Skyrim or TW3? None of those actually made my list but I think I'm in a minority there.

lackblogger February 28th, 2020 23:56

Oh indeed, I'm sure I'll be complaining about it at some point :D

Some interesting non-spoiler but sill a bit spoilery facts that might be of interest to some:

45 of the top 50 games were indeed present on the previous regular Game of the Year results:

The top 2 and no's 4, 5, 10 from 2010
The top 3 and no.5 from 2011
The top 4 from 2012
No.1 from 2013
The top 6 and no.9 from 2014
The top 7 from 2015
The top 3 and no's 5, 8 from 2016
The top 4 from 2017
The top 5 from 2018
The top 3 from 2019

So we could have just pitted all the previous No.1s against each other, but then four of these previous number ones all tied at 29th, meaning that there were about 30 games that the watch liked more, so that wouldn't have been very accurate.

We could have just pooled all the top 3 games, and this would have been a lot more accurate as only three top 3 games failed to make the list: Divinity 2 DKS/FOV , Expeditions Conquistador, Baldur's Gate 2 EE, however, again, for several of the years the second or third spot only garnered a bottom of the list place, with none of the 2016 or 2019 games placing higher than 24th.

We could have just pooled the top 5 games from each year and this would have just about done it… well… if you consider 80% to be just about. 11 games that made the top 50 did not rank higher than 6th in previous Game of the Year polls while nine previous top 5s have been thoroughly forgotten about. The highest placed non-top 5'er made a respectable 18th place, so it would have been very harsh on some games to exclude them by using this method.

And then there's the five games that were never placed on any previous GOTY polls which, admittedly, do not place very highly here, the highest placed one being 24th, but no doubt will make a large number of people very happy by their cumulative inclusions.

Myrthos February 29th, 2020 13:01

It must have been a lot of work and I appreciate it a lot that you have done this.


The list will be published on Monday.

forgottenlor February 29th, 2020 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomRon (Post 1061597874)
Well, naturally. He could have just posted my personal lousy and I still would've complained. Isn't that the point of these lists?

I wonder which the clear winner is though? Going by my gut feeling from this thread I'd guess Skyrim or TW3? None of those actually made my list but I think I'm in a minority there.

It is without doubt TW3 as a number of people only voted for that game. I'll wait to rant about that until @lackblogger confirms the result in the official thread.

GothicGothicness February 29th, 2020 23:44

2013 ? :thinking::thinking::thinking::thinking::thinking: o_Oo_Oo_O

I hope I misunderstood your post? otherwise a console game will win ? @lackblogger

Ahh, now I got it :D nevermind. I read too fast :D

I thought number one was from 2013, for short scary moment.

joxer February 29th, 2020 23:54

Avadon 2: The Corruption wasn't a console game. :p

Lucky Day March 1st, 2020 18:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myrthos (Post 1061597760)
That would be a vote for the best CRPG ever?

No, it would be a view of games from those decades from this much hindsight. Those decades only.

Best game ever was something you brought up a few times as a top 100 list but you've never implemented on The Watch, only the Dot.

Wisdom March 1st, 2020 20:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eye (Post 1061597779)
Let the complaining begin! ;)

Never forget MaylanderGate!!!


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