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Old Grognard

August 16th, 2020 15:46

4X Crusader Kings 2 Inspired Games In Space

Since I played a mod called Crisis of the Confederation for Cruasder Kings 2 I was hooked on that style of gmae. Then Paradox released Stellaris but removed the character focus.

In the end it just wasn't the same and now seems two developers have taken the best aspects of Crusader Kings II and crossed it with my beloved 4X genre. Here are the details.

First up we have Star Dynasties by developer Pawley Games. It's currently on Steam with a planned 2021 release, and the developer got his game published by Iceberg Interactive.

Link - https://store.steampowered.com/app/1…tar_Dynasties/

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Star Dynasties is a sci-fi strategy game set in a divided galaxy following the destruction of Earth. The game mixes a light empire management strategy layer with a unique procedurally generated narrative of human drama and feudal politics, where your choices will define your story.

Up next is Alliance of the Sacred Suns by a developer called KatHawk Studios. Sadly he has no publisher, or a release date planned for his ambitious game yet. Hopefully soon.

Link - https://store.steampowered.com/app/1…e_Sacred_Suns/

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A millennia in the future, humanity is scattered and broken, forced to flee from a diabolical alien species that obliterated Earth and hunts humanity to this day. In this revolutionary 4X/Grand Strategy game, you are the last Emperor of the Celestial Empire.

Old Grognard

August 16th, 2020 21:35

Star Dynasties Developer Diaries Episode I - Introduction

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Star Dynasties Developer Diaries | Episode II - Relationships

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Star Dynasties - What is the Game Like?

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mprod

August 17th, 2020 00:42

This looks interesting thanks for showing it

Old Grognard

August 17th, 2020 13:53

I have to give a shout to that CK2 mod as well.

Link - https://www.moddb.com/mods/crisis-of-the-confederation

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It is the Year 3008 The Ships fly from Terra once more as the crisis has ended with The Confederations defeat and disgrace With Tao Luo And The Imperialists Seizing Earth After a coup that imprisoned President Morgan and declared Tao Luo the New Emperor of Terra The Confederation now lies Fractured and Broken With Democracies torch growing Dim Will you Fight to restore democracy ,Destroy the Confederation and the Mistakes of the Past or Will you unite the Terran Empire Under Tao Luo The Golden Age of Terra Has ended its fire put out by the Flood we Can only hope Someone Rekindles The Flame..

Play it you wont be disappointed it reminds me of fading Suns.

henriquejr

August 17th, 2020 15:13

Couch (I'll refrain from calling you "Old Grognard", you oldl grognard :) ), what are you looking for exactly? More 4X games? Have you tried GalCiv III, Endless Space 2 ?

Old Grognard

August 17th, 2020 15:51

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Originally Posted by henriquejr (Post 1061612513)

Couch (I'll refrain from calling you "Old Grognard", you oldl grognard :) ), what are you looking for exactly? More 4X games? Have you tried GalCiv III, Endless Space 2 ?

Tried them all already. These games and mods make it your story and character in the setting. If you played Crusader Kings 2 you would know what I'm talking about.

Crusader Kings 3 releasing in September takes it a step further but it's not in space.:(

Old Grognard

August 17th, 2020 16:15

Another game that comes close but doesn't fit the criteria is Stellar Monarch.

Link - https://store.steampowered.com/app/4…ellar_Monarch/

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Asymmetric space empire builder where you feel like the Emperor, not a logistics officer. No micromanagement, grand scale, fast paced, audiences, assassins, imperial court, disloyal admirals.

henriquejr

August 17th, 2020 17:49

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Originally Posted by Old Grognard (Post 1061612517)

Well, I actually have to thank you for sharing those games that I wasn't tracking: Star Dynasties, Alliance of Sacred Suns, and Stellar Monarch.

I believe you're wanting a game like "Crusader Kings 2 in Space". If so, then I can't help you, sorry :(

Old Grognard

August 17th, 2020 17:54

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Originally Posted by henriquejr (Post 1061612521)

Well, I actually have to thank you for sharing those games that I wasn't tracking: Star Dynasties, Allice of Sacred Suns, ad Stellar Monarch.

I believe you're wanting a game like "Crusader Kings 2 in Space". If so, then I can't help you, sorry :(

Well Star Dynasties & Alliance of Sacred Suns are inspired by CK 2 and in space.:biggrin:

So I'm all set for when they finally release.:(

Star Dynasties CK2 In Space - A Developer Interview | Schematics Interview

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Old Grognard

August 17th, 2020 18:01

As for Stellar Monarch you play as the Emperor you don't micro- manage every little detail as other 4X games. You issue decrees and the subjects fulfill your orders.

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Watch out for disloyal admirals/governors.:cool:

There is a scenario you can pick to play where a civil war is happening already.

Kos	August 17th, 2020 21:23

Thanks! I did not know about those games apart for Stella Monarch.

Couchpotato

September 22nd, 2020 18:47

Star Dynasties - Developer Diaries Episode III - Households and Secrets

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henriquejr

November 7th, 2020 00:33

Hey CouchPotato,

I'm just revisting this thread you started. Any news on the Star Dynasties and/or Alliance of the Sacred Suns? Even if don't have any news now, when you do please post them :)

Couchpotato

November 7th, 2020 02:37

There have been two updates since I posted this thread.:)

Star Dynasties - IndieCade 2020 -- A playable demo has arrived!

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As some of you may know, we're participating in the IndieCade festival among many other amazing studios and games. And in honor of IndieCade, we're making a demo of the game available for the duration of the event (October 16-24).

The demo is turn-limited, allowing you to play the first 20 turns of a game. Of course, being a demo, it's not in a finished state, so all standard disclaimers apply.

Demo probably still available for download.

Alliance of the Sacred Suns - What Did Our First Alpha Test Teach Us?

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Well, it's been a while since I've written a blog, and that's because we've been very busy with our first alpha test. Overall, we got a ton of information that I believe will really help AotSS become the game it was designed to be. So, getting straight to the point, there are 4 things that we really took away from players, of which we'll dive into the first 2 points in more detail today.

1) The game needs to give more information to the player. Again and again, players wished that there were more tooltips, more popups, more everything to explain things.

2) The game systems need to be explained better. Similar to the above point, players had difficulty understanding some of the more esoteric systems like the claim system and trade.

3) The game needs to be more stable. As an evolving professional game developer, I fell into the trap of adding new features and hoping I would have time to fix any issues later. The good news is that I was able to fix over 120 bugs during the alpha. The bad news, of course, is that there were 120 bugs to find.

4) The Houses and Characters are important, but the game is about you. The primary conceit of AotSS is that it tells the story of you, a new Emperor, far from home, trying to rally your fading Empire against an existential threat. Players told us that they wanted more of that feeling in the game.

henriquejr

November 7th, 2020 02:48

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Originally Posted by Couchpotato (Post 1061620277)

There have been two updates since I posted this thread.:)

Star Dynasties - IndieCade 2020 -- A playable demo has arrived!Demo probably still available for download.

Alliance of the Sacred Suns - What Did Our First Alpha Test Teach Us?

Thanks for the updates!!

Couchpotato

December 9th, 2020 02:36

Update time Alliance of the Sacred Suns has launched on kickstarter.

Link : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/aotss/alliance-of-the-sacred-suns

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We are on the final stretch of development, and we just need to get across the finish line. To do that, we need your help! Steve Hawkins, lead developer of AotSS, explains the situation and how you can help Alliance!

Couchpotato

December 9th, 2020 02:38

Also Star Dynasties is open for Closed Beta Sign-ups.

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The closed beta starts on Thursday December 10th -- exactly one week from now. As for an exact time, we're aiming for 16:00 CET. The closed beta will run until Monday December 21st at 10:00 AM CET.

henriquejr

December 9th, 2020 05:07

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Originally Posted by Couchpotato (Post 1061623954)

Update time Alliance of the Sacred Suns has launched on kickstarter.

Link : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/aotss/alliance-of-the-sacred-suns

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Thanks for sharing the KS Announcement but I'll let it pass. I've already had my fair share of KS projects.

Couchpotato

January 2nd, 2021 02:12

Well the kickstarter for Alliance of the Sacred Suns failed but it's not all bad news.

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Alliance of the Sacred Suns can be wishlisted on Steam and will release in 2021.

I am excited to announce that Alliance of the Sacred Suns will be published by Hooded Horse Inc. with guaranteed funding of $300,000, 10x our Kickstarter goal.

Hooded Horse is also the publisher of Terra Invicta, another upcoming space strategy game, and we are over the moon about having the funding and resources to make Alliance reflect the vision we had for the project so long ago.

As we will need additional time to develop the project at our new expanded scale, we have made the difficult decision to cancel the Kickstarter campaign. With over 350 backers, many of you wanted to see Alliance succeed, and we don't want to forget about those who were willing to help in our time of need.

So all of our backers, regardless of pledge amount, will receive free access to the

Beta when it launches towards the end of 2021 as a thank you for your pledge and your support!

We are very excited and grateful for this opportunity to bring the full vision of Alliance to the gaming community. We will make you proud of your support, and you will be pleased with the world we can bring to you.

Alliance of the Sacred Suns - Dune and Foundation's series lovechild?

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Interview with Steve Hawkins on Alliance of the Sacred Suns

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Couchpotato

January 2nd, 2021 02:18

Star Dynasties Developer Diaries Episode IV - Morality and Justice

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henriquejr

March 16th, 2021 17:52

Hey CouchPotato,

If you allow me to necro your thread, and also since it's not an RPG, I'll post the news here:

Star Dynasties is already available in Early Access

Couchpotato

March 16th, 2021 18:19

Sigh..Early Access now the wait continues to it's full releases.:(

Star Dynasties - Early Access Release Trailer

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henriquejr

March 19th, 2021 22:50

Star Dynasties update: less raid-ey barons, quickbar saving/loading, and more!

Couchpotato

April 14th, 2021 02:51

Star Dynasties - Roadmap REVEALED!

https://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/s…4c4d34014c.jpg

henriquejr

April 14th, 2021 04:16

Q3 2021? Good, I can't wait for the full release!! :)

wiretripped

April 15th, 2021 11:09

Anyone try the EA yet?

henriquejr

June 6th, 2021 19:52

Hey Couch,

I think you missed these:

Star Dynasties Major Update: Mods, Notification Improvements, and more!

Alliance of the Sacred Suns: The Military System 2.0: A Graphical Walk-Through

henriquejr

August 3rd, 2021 22:05

Hey, Mr Old Grognard (4.0 now):

Dune meets Crusader Kings in ambitious space strategy Alliance of the Sacred Suns

henriquejr

September 1st, 2021 03:11

Couch,

I'm still bringing this thread back. May I?

Star Dynasties RELEASING September 1st!

Couchpotato

September 1st, 2021 03:15

Be my guess I'm not in the posting mood right now anyway.:)

Anyway day one purchase and play for me so thanks for the reminder..

henriquejr

September 5th, 2021 15:20

Star Dynasties - Balance Patch (v1.0.0.4)

Couchpotato

December 9th, 2021 00:57

Alliance of the Sacred Suns Delayed

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Hey, everyone! Steve here, and it’s December. Here in Texas, it’s not really cold yet, but we’re still busy with moving full speed ahead in getting Alliance ready for release! Since it’s been a little while since I posted an update, I wanted to tell you in our own words what we’re working on, the state of the team, and some of the new game systems to look forward to upon release!

First of all, we are delaying the game until Q1 2022. I know that seems to be a common thing nowadays, but I can assure you that we’re doing it for the right reasons. Now that we have a complete team of seven working on the game essentially full-time, we’ve made more progress in the last 3 or 4 months than we have since the end of 2020, and we’re moving faster every week! The game is fully playable and at this point quite stable (I routinely play 40-50 turn games every evening now as a quality check to check longer-term trends and systems) and much of what we’re doing involves things like optimizing the graphics and the UI (a major area where Unity has really helped us), adding some amazing universe art, balancing out the economy and costs of things, and especially the tooltips/help system, and we are completely rewriting the tutorial to just have a tutorial campaign that utilizes very little ‘hand hold’ as our previous version, and uses a guided campaign with goals, subgoals, and an overarching plot to keep players interested while they learn by doing- rather than by watching! Basically – we want to get the game right on release, and it is our full intention to do so!

Axioms Of Dominion

January 1st, 2022 18:49

As a Star Dynasties Veteran I think it is a solid 6.8 once you allow that some things I really don't like were intentional design choices by Glen. Of course you can still win the game in 3 turns but only on easy or custom.

They need to add more diplomatic and espionage interaction in my opinion and perhaps some more administration stuff to the game. It needs at least 4x as much character depth to really compare to CK2.

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