Cyberpunk 2077 - Devs didn't know about the Delay
 

Gameinformer reports that the Cyberpunk 2077 devs didn't know about the delay:

Thanks Largh!

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I already have insider info about the NEXT news item:
Devs Didn't Know About The Directors Board Decision that the game is going to be fully converted into Cyberhump My Pony 2077.

I guess it doesn't matter if you release a broken game or delay to get problems fixed you are going to get crapped on, but in the long term I suspect the delay will be forgotten but broken on release will not so quickly be forgiven.
As for who knew what when it's nuts that people are freaking about this, WTF is everyone at CD Project Red supposed to be at the executive meeting that made this decision. Internet mob mentality makes me shake my head some days.

The game wasn't delayed for bugs. It was delayed because current consoles had trouble running the game. I shared the business call transcript from yesterday already.
See it's not due to bugs but performance & management problems.

It's possible to understand the reasons for the decision, to even on some level prefer that they make that decision rather than release an unoptimized game, and still be disappointed, frustrated and even angry about it. I don't like being yanked around. I was literally counting down the days, and with everything that had been going on…. the ad campaign, the proximity, the repeated assurances… in my mind Nov 19 was a done deal. People took time off that they can't get back. It's not okay to make death threats to the devs or whatever, but it IS okay to feel bad about it and express those feelings.

[If it isn't clear, I'm responding to Terry's post. Couch jumped in the middle]

Not a big deal imo. I'm surprised so much is being made about another 3 weeks. Considering how crazy this year has been, I'm surprised it wasn't longer.

Don't feel bad I'm sure a million other gamers felt the same way. :biggrin:

My first reaction was yelling at my monitor in rage. Just because this was the fourth delay, but after reading the transcript I understood why. It was therapeutic at least.

Still yeah death threats is a little to far and crazy even for me. Not cool at all.

It is entirely possible but unconfirmed that I yelled "You have got to be fucking kidding me!" when I read the tweet.

I am actually kind of happy about the delay because maybe I'll manage to have a new rig by then.

But I can understand the disappointment.

I must be getting old and jaded as I just can't get excited about game releases anymore, too many disappointments over the years I guess.

Seriously, people? Adults getting all torqued because they don't get their new toy when they want it? Some are behaving as if their '63 Corvette was stolen and wrecked. Shall I call the Whaaambulance?

All these first world problems…

When a developer tells you they 100% agree it wont be delayed yet again, but two weeks before that promised release date do so by posting a simple Twitter message saying "sorry we did it again." Cue the Benny Hill music as it fits the scenario…

It has nothing to do with getting a new toy but poor management on CDPR's side. So I 100% understand the outrage just don't support the few nuts giving death threats.
Yep sure glad I don't live in a third world A.K.A "developing world".:P

No, but you can shut up, you judgemental ass.

Interesting that you should say that, because come to think of it, you know what this largely is about for me? A much needed brain break from the actual serious problems I and many others are dealing with in 2020. A pandemic with no end in sight. An imminent election that could either be a blessed relief or a turning point for this country that we may never come back from. Not to mention whatever personal individuals may be going through with finances and health and family issues.

If you don't care about Cyberpunk 2077, bully for you. If you don't care about the delays, that's great too. I guarantee you that you DO care about things that other people don't. So how about you all keep the snark?

Isn't that a largely unrealistic amount of pressure to place on a video game release date that you have less control over than any of the things you mentioned earlier?

No more so than anything you do to de-stress or take your mind off things.

I stopped getting upset over game delays a long time ago. It sucks when a game you're really looking forward to gets delayed, but it happens to nearly every big release nowadays.

I'm actually more annoyed by how long ELEX 2 is taking. At least we get constant updates about Cyberpunk.

According to a video status update this month by PB it seems development has stalled on ELEX 2 because of the pandemic. It was supposed to be revealed at Gamescom.

The video is in my news-thread but it's in German.

Edit: Screw it here you go. Yeah it's another double post.:biggrin:

Link - https://www.reddit.com/r/elex/commen…s_year_due_to/

I already watch PB's monthly videos on YouTube. They're usually so vague, I wouldn't consider them "updates".

I agree but that's the only news on the game. Been quiet for a year otherwise.

Actually, there hasn't been any official news. They only refer to their "project" which we all know is ELEX 2.

I agree.
People really getting angry about game delays, imho are way too much emotionally attached to the game (or what they think the game will be).

So it's more like Keeping Up with the Pankratz? :)

Better then being an apathetic joking I don't care gamer.:biggrin:

Fact is Cyberpunk 2077 is the most over-hyped video game of the decade. So all that emotionally attachment comes with the trappings. Nothing new really either.

They better deliver but that conference call shed some negative light on the developer.

I don't see anything that makes the devs looks bad here. I'm not sure if people are actually reading the newsbit.

The CEO admitted changes are coming and needed due to organizational problems. I agree they took to long and finished some the work to late in development.

Game started out as a current gen title then became new gen futher along.

Aren't "organizational changes" (i.e. firing people) an integral part of the capitalistic business? If a certain part of your company does not provide for the foreseeable future, you'll get rid of it.

Anyway, that article you linked is far too vague to make any opinion out of it. Call it "fake news" as your president would do ;)

They could also talk about the changes they need to do to make the Cypepunk MMO (and hopefully develop a single-player game aside).

I wouldn't be so sure. There have been games that had been hyped similarly. And how much overhyped it is, we'll only know after release. Perhaps the game is so good it justifies the hype? (I don't think it is.)

What I don't like about their decision is the mantra that the game has to be released simultaneously on all plarforms. I don't care for that. Yeah, I guess that's fixed in contracts with Microsoft, Valve, Sony or whatever. But I don't think it's a good trend that a studoi like CDPR agrees to such deals.

I didn't link anything in this article. The transcript was taken from a polish business news site yesterday from another link. Also yeah I agree and foresee mass firings as well.

That MMO is a waste of resources as well but PnP players will love it. I'm more interested in the DLC roadmap they haven't released yet. Supposed to bigger then Witcher III.

Definitely agree the porting to nine different systems/platforms is a technical mess in the making. That's probably part of the "organizational changes" in technical departments.

Exactly. I think some people are just looking for something to complain about. :)

I don't understand what the big fuss about the delay is. People are behaving like the coivd vaccine has been delayed or something….

There are so many good games coming out and most people have huge backlogs…

Nope don't see the problem…wait a minute it's been in development for over 7+ now, and been delayed fout times in one year. Yeah that's nothing to worry about.
Really because I don't have a huge backlog anymore. I played most of my games this year, and my tastes are very strict when it comes to games I enjoy nowadays.

So lets see probably Assassin's Creed Valhalla & maybe Yakuza: Like a Dragon.

Edit: I forgot that new Spellforce III expansion next month as well.

I mean, you *can* have an aneurysm every time a game disappoints you. That's your prerogative. But I fall on the "chill out" side of this debate, just because it's so effing predictable that you'll be disappointed.
On these AAA, 5-years-in-development games, it's practically GUARANTEED you'll be shouting at your monitor and throwing things. The question is, when are you going to stop being so optimistic?

Games don't disappoint me bro just this game. I've already said why. This was provably the only game I was looking forward to playing this year compared to other games.

Not even the EA version of BG III has me so excited.:excited:

You could think of it this way… now you have a whole new date to look forward to! De-stress about new date.

As always, I'm baffled by how anyone can really upset about games, but I do understand people being bummed out about the delay. Cold autumn nights are prime gaming season for me. Sometimes there's a game I'm really looking forward to, so I'll get the good snacks in, and prepare to settle down. It's a drag to have your weekend plan pulled at the last minute.

I still remember the days when you could take vacation from work, planned months in advance, to play games on release-- and they were actually finished on release…

Now there's at least 3 delays to release beta.

I can't relate to planning vacations around game releases. I thought I was a hardcore gamer, but that is on another level.

If you are so hyped and want to play a new game on your vacation, at least wait until the game is friggin' released, and then take your vacation! No way to be let down by game delays that way.

As I wrote in another thread, the reason some people are disappointed by the delay isn't even that difficult to understand: people are fighting against the daily grind, depression, negativity, and such by looking forward to something. Some do this consciously, others not. When the thing you have been looking forward to disappears or gets delayed, disappointment is a natural reaction. How people express this disappointment varies and sure there have been some over-reactions out there (less on this forum, though).

First world problems yes, but people experience similar feelings in the developing countries - only the context is different.

I had taken a week off from work to play the game. I had been looking forward to that week since the summer - I could finally sit down by myself and enjoy a game without any other distractions or commitments. Commitment-free weeks are a rarity these days… The next "release date" collides with other stuff and I'll have to move my week alone with CP2077 to January. Not a big deal really since now I am looking forward to that week. The only issue is that it will be very difficult to avoid spoilers since I'll be able to play the game a month after the possible release.