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Silver November 23rd, 2020 05:51

Dishonored - The Rise of Dishonored Documentary
 
Big Will takes a closer look at what led to the development of Dishonored and breaks down what makes it unique with Raphael Colantonio.

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Redglyph November 23rd, 2020 14:42

A nice complement to NoClip's recent documentary - I think it didn't make the news here, back in May. They also did shorter documentaries on Prey.

Really loved Dishonored, one of the very few games for which I bought several DLC. The combination of stealth, freedom, play style and Viktor Antonov's design was exceptional.

Couchpotato November 23rd, 2020 18:49

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Originally Posted by Redglyph (Post 1061621974)
A nice complement to NoClip's recent documentary - I think it didn't make the news here, back in May. They also did shorter documentaries on Prey.

Really loved Dishonored, one of the very few games for which I bought several DLC. The combination of stealth, freedom, play style and Viktor Antonov's design was exceptional.

It was posted on my news thread. As I love their documentary's. :p

As for Dishonored yeah it was a unique game that combined many genres into one fun-park experience. To bad the sequels sold worse and put the series on ice.

Their latest game Deathloop has some Dishonored vibes but it's not the same.

Pineapple Ferguson November 23rd, 2020 19:37

Loved the Dishonored games.

Redglyph November 23rd, 2020 20:14

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Originally Posted by Couchpotato (Post 1061621984)
It was posted on my news thread. As I love their documentary's. :p

Ouch, my bad, I've been lazy and just followed the handy game tags. Yeah, I've seen you were quite busy there! :)

They've got awesome documentaries. I hope they survive, it's been ups and downs but somehow NoClip seems to manage.

Bill Will seems to have interesting videos too, I just didn't know them.
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As for Dishonored yeah it was a unique game that combined many genres into one fun-park expedience. To bad the sequels sold worse and put the series on ice.

Their latest game Deathloop has some Dishonored vibes but it's not the same.

Ah, I don't know that one, will check it out. I'm really curious about Weird West, see what Raphael will come up with in his new adventure. It must have been the hardest decision.

Shagnak November 23rd, 2020 20:54

Dishonored was a fantastic series. Played all of it, inc. the DLCs, and I'm pretty bummed that it stalled.
I have little interest in Deathloop. I want more in that crazy steampunk Dunwall dammit.

JDR13 November 23rd, 2020 20:55

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Originally Posted by Redglyph (Post 1061621974)
Really loved Dishonored, one of the very few games for which I bought several DLC. The combination of stealth, freedom, play style and Viktor Antonov's design was exceptional.

I've yet to play a game from Arkane that I didn't enjoy, and I've played them all except for Dishonored 2.

I've seen people complain that Dishonored isn't Thief, but I think they missed the point.

Couchpotato November 23rd, 2020 21:23

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Originally Posted by Redglyph (Post 1061621997)
Ah, I don't know that one, will check it out. I'm really curious about Weird West, see what Raphael will come up with in his new adventure. It must have been the hardest decision.

Yeah weird west sounds like a good game, but it uses the over the top camera/slanted isometric view, I personally hate, but who knows I might end up enjoying it.

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Redglyph November 23rd, 2020 22:10

It's wild! No reload heh?

Little complement, here Raphael elaborates the transition to WolfEye a little, and the choices and motivations behind Weird West.

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Re: Deathloop, I'm not convinced by the idea of being limited in time. That's another type of progression, a little bit like the trial and error exploration in a Hitman mission. If done right, it could be interesting though, wait and see.

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Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061622003)
I've seen people complain that Dishonored isn't Thief, but I think they missed the point.

I have a lot of respect for both series, and it's an interesting comparison, but indeed, they must be misguided.

JDR13 November 23rd, 2020 22:18

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I have a lot of respect for both series, and it's an interesting comparison, but indeed, they must be misguided.

I also enjoyed both, but some people seem to be hung up on the fact that the stealth isn't as good in Dishonored. An odd view imo since stealth was really your only option in Thief.

joxer November 23rd, 2020 23:24

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I've yet to play a game from Arkane that I didn't enjoy,

I did. Not enjoy.
Prey.
Yuck.

Couchpotato November 23rd, 2020 23:56

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I did. Not enjoy.
Prey.
Yuck.

I didn't either only because it never interested me enough to play. I did play the original back in the day, but that was a different kind of game. Mostly a shooter game.

Pineapple Ferguson November 23rd, 2020 23:56

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I did. Not enjoy.
Prey.
Yuck.

I thought Prey was great. What didn't you like about it?

JDR13 November 23rd, 2020 23:58

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I thought Prey was great. What didn't you like about it?

Prey is great, but joxer has interesting tastes to say the least. :)

Redglyph November 24th, 2020 10:40

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Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061622034)
I also enjoyed both, but some people seem to be hung up on the fact that the stealth isn't as good in Dishonored. An odd view imo since stealth was really your only option in Thief.

Hm, by reading my comment again, it may have come as sarcastic, it wasn't - just to avoid misinterpretation.

The two series may have features in common, perhaps not in the story, but stealth obviously, the choice of killing or not, the mix of odd technology and early-industrial world, … But as you said, Thief only had stealth and tried to restrain the player to realistic options, if a bit exaggerated sometimes, where Dishonored didn't hesitate to push it way further and to open the possibilities to the player. It really has evolved into a new coherent style of its own.

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I thought Prey was great. What didn't you like about it?

I was curious about that too (I haven't played it yet).

Couchpotato November 24th, 2020 18:01

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I was curious about that too (I haven't played it yet).

Well I can't speak for Joxer but for me personally it was the setting and story. Both never caught my interest and by the time I got around to playing I read to many spoilers.

Redglyph November 24th, 2020 23:30

I see. I was rather skeptical with the "possess" feature thing, but otherwise it seemed decent, but nothing really attracts me either.
Ah well, maybe in another life, when there's more time to play all those games :)

JDR13 November 24th, 2020 23:47

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I see. I was rather skeptical with the "possess" feature thing, but otherwise it seemed decent, but nothing really attracts me either.
Ah well, maybe in another life, when there's more time to play all those games :)

If you like immersive sims, Prey is a must-play imo. Not sure what you're referring to when you say possess feature though.

Redglyph November 25th, 2020 10:22

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If you like immersive sims, Prey is a must-play imo. Not sure what you're referring to when you say possess feature though.

Perhaps it's not possess, but transform into any object? I saw a gameplay in which things were going a bit crazy with the player controlling a can, a box, … They already had something similar in Dishonored, but limited to animals.

JDR13 November 25th, 2020 11:01

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Originally Posted by Redglyph (Post 1061622153)
Perhaps it's not possess, but transform into any object? I saw a gameplay in which things were going a bit crazy with the player controlling a can, a box, … They already had something similar in Dishonored, but limited to animals.

Ah yes, the mimic ability. It doesn't allow you to transform into any object. There are specific things you can mimic depending on what level the ability is.

If you ever end up playing the game, I recommend getting at least the first tier of that ability because it allows you to access some areas that you otherwise wouldn't be able to reach.

Wisdom November 25th, 2020 15:30

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Originally Posted by Shagnak (Post 1061622002)
Dishonored was a fantastic series. Played all of it, inc. the DLCs, and I'm pretty bummed that it stalled.
I have little interest in Deathloop. I want more in that crazy steampunk Dunwall dammit.

Congrats on your 1000th post!

Shagnak November 27th, 2020 22:39

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Congrats on your 1000th post!

Thanks! I'll never post again, just so I can keep that number.

Oops.

boobaloo November 28th, 2020 13:49

One of my fav games of all time is Arx Fatalis (oh why not an Arx Fatalis 2), brilliant setting, astounding exploration and Pace, should have a easier casting mechanic (how awsome would it be to cast magic with VR controlers), and should have a key to open that damned door :P.
Loved Dishonored 1 and liked a lot Prey, might n Magick and Dishonored 2 (my least favorite of the bunch).
Arkane should be picked to make the remakes or new games on the System Shock and Deus ex Universes. My fav developer by far

JDR13 November 28th, 2020 14:09

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Originally Posted by boobaloo (Post 1061622507)
One of my fav games of all time is Arx Fatalis (oh why not an Arx Fatalis 2), brilliant setting, astounding exploration and Pace, should have a easier casting mechanic (how awsome would it be to cast magic with VR controlers), and should have a key to open that damned door :P.

I just played Arx recently for the first time in about a decade, and it's still great. I was trying out the demo for the Insanity mod that remasters it and adds a few things. Check it out if you haven't already. https://arxinsanity.weebly.com/

boobaloo November 29th, 2020 17:31

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Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061622512)
I just played Arx recently for the first time in about a decade, and it's still great. I was trying out the demo for the Insanity mod that remasters it and adds a few things. Check it out if you haven't already. https://arxinsanity.weebly.com/


Thankx, I will try it.

Ripper November 29th, 2020 17:48

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Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061622512)
I just played Arx recently for the first time in about a decade, and it's still great. I was trying out the demo for the Insanity mod that remasters it and adds a few things. Check it out if you haven't already. https://arxinsanity.weebly.com/

What did you think of the Insanity mod? Graphically it looks good, but I sometimes find these large mods add things I wish they hadn't (particularly if they start writing new material.)

JDR13 November 29th, 2020 22:30

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What did you think of the Insanity mod? Graphically it looks good, but I sometimes find these large mods add things I wish they hadn't (particularly if they start writing new material.)

I don't think he's adding any new quests or characters. There are some new items and small changes to some of the rooms, but they're pretty subtle.

In fact, it wasn't until after I finished the demo and rolled back to the vanilla game + Arx Libertatis that I realized the changes to the levels.

Ripper November 29th, 2020 22:37

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I don't think he's adding any new quests or characters. There are some new items and small changes to some of the rooms, but they're pretty subtle.

In fact, it wasn't until after I finished the demo and rolled back to the vanilla game + Arx Libertatis that I realized the changes to the levels.

Cheers. I just wondered because I had a quick look at the youtube trailer for the mod, and it mentioned new lore, new level design and gameplay, and restored content of some kind. It looked like quite major additions the way they presented it, but it sounds like it's nothing too disruptive.

JDR13 November 29th, 2020 22:58

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Cheers. I just wondered because I had a quick look at the youtube trailer for the mod, and it mentioned new lore, new level design and gameplay, and restored content of some kind. It looked like quite major additions the way they presented it, but it sounds like it's nothing too disruptive.

I hope "lore" is just a reference to the new items and alchemy he's adding. Like you, I'm not a fan of mods that add fan-made writing or characters. The demo only covers a small portion of the game so it's possible the finished mod could contain more significant changes.


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