Cyberpunk 2077 - Review @ COG
 

COG reviewed Cyberpunk 2077:

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What happened is noise created by people and reviewers who feel entitled and with level of shallowness that is equal to the glitches and bugs in very single open world game made to date.

Selective memory as it's easier to join the hate bandwagon on YouTube, Also they need the clicks and subscriptions to make those Eddies. No better then Corpo's. :biggrin:

Flawed, yes it is.
Noone is blind, the game has bugs.

But fatally? Sorry but… A game with more than 100 hours of conent… DIFFERENT content, not grinding some same idiocy…
1. No crashes to desktop (on my side)
2. No gamestopper that would permanently lock the game progress
3. No impossible to solve sidequest (TBH 3-4 needed a sort of a workaround)

Yes there are immersion breakers, mismanaged audio parts, unlootable garbage, (now fixed) mirror baldness, slippery roads, etc. Petty glitches hardly any openworld doesn't have on release.
None of that is fatal.
So what's exactly new?

I'll tell you what's new.
The new is that reviewers, as usual, fastran the main story and are now giving rocket science lectures after barely passing a basic math course. I mean, seriously?

Note that I'm speaking from PC perspective.
By no means I will join lynchmob by PS4/Xbox players. I can understand them, but this is the opposite case of Arkham Knight when they shown me no mercy so sorry, I'm just returning the favor.

I have 40 h of side quests and just roaming around under my belt now and haven't even really started the main quest yet. I'd say I have fun.

I wanted to buy a new PC for this game - now I wait a few month more.

The subreddit has finally, slowly, started to have the sorts of threads I envisioned before the game came out: sharing snippets of all the many things one can do, see, wear, etc. in the game. There are still complaints, but instead of 99.9% of the threads, it's like 5-10% now.

Youtubers are still stuck though, apparently. Super useful opinion you've got there, guy who 2 weeks later is saying the same shit we've heard ad naseum.

No need to wait.
Besides, you should have bought the new PC (IIRC your CPU is some ancient) for Death Stranding.

It's definitely not worth buying a new PC for, but then I'm not sure any single game is.

Man, his CPU lacks of today's standard instructions.
It's not about one game.

Well, according to him, it was. :)

I can play most games with my old quad-core Xenon and GTX 970 pretty well.
Genshin Impact, Wasteland 3, Troubleshooter, Trails of Cold Steel III, ELEX are looking good on 1080p for example.
Games that don't work are AVX games like Horizon Zero Dawn, Asssassin's Creed, Death Stranding and Cyberpunk 2077.
I never used a PC for such a long time (2007-2020) in my life (exchanging only the gfx-card every couple of years), but next year I will get a new one.

Just don't buy Threadripper.
Remember, Elex initially refused to run on it. ;)
Imagine a game refuses to run on the fastest CPU out there, but loves anything below it. Then again, Threadripper, just like i9, is not a gaming CPU. Except inside PC Gamer offices.

I buy a complete PC for this one :)

Mainboard
ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI), Mainboard
1 x € 199,90

Processor
AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700X, Prozessor boxed
1 x € 310,-

should be good enough for current games.

I am enjoying C2077 a whole lot, after 50 hours and only a bit of the main quest line.

I have experienced 3 bugs -- 1 crash to desktop and 2 quests (including an early main quest) which could not be completed until I loaded an earlier save -- and of course a not-small amount of the usual open world glitches of rarely seeing something float in the air etc.

There are also implementations which could be improved, maybe over time. In addition, there are design decisions and implementations which are so-so and will almost certainly not be modified. In other words, it's not perfect even if patched, but it is a whole lot of fun. Depending upon how the rest of the game is for me, it's still possible that it could end up in my top 10 games of all time, but it's way too early for me to say at this point.

If someone is on the fence about getting this game, then I would heartily recommend it although I would wait a month or three until the game is further patched.

I did the same, until Oct of this year. Something about the MBs/CPUs of that time period. Man, they had staying power!

I've read that cops will just materialize out of nowhere when you break the law, and will barely chase after you. Is this true? I have not played the game, BTW.

A lot of love went into this game… You can see it everywhere. Despite the bugs, I'm having a lot of fun.

Yes they teleport in just like in GTA5 and in Watch Dogs.
The problem is they teleport in too close to you so you see it happening. This can be easily fixed - there are sidequests where reinforcements spawn further away and drive to the scene in their cars so this can be applied also on the police.

They will chase you but it's easy to escape. Or you can simply kill/KO them all for some XP and loot.

Funny you mention Watch Dogs because I booted that up the other day just to see how it compares. I remember thinking it was pretty cool (for an Ubisoft game) back when it was released.

Compared to CP 2077, it's ugly and simplistic. Ironically though, it has better AI. Citizens and police are more realistic in that game than in CP which is kind of sad given that it was released 6 years ago.

I am 20 hours in now, have done tons of side-quests and only early on in the main-quest. I have come across very few bugs and glitches, just the odd wobbly leg on a rag-doll corpse and the very occasional disappearing unimportant npc. Performance has been great on my PC. I am enjoying and having fun, I know it is a victim of its own hype but I am very happy with the game. The console versions were simply released too early and needed another 4-6 months in development.

Patch 1.05 fixed a lot of bugs for me.
Before i was always keeping backup saves in case a side quest gets bugged and i have to reload to a point just before the said quest. However i enjoy the game this is the first time i have to do it this strongly. I played Witcher 3 day one and i dont remember its quest getting glitched so easily. The problem here is the in game phone, it gets stuck easily. Conversations arent starting or ending and the phone gets glitched. This is my biggest issue and i hope i gets patched. I dont even mind the brain-dead AI of 2000 era since overall the game is very interesting.

Ya know, it may have some bugs (including items you can't pick up because they clip into the ground, a true classic! Every good game has that bug. Like Elex.)

But at least CP77 didn't force-restart my PC when I started it. I'M LOOKING AT YOU, AC: VALHALLA!

The whole situation is sad. I feel especially bad to the ones behind the scenes who made the game (writes, artists, programmers, etc.) who put so much effort into it.

It is one of the best games I have ever played as far as emotional impact, immersion, story, depth, characters … I feel extremely attached to V and all the amazing and unique characters in the game. I love all the little details. I find myself easily getting lost in the world.

I have my complaints and "I wish they had done this instead" but overall it is a wonderful experience and joy to sink into.

EDIT: This cute song reminds me of V and Johnny.

It is sad, and I've tried to make sure the backlash hasn't affected my own enjoyment of the game. I had to stay off the Reddit, for one thing. Hopefully it doesn't sound weird, but your own enthusiasm for the game after being fairly lukewarm on it before launch (because of the 1st person view, etc) has been a real positive for me to counterbalance a bit of the negativity surrounding the launch.

Yea it took me by complete surprise really. It wasn't at all what I expected. I am an emotional person and so this really resonated with me. Not the mechanics or side stuff - but the atmosphere, the whole story (main and side), the characters. Totally sucked me in and made me care.

Also … mind blown .. as I just finished. Best ending in a game I have ever played. Lots of emotions and tears. Completely overwhelmed right now … heh. I am such an emotional mess. But loved it. They just handled the ending I had so fantastic. Especially compared to so many crappy endings I have experienced in some games. It was the perfect ending but obviously can't go into all the details why.

Simply an amazing experience … will leave it at that :)

Glad you liked it so much wolf. Tbh, I wasn't expecting it to be your type of game. :)

I need to pick up the pace. RL hasn't left me much time for gaming this past week.

@wolfgrimdark

Don't be sad cause if all the backlash doesn't get the DLC and expansions cancelled I'm sure the endings for V aren't over yet. Just like Blood and Wine gave Geralt his farewell.

Also no I'm not writing my experience on how I loved this game again. As we have to many threads with my responses already. Go search for them if anyone is interested.

Bottomline I got my best story driven RPG of the year despite it being a mess.

I'll be very surprised if they cancel the DLC and such. This doesn't seem to be a cut your losses situation. With no other major releases on the horizon, I would think that would batter their stock price even further. Seems far more important that they redeem their reputation and rebuild confidence. My guess is they will double down on polishing and fleshing it out, and turn it into a better game that I will enjoy next Christmas!

I hardly think they are going to cancel DLCs. They sold 13 million copies including refunds by 20th December. That's a lot of eddies :D Plus I'm sure they already have some people working on expansions.

PR backlash has a long lasting effect go ask BioWare. The haters/journalists got all Dlc cancelled for Mass Effect Andromeda. I still have a problem with gamer's who caused it.

Sale wise yes CP 20777 sold well, but stock damage, tarnished brand loyalty, refunds, and lets not forget stock lawsuits will put a damper on something in the long run.

We should expect resignations and other policy's to fix the mismanagement as well. Hopefully the workers don't take the heat. It was the top leaders who screwed up.

I'm reminded of the old Greek tale of Icarus.
CDPR aimed to high and hubris is the outcome once again.

I think EA is a very different animal to CDPR, though. They have a large slate of franchises and major releases lined up. When something underperforms their expectations, like ME:A or Dead Space, they have the option to turn their noses up and move on. I don't see that CDPR has that option. If they were to draw a line under Cyberpunk, they'd have nothing really until Witcher 4 comes along. I think that would leave them in a very grim situation. I reckon Cyberpunk is popular enough that they can do a No Man's Sky job, get it to where it needs to be, and live off it for a while.

You never know, though, and now they've entered the weird realm of being publicly traded, it's always possible that things fall apart.

Personally having paid full price for the game on steam i will feel cheated if the game doesn't get the attention and care it deserves (atm i don't feel cheated,yet). I hope it does get the attention because i feel this game is a diamond in the rough.