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HiddenX February 2nd, 2021 18:28

Mass Effect - Mass Effect: Legendary Edition - Launch: May 14
 
Yemeth spotted this tweet:

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Calibrations complete. Relive the legend of Commander Shepard, remastered in 4K Ultra HD. Mass Effect Legendary Edition launches May 14.

More information.

Couchpotato February 2nd, 2021 18:31

Mildly interested as I own the originals and all DLC already. :thinking:

Basically don't know if it's worth buying again just for graphic upgrades.

Pladio February 2nd, 2021 18:39

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Originally Posted by Couchpotato (Post 1061631205)
Mildly interested as I own the originals and all DLC already. :thinking:

Basically don't know if it's worth buying again just for graphic upgrades.

Are there any other changes ?
Do you know if the 3 games have essentially been put together or they're still 3 separate games ?

yemeth February 2nd, 2021 18:41

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Originally Posted by Pladio (Post 1061631206)
Are there any other changes ?
Do you know if the 3 games have essentially been put together or they're still 3 separate games ?

From the press release:
"The remaster package will benefit from AI upscaled textures, improvements to shaders and video effects, updated lighting, and improved dynamic shadows, volumetrics, and depth of field, along with a buttery smooth 60 fps on PC and consoles. Pre-rendered cinematics have also been enhanced to make every story moment feel even more impactful. The PS5 and Series X|S will feature improved load times and the PC version will support high refresh rates and 21:9 aspect ratio out of the box.

The original Mass Effect game features comprehensive world-building enhancements with added detail and depth to locations like Eden Prime, Ilos, and Feros that players will explore in their journey across the galaxy. Mass Effect also includes updated interfaces and UI as well as a variety of quality of life improvements. In addition, combat and exploration are modernized through improved aiming, squad controls and behavior, Mako handling and cameras.

The Mass Effect Legendary Edition features unified character creation options that persists across all three titles and is complete with an improved and expanded selection of hair, makeup and skin tone options. The iconic Female Shepard default appearance from Mass Effect 3 is now available as the default female Shepard appearance in character creation in all three games, further adding to the unified experience across the trilogy."

There's also stuff like rebalanced XP for lvl 60 cap, more consistent auto save points, cover pass, improved AI and boss fights, removal of class-based weapon restrictions, removal of class-based aim penalties, unified control scheme between the games, reduced difficulty/frequency of mini games etc.

Couchpotato February 2nd, 2021 18:52

See basically engine and graphic updates that all. Really cant understand why so many are excited over this. Anyway I might buy it on a very cheap sale next year.

Alrik Fassbauer February 2nd, 2021 19:09

Is there any info on limited installations ? Download only ? System requirements ?

Couchpotato February 2nd, 2021 19:15

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Originally Posted by Alrik Fassbauer (Post 1061631218)
Is there any info on limited installations ? Download only ? System requirements ?

Digital only on the PC and of couse both digital and physical on consoles.

No idea about limited installations or what type of DRM it will use. Though the usual will apply depending on what storefront you buy from. Looks like you have to activate it.

Something about EA on-line activation.

Edit: System Requirements.
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MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS

OS: 64-bit Windows 10
Processor (AMD): FX-8350 or Equivalent
Processor (Intel): Core i5 3570 or Equivalent
Memory: 8 GB
Graphics card (AMD): Radeon 7970 / R9280X or Equivalent
Graphics card (NVIDIA): GTX 760 or Equivalent
DirectX: 11 Compatible video card or equivalent
Hard-drive space: 120 GB

RECOMMENDED REQUIREMENTS

OS: 64-bit Windows 10
Processor (AMD): Ryzen 7 3700X or Equivalent
Processor (Intel): Core i7-7700 or Equivalent
Memory: 16 GB
Graphics card (AMD): Radeon Vega 56 or Equivalent
Graphics card (NVIDIA): GTX 1070 or Equivalent
DirectX: 11 Compatible video card or equivalent
Hard-drive space: 120 GB

danutz_plusplus February 2nd, 2021 19:47

They also release this trailer. Or was it already included?

They mention in the trailer that it has Mass Effect 1/3/4 and 40 DLCs. Is anyone counting? Are they all included? Any idea? I hope so.

Anyway, if they deliver on all that they're saying, I'll be happy. Finally have a reason to play through it all. I never finished Mass Effect 1, since I didn't like some of the story beats. (stuff that you usually see in all recent Bioware games: like stroking the player's ego with cheap stuff). But I'll make an effort to get over that since I keep hearing people praise Mass Effect 2. So I'm kind of excited.

Also, I hope they're selling it on Steam day one with the Origin version.

JDR13 February 2nd, 2021 20:41

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Originally Posted by danutz_plusplus (Post 1061631235)
They mention in the trailer that it has Mass Effect 1/3/4 and 40 DLCs. Is anyone counting? Are they all included? Any idea? I hope so.

Idk, but it should be a big seller if it really includes Mass Effect 4 as well. ;)

Gwendo February 2nd, 2021 20:57

I'll pass this one. The only one I didn't play was Andromeda.

joxer February 2nd, 2021 21:10

https://www.ea.com/games/mass-effect…ition/overview
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INCLUDED CONTENT

Mass Effect Legendary Edition includes single-player base content for all three titles (Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3), your favorite story DLC, promo weapons, armors, and packs:

DLC:

Bring Down the Sky
Genesis
Zaeed – The Price of Revenge
Kasumi – Stolen Memory
Lair of the Shadow Broker
Firewalker Pack
Overlord
Normandy Crash Site
Arrival
Genesis 2
From Ashes
Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut
Leviathan
Omega
Citadel
Equalizer Pack
Aegis Pack
Firepower Pack
Cerberus Weapons and Armor
Arc Projector
ME2 Alternate Appearance Pack 1
ME2 Alternate Appearance Pack 2
ME3 Alternate Appearance Pack 1
Firefight Pack
Groundside Resistance Pack
Recon Operations Pack
Collector's Weapon and Armor
Terminus Weapon and Armor
M-21 Incisor
Blood Dragon Armor
Inferno Armor
Recon Hood
Sentry Interface
Umbra Visor
N7 Warfare Gear
AT-12 Raider
Chakram Launcher
M-55 Argus
M-90 Indra
Reckoner Knight Armor
N7 Collector's Edition Pack
The preorder price asks me 60€.
As I have everything, not just games but DLC too, I don't think I'm gonna budge for just a few visuals.

But those who never played any of these games, this offer IMO should not be skipped.
Because you see… There is a sellpoint catch:
"Includes singleplayer content only".

danutz_plusplus February 2nd, 2021 21:18

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Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061631258)
https://www.ea.com/games/mass-effect…ition/overview


The preorder price asks me 60€.
As I have everything, not just games but DLC too, I don't think I'm gonna budge for just a few visuals.

But those who never played any of these games, this offer IMO should not be skipped.
Because you see… There is a sellpoint catch:
"Includes singleplayer content only".

Thanks for posting the DLC list. I'm too lazy to do a thorough check, but it looks like the main stuff is there. At least I remember the Shadowbroker and the From Ashes being among the main culprits usually left out? Am I remembering that correctly?

joxer February 2nd, 2021 21:25

Not just those two.
Lemme quote my ancient post about ME games DLC in the past (mission type DLC are marked):
https://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/show…post1061240422
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Originally Posted by joxer (Post 1061240422)
First of all, I don't care for nor want horse armor DLC. If you love stuff like alternate appearance to give some fancy clothes to your pardie, feel free to buy it. Also have to add that ME1 gives Bring Down the Sky for free and Pinnacle Station is not moneylaundry scheme but you can buy it with legit currency, so we're left with ME2 and ME3.

Assuming most of us want only missions DLC for ME2 and ME3 on PC (there are free or bundled DLC on consoles) and want to buy enough Bioware points for only mission DLC, the list is as appearing in Origin:

ME2:
Genesis - interactive comic book to make ME1 choices - they charge 320 BP for that crap?
Arrival - an assignment - 560 BP
Alternate appearance pack 2 - Miranda's butt never looked fancier - 160 BP
Lair of the Shadow Broker - a mission - 800 BP
Firepower pack - OP weapons - 160 BP
Aegis pack - OP aniper and 5 armor parts - 160 BP
Overlord pack - 4 assignments - 560 BP
Equalizer pack - OP armor set - 160 BP
Kasumi - 2 missions and a squadmate - 560 BP
Alternate appearance pack 1 - Garus' different looking butt, puhlease - 160 BP

ME3:
Alternate appearance pack 1 - :rolleyes: - 160 BP
Genesis 2 - make ME2 choices like you didn't play it ever - 320 BP
Leviathan - 10 missions of probably cut out content from the game - 800 BP
Citadel - 17 missions - 1200 BP
Groundside resistance pack - OP weapons - 160 BP
Omega - 5 missions - 1200 BP
Fireflight pack - OP weapons - 160 BP
From Ashes - essential and probably cut out mission/squadmate - 800 BP


mercy February 2nd, 2021 21:38

Sadly, this is only thing that Bioware can offer nowadays.

Darkheart February 2nd, 2021 22:05

Since I haven't played ME 3 and some of the DLC I am tempted for the first time to install Origin. But then again, I hate EA so I might not.

Feist February 2nd, 2021 22:09

I'll be skipping it. The first game in the series was the only one I liked.

In the second title I began suspecting that the developers possessed malicious mindreaders and had gone through my wishlist for the sequel, only to do the absolute opposite for every-single-point on the list. The third game was just dissapointing all around, long before I even reached the "infamous" ending.

So this series was essentialy my long "Bioware Love Affair" terminated with extreme prejudice. :biggrin:

Carnifex February 2nd, 2021 22:10

Since there are only two Mass Effect games, I'll be gleefully ignoring these shenanigans. That third one…..I still have the nightmares about how sucky it was before I demanded a refund!!

Ripper February 2nd, 2021 22:30

I remember the trailer for ME 2 being particularly good.

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I remember thinking: "Alrighty, then. Let's have some of that." It's not often I see a trailer these days that grabs me that way.

Pladio February 2nd, 2021 22:57

I played through ME3 recently and I don't get all the hatred for it.

Ripper February 2nd, 2021 23:19

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Originally Posted by Pladio (Post 1061631280)
I played through ME3 recently and I don't get all the hatred for it.

Yeah, I enjoyed a lot of it. I do the get the criticism of the deus ex machina green/blue/red ending, rather than something than something more related to your actions throughout the saga. I also see the contempt for having a separate mobile game, which was the only way to get a boost to your troop strength, to get the "best" endings.

Redglyph February 2nd, 2021 23:26

That's going to be long, not sure I want to go through a remake of games I partially played when there's quite a few promising new ones. Maybe on a sale, in one year or so.

JDR13 February 2nd, 2021 23:35

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Originally Posted by Ripper (Post 1061631275)
I remember the trailer for ME 2 being particularly good.

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I remember thinking: "Alrighty, then. Let's have some of that." It's not often I see a trailer these days that grabs me that way.

That trailer makes it seem a lot better than I remember it being. Almost makes me want to play it again.

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Originally Posted by Ripper (Post 1061631284)
Yeah, I enjoyed a lot of it. I do the get the criticism of the deus ex machina green/blue/red ending, rather than something than something more related to your actions throughout the saga. I also see the contempt for having a separate mobile game, which was the only way to get a boost to your troop strength, to get the "best" endings.

Did the mobile game really have much of an impact on that though? I don't recall having any difficulty getting a high military strength without it.

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Originally Posted by Redglyph (Post 1061631286)
That's going to be long, not sure I want to go through a remake of games I partially played when there's quite a few promising new ones. Maybe on a sale, in one year or so.

It's not even a remake. It's just a remaster, and from what I can see, it doesn't look extraordinarily different from the originals. This reeks of being a cash grab.

Ripper February 2nd, 2021 23:39

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Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061631289)
Did the mobile game really have much of an impact on that though? I don't recall having any difficulty getting a high military strength without it.

Spoiler

Pladio February 3rd, 2021 00:07

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Originally Posted by Ripper (Post 1061631290)
Spoiler

I think they changed it as I didn't do any of it and was allowed all the endings.

Iget what you mean about the final choice ending. I guess they didn't know how to end it, but I thought the game was a lot of fun and the ending didn't detract from it for me.

danutz_plusplus February 3rd, 2021 00:22

Mass Effect Legendary Edition Has HUGE Changes

Apparently.

Mass Effect 2's Cut Characters Revealed

Can anyone please explain what do they mean by cut characters? Haven't played ME2, and don't want to spoil myself. Did they cut characters out of the legendary edition or is the name of the video just inappropriately named?

EDIT:
I've seen the gamespot video with the changes done in the legendary edition, and honestly it feels like very little effort went into it. There's been excuses after excuses as why various major changes couldn't be done. Mostly due to not having that kind of budget, I imagine. Which just goes to show how much they wanted to invest in this edition. Not very legendary imo.

Also, apparently there is a missing DLC. Pinnacle station in ME1.

Anyways, I'll play it and see for myself.

JDR13 February 3rd, 2021 01:12

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Originally Posted by danutz_plusplus (Post 1061631294)
There's been excuses after excuses as why various major changes couldn't be done. Mostly due to not having that kind of budget

Yeah right, since when is budget an issue for Bioware/EA?

It's also strange to me that this is only a little over 3 months away and yet they've shown almost nothing in the way of screenshots or footage.

Lynchden February 3rd, 2021 01:12

I’m curious about the unified control part. I hope they add controller support for the first game, though I’m not holding out much hope.

purpleblob February 3rd, 2021 01:36

I'm guessing this still requires Origins to play? If so, I will pass (I think my old physical copies don't require Origins except for ME3).

JDR13 February 3rd, 2021 01:45

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Originally Posted by purpleblob (Post 1061631301)
I'm guessing this still requires Origins to play? If so, I will pass (I think my old physical copies don't require Origins except for ME3).

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Mass Effect™ Legendary Edition Terms and Conditions
INTERNET CONNECTION; EA ACCOUNT; ACCEPTANCE OF EA USER AGREEMENT (terms.ea.com), PRIVACY AND COOKIE POLICY (privacy.ea.com), AND ORIGIN END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT (ea.com/legal) AND INSTALLATION OF THE ORIGIN CLIENT SOFTWARE (origin.com/download) REQUIRED TO PLAY. ACCESS TO SOFTWARE CONTENT IS LIMITED TO ONE EA ACCOUNT AND IS NON-TRANSFERABLE AFTER PURCHASE. YOU MUST BE 13+ TO REGISTER FOR AN EA ACCOUNT. CONTENT UPDATES MAY BE DOWNLOADED AUTOMATICALLY, REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STORAGE, AND INCUR BANDWIDTH USAGE FEES. EA MAY PROVIDE CERTAIN FREE INCREMENTAL CONTENT AND/OR UPDATES.
I wouldn't have expected otherwise. It doesn't keep me from playing it though if I wanted to. I've never had any issues with Origin.

danutz_plusplus February 3rd, 2021 02:15

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Originally Posted by purpleblob (Post 1061631301)
I'm guessing this still requires Origins to play? If so, I will pass (I think my old physical copies don't require Origins except for ME3).

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061631303)
I wouldn't have expected otherwise. It doesn't keep me from playing it though if I wanted to. I've never had any issues with Origin.

If you get it on steam it still requires a "light" version of origin. You don't even have to be logged in (or it logs you into origin without me noticing anything). I remember I even had an issue with some origin game I started from steam and it had issues starting until I explicitly logged out of origin. Then it worked fine.

Zloth February 3rd, 2021 06:03

I'll probably get it (eventually) because I missed all but one of the DLCs so, by Christmas, I'm sure it will be well worth the price for me.

The only change that got my attention was improvements to driving the Mako around in the first game. That thing got pretty crazy in the first game. Improved graphics will be nice, too.

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Originally Posted by Pladio (Post 1061631293)
I think they changed it as I didn't do any of it and was allowed all the endings.

Yep, me too - the ending I got matched one of the good endings I saw on YT when I watched all of them.
Quote:

Iget what you mean about the final choice ending. I guess they didn't know how to end it, but I thought the game was a lot of fun and the ending didn't detract from it for me.
I even liked the ending. The green ending made perfect sense to me: we united the AIs and the meatbags into one, removing the whole reason the Reapers were made. I suppose I could have picked an ending that wouldn't have made sense for my character if I had wanted but that's not unlike any other choices in the game.

Pladio February 3rd, 2021 09:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zloth (Post 1061631311)
I'll probably get it (eventually) because I missed all but one of the DLCs so, by Christmas, I'm sure it will be well worth the price for me.



The only change that got my attention was improvements to driving the Mako around in the first game. That thing got pretty crazy in the first game. Improved graphics will be nice, too.





Yep, me too - the ending I got matched one of the good endings I saw on YT when I watched all of them.



I even liked the ending. The green ending made perfect sense to me: we united the AIs and the meatbags into one, removing the whole reason the Reapers were made. I suppose I could have picked an ending that wouldn't have made sense for my character if I had wanted but that's not unlike any other choices in the game.

Yeah, but it should have moved towards that ending if you were supportive of both humans and ai.
Making it a choice is probably what makes it annoying for lots of people.

Same with Deus Ex HR

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Redglyph February 3rd, 2021 10:49

This article lists the differences in ME1 that are not just visual improvements. Since it benefits from QoL improvements of ME2 & ME3, it may be the most interesting part of the remaster for who hasn't played it yet:

https://www.rpgsite.net/feature/1071…-mass-effect-1

I haven't checked their sources.

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Our Top 5 Changes in Mass Effect 1's Legendary Edition Remaster:
  • Fast Elevators, at last: in a demo of the PC version of Legendary Edition versus the original game, BioWare showed that a 52-second elevator ride from the Citadel Wards to the Presidium now only takes 14 seconds in the remaster. In addition, if dialogue is playing out during an elevator ride, an optional skip prompt will appear once the area loading the elevator ride hides is complete.
  • New Game+ No Longer Required for Level 60: for the Legendary Edition, BioWare has rebalanced the XP required to hit Level 60, the Level Cap. This is important because in the original game, New Game+ was required to hit level cap, and hitting level cap unlocked significant bonuses in Mass Effect 2. In the Legendary Edition, you'll be able to hit 60 and max out your bonuses even on the first play-through.
  • No more Class-Based Weapon Restrictions: in the original ME1, not all classes can use all weapons. This has been rebalanced for the Trilogy Remaster, with restrictions removed. This means that, for instance, that the Biotic-focused Sentinel class can use weapons other than pistols - but they won't be able to train and put skill points into those weapon classes, limiting their abilities. In addition, penalties to aim based on your class have been eliminated.
  • Aiming & Weapon Changes & Improvements: traditional RPG fans who struggle with the shooter elements will be pleased to know that ME1 now has a proper aim assist, including a 'snap to' enemy function, just like the latter two games. In addition, every weapon has been rebalanced and tweaked to try to give every weapon and every manufacturer "a unique feel".
  • The Mako gets an upgrade: ME1's infamous ground vehicle featured controls and physics that often defied logic to often hilarious impact, but these things have been tweaked for the Legendary Edition. There's new physics, an alternative control scheme, an overall speed boost, and camera shake to make it feel more dynamic.

In addition, here's some other changes you can expect to see and experience in the Mass Effect Legendary Edition version of Mass Effect 1, which is functionally the 4K Remaster of the game.
  • Modernized HUD, more in line with ME2 & 3
  • Improved AI for both enemies and squad member allies
  • Boss Encounter improvements & rebalancing
  • Mini game changes - mini-games are now the same across all platforms, and have reduced difficulty & frequency
  • Control Scheme adjusted to be closer to ME2 & 3, including a dedicated melee button
  • Smoother Camera Control, including when aiming down a scope
  • Improved First Aid cooldown - presumably to make it quicker
  • More Customization options - as well as there being one unified 'Shepard' character model throughout the series, be that default or custom, all customization options are now uniform across all three games. If an option was available in ME3, it now exists in ME1.
  • PC version upgrades including proper native controller support, better keybinding options and 21:9 ultrawide support


Lolozaur February 3rd, 2021 11:20

get ALOT mod and fuck their "remaster"

darklord February 3rd, 2021 11:26

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Mako handling
I mean if I'm going to replay ME1, then it's practically worth it just for this!

Daniel.

Zloth February 3rd, 2021 16:53

Hitting level 60 so you can get max bonuses for ME2: But, if you're the type of player that will do all the quests it takes to get to that level, do you even need those bonuses??

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Originally Posted by Pladio (Post 1061631319)
Making it a choice is probably what makes it annoying for lots of people.

But how is that different from any other choice in the game? I was playing a Shepard so good that, if it had been Knights of the Old Republic, the woman would have glowed in the dark. But still the game constantly gave me the option to piss all over somebody completely out of the blue. If I decide to do that, it's called role playing. If I decide that Shepard watching her home world burn coupled with some pretty hard knocks to the head means her anger would make her pick the blue option (and regret it later), then that's the game's failure to take into account my past choices and force me to use green??

Kos February 3rd, 2021 17:27

I own the 3 games but I preordered this one too.
I will certainly enjoy replaying ME1 with better controls and the 3 games with an unified look and feel. Re watching the trailers, I missed most of those guys.

I don't lament EA doing a remaster of their old games, they are the only things worth playing in their catalog.

JDR13 February 3rd, 2021 17:58

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Originally Posted by Kos (Post 1061631353)
I don't lament EA doing a remaster of their old games, they are the only things worth playing in their catalog.

Depends what you mean by old. Also, some of their newer games are quite good like Jedi: Fallen Order.

Kos February 3rd, 2021 18:06

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Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 1061631359)
Depends what you mean by old. Also, some of their newer games are quite good like Jedi: Fallen Order.

I didn't like it but I can understand lot of people could really appreciate it.
But this game is an oddity for EA lately, mostly a catalog error: Single Player, Star Wars well done and without controversy?

Couchpotato February 3rd, 2021 18:08

Yet didn't EA has also lose the rights to only make Star Wars games? So I look forward to seeing what other developers can release. Hopefully we get another RPG game.

Anyway back on topic I wonder how that unified Shepherd will work?

As the last time something like that was implemented was with Dragon Age Inquisition, and you needed to use origin, and another website called Dragon Age Keep.


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