Starfinder?
 

Let's throw a bit of rumour ;)

That's the tweet Owlcat Games just posted:

https://i.ibb.co/C5pYndZ/image.png

As a reminder, end of July 2020, someone had spotted a job offer in Russian on Twitter, that roughly translates to "Owlcat Games (creators of Pathfinder: Kingmaker and Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous) are looking for Lead / Senior 3d Environment Artist for a new unannounced project (turn-based CRPG in a sci-fi setting) - a leading 3d environment artist," which has led to some speculation since Starfinder is the other Paizo's product, the sci-fi counterpart to Pathfinder.

This looks like a confirmation of what's cooking next, hopefully they'll elaborate soon.

If that's true, I find it quite exciting. Even though the Pathfinder lore and setting is very interesting and I wouldn't mind a 3rd game there, this change would be refreshing. On the other hand, that may not please everyone, and there is the concern that it could imply a lot of extra development due to the new setting.

The prospect of a game that would be designed as turn-based from the ground up is probably what's most exciting about this prospect for me.

Nooooo my hope for Iron Gods is dwindling :(

Maybe they're big enough to handle both?

Me and a few people I know would be up for a well done Starfinder game, definitely.

A new theory from someone else - stargazer prestige class for WotR DLC lol

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/pre…s-z/stargazer/

Pff…posted this rumor already last year. Glad to see some more news at least.

Anyway back then I claimed it would be Starfinder due to the rule-set being close to Pathfinder, and that's it's another IP owned by paizo. They are also pleased with OwlCat.

The fact it's turn-cased doesn't bother me either as I love Sc-Fi RPGs.

That would also make sense :)
Well, except this job ad, but that could be something else entirely, or even something they cancelled.

Wait and see, I suppose.

Just a 'what if' video, nothing substantial. @Couchpotato, hopefully Owlcat Games will watch this and get the hint :p

Nice find I wonder why they officially haven't announced anything yet? Maybe Wrath of the Righteous took longer to finish then they thought? Well we'll see as the saying goes.

That Pathfinder theory does make sense as there is an area in the setting called Numeria were a spaceship crashed. It has warlords, barbarians, and advanced tech.

So, more evidence it *could* be Starfinder:

https://paizo.com/threads/rzs43k88?S…sedspoilered#1

The link doesn't seem to work anymore - maybe they locked it? Hmmm

Uh oh. But it's quite an old picture, like the job ad someone found long ago. Whatever they were for, this must have been something else.

We should try and make them talk :p

I've been trying but they are tight-lipped!

Starfinder is the theory I thought holds the most merit. After the epicness of Wrath with its mythic levels I'd guess every other adventure path would feel like a downgrade, but I don't know anything of the tabletop other than a few snippets I picked up along the way. Starfinder would mean a change of pace.

Other than that, Rise of the Runelords (target level 17) and Return of the Runelords (target level 20) seemed to be fairly popular adventure paths for Pathfinder.

I would love to see this too, although I know that Purple and others would rather see another fantasy setting.

Wrath of the Righteous was epic, but I don't believe it should eclipse any further attempt to make Pathfinder AP-based games. It had one major issue, or at least that's what I feel from the gameplay and from others' comments: it's an epic crusade vs evil. This puts a lot of pressure on the style of gameplay, and it's not easy to play evil, or to play casual even if some mythic paths are fun-oriented. I love it but it doesn't please everyone (but then, it never does).

So I believe there's room for another fantasy AP with a completely different atmosphere, I'm confident Owlcat can make it as great as WotR and improve it even further.

They have to release the DLCs first anyway, we'll see. :)

Damnit, now the picture also seem to be gone!

Ah well. I have a feeling their next game indeed would be Starfinder. Bummer for me but lets see if they can convince me over eventually ;)

The plot thickens!

No, I still see it, maybe it was just a glitch.

There is a copy on the archive, it looks kind of like a shadowrun concept image.
However, a comment paizo form said it was a fake, citing a reddit post by PaizoPR.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/…akelotr97b.gif

Before Mass Effect I couldn't imagine to like RPGs in a SciFi setting. It taught me otherwise.

I mean if they do a Starfinder game with the same focus on story, companions, character customization etc. it could still be a game for you?

However I'd also like another Pathfinder game with traditional fantasy better. Perhaps it'll be in Numeria after all.

Also I'm already mixing up Starfield and Star Citizen. I can't handle a Starfinder now. ;)

I also liked Mass Effect (the only sci fi setting game I liked so far) so it is possible that I might end up liking a Starfinder game from Owlcats.

In saying that tho, I know I'd still prefer traditional fantasy setting more :X

I just like Tolkien like outfits more than spacesuits lol

I'd like a sci-fi setting but I'm not sure about Starfinder anymore, or even a game by Owlcat Games, on second thought. Or then it's only for the sake of variety, and curiosity.

I came to realize that an important part of what I enjoy in modern settings is the ability to click on things, activate mechanisms and to play with futuristic gadgets. So a good level of interaction with the environment; more like Encased than Pathfinder, for ex. Or like most of Bethesda Game Studios' games regarding the interactivity.

Owlcat Games are great for the story, quests and the ruleset, but not the environment which is almost static (even the NPCs).

Perhaps that it's hard to picture sci-fi combat with a D&D ruleset too.

So Starfield may be a more appropriate format for me… which is a strange conclusion. It's just that it won't have a good story, great quests or rich companions like Pathfinder. We can't have it all, can we?

Story and companion interactions are what I value the most in RPGs so I need those :P I'm less keen on environment interactivity - it feels too gimmicky for me most of the time. I did enjoy environment interactivity in some games like MHW and Wildermyth, so its not like I hate them, its just not my preferred content choice.

I think the only D&D like sci fi combat I experienced was KotOR1 but I certainly found it very boring for some reason.

I liked KotOR but it didn't leave an everlasting impression. I enjoyed the funny dialogues with HK-47 and the general atmosphere of the game, but the combats were just OK, and I wasn't a big fan of the format.

It felt more superficial in story, companions, and combat, perhaps that's why it could feel boring?

I see no reason why SciFi combat wouldn't work in a D20 ruleset. Blasters aren't any different from bows. What else could be a problem?

It's not a problem, just that I'm not used to it and it feels strange. For one, modern ranged weapons are so much more precise and reliable than bows, so a limited range and the randomness will feel even more artificial.

Yes, could be - to me, KotOR1 screamed fan service for SW fans and didn't seem very interesting for those who don't know a thing about SW (that's me)

I think it makes sense since its more precise gun vs. more sophisticated armor as well - explains why you still miss with the gun ;)

You haven't watched SW?? O_O
But yes, that would remove a part of the motivation to play the game.

Well, maybe, but it's possible to miss without armour too. We can surely find possible justifications for all that, or just accept the rules for the sake of the game. I'm just saying it feels strange, but I'm sure it would be fine after playing it for a while. :)

Haven't watched a single SW movie ;) KotOR1 was my first exposure to SW

It's never too late but some of the episodes haven't aged well. But I suppose it's not your favourite type of movie. ;)