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HiddenX June 7th, 2021 00:28

NWN2 Mod: Baldur's Gate 2: Reloaded - New Trailer
 
Gabrielarantest spotted a new trailer for the NWN2 Mod: Baldur's Gate 2: Reloaded:

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Baldur's Gate 2: Reloaded | Promo Trailer

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Couchpotato June 7th, 2021 00:54

Wait no one claimed this is a waste of time again. I must be on a different site. Anyhow I can't wait to play this. In my opinion much better then the remasters from Beamdog.

JFarrell71 June 7th, 2021 01:38

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Originally Posted by Couchpotato (Post 1061643760)
Wait no one claimed this is a waste of time again. I must be on a different site. Anyhow I can't wait to play this. In my opinion much better then the remasters from Beamdog.

Give me a minute! =p

gabrielarantest June 7th, 2021 02:24

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Originally Posted by Couchpotato (Post 1061643760)
Wait no one claimed this is a waste of time again. I must be on a different site. Anyhow I can't wait to play this. In my opinion much better then the remasters from Beamdog.

According to a Facebook post, this will be releasing soon.

And yes, someone claimed that this was a waste of time. At the time I thought that this was a very distasteful comment to be made about such hard work that was put on this mod.

But I don't think I will care about such comments anymore :lol:

Nereida June 7th, 2021 03:08

What a waste of t-- dammit.

Carnifex June 7th, 2021 03:27

I'll be playing this at some point, for certain!

KaosWarMonk June 7th, 2021 05:55

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Originally Posted by Carnifex (Post 1061643768)
I'll be playing this at some point, for certain!

Me too. Is this the one rj_shea (sp?) was working on?

Denril June 7th, 2021 06:50

I have Nw2 on disk somewhere.
Would love to have it on steam,but its unavailable.

Morrandir June 7th, 2021 08:01

Judging from the trailer for me personally it lacks the charme of the beautiful 2D maps.

However when I want to replay BG2 I'll still give it a try.

JFarrell71 June 7th, 2021 08:01

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Originally Posted by Denril (Post 1061643775)
I have Nw2 on disk somewhere.
Would love to have it on steam,but its unavailable.

Does it have to be on Steam? And if so, why? GOG Games has it. https://www.gog.com/game/neverwinter_nights_2_complete

Redglyph June 7th, 2021 09:09

I hadn't played Baldur's Gate before when I tried the first Baldur's Gate: Reloaded end of last year, and I quickly gave up. Then I played the Enhanced Edition (so, the original format) and I liked it a lot. So for once I may claim the "waste of time" ;)

It's the strange mix of newer models and maps with old videos and old map design, and mainly the NWN 2 engine with all its bugs and problems that likely put me off. It felt strange and awkward to use. Note that I tried two NWN 2 original campaigns after that and stopped too, even with community fixes it was not bearable.

I must admit that something else disturbed me, those NPC's fake spoken "greetings" (what they first say when we engage them) that say something entirely different than what they actually say in the text. At the time I thought there were bugs and on top of the rest, that was the end of it.

I'm not so bothered with the old graphics, so I prefer the original experience, at least it's consistent and less bugged. Sorry to be negative, it's just my personal preference.

Andrew23 June 7th, 2021 10:06

For me, old 2D will always be superior to old 3D. Today, Im still able to forget myself in beautiful pre-rendered backgrounds of BG2, but as for early 3D ov NWN and NWN2 …
I disliked it already at time of release. So for my personal taste - this is kinda downgrade. But thats just my opinion, it shouldnt spoil fun for anyone who thinks otherwise.

Couchpotato June 7th, 2021 10:13

Well I love both NWN 1&2 so I'm very biased. Still play both. I actually find I enjoy the second game more then the first. I even released a few mods over the last five years.

So no not a waste if time for me sorry not sorry.:p

Redglyph June 7th, 2021 10:52

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Originally Posted by Couchpotato (Post 1061643799)
Well I love both NWN 1&2 so I'm very biased. Still play both. I actually find I enjoy the second game more then the first. I even released a few mods over the last five years.

So no not a waste if time for me sorry not sorry.:p

I enjoyed it back then, it's just that it doesn't seem to like today's OS, for me anyway. For example I had a lot of camera and mouse issues that I didn't have before, that have also been reported by others. The game is not supported anymore by Obsidian, even if they are still selling it, and there is no Enhanced Edition so it's in limbo.

fatknacker50 June 7th, 2021 12:37

"Go for the Mod Boo, go for the Mod"…

Hastar June 7th, 2021 14:07

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Originally Posted by Andrew23 (Post 1061643797)
For me, old 2D will always be superior to old 3D. Today, Im still able to forget myself in beautiful pre-rendered backgrounds of BG2, but as for early 3D ov NWN and NWN2 …
I disliked it already at time of release. So for my personal taste - this is kinda downgrade. But thats just my opinion, it shouldnt spoil fun for anyone who thinks otherwise.

Don't forget Heroes of Might and Magic 3. I still have fun with that game today. I will definitely try this Mod out.

Someone made a Mod of The Bard's Tale in one of the NWN games. I had so much fun with that Mod.

Ephiron June 7th, 2021 14:19

What saddens me is that I haven't seen anyone make interesting/ambitious module/campaign for either Neverwinter Nights in so many years. I don't think I'll ever understand an appeal of these zero-creativity remake mods…

Nereida June 7th, 2021 15:47

Because NWN has an old engine, and is a waste of time to make anything for, unless your target audience is 200 players. Anyone with any ambition and talent would just make their own engine, or use a more developed and versatile engine, like Unity. At least NWN1 had the charm and UI and controls were clean and worked well, unlike NWN2.

The only reason to do anything for NWN2 is because you enjoy making it, as a hobby, for your own enjoyment, and then sharing it with others is fine and fun, like those people with a lot of free time that make a giant Millenium Falcon or the city of Minas Tirith with Minecraft blocks.

Couchpotato June 7th, 2021 16:20

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Originally Posted by Ephiron (Post 1061643808)
What saddens me is that I haven't seen anyone make interesting/ambitious module/campaign for either Neverwinter Nights in so many years. I don't think I'll ever understand an appeal of these zero-creativity remake mods…

The NWN mod scene has quieted down.

Though with the enhanced edition a new pay to play campaign mod called Dark Dreams of Furiae and an older mod Tyrants of the Moonsea was finally finished.

Still a few campaign mods and remakes of older mods are getting released periodically. It's the same situation with NWN2. You'll never see Unity mods like these never.

Couchpotato June 7th, 2021 16:23

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Originally Posted by Nereida (Post 1061643812)
Anyone with any ambition and talent would just make their own engine, or use a more developed and versatile engine, like Unity. At least NWN1 had the charm and UI and controls were clean and worked well, unlike NWN2.

I wouldn't count on any large Unity campaign mods as that ship has sailed. It takes to much work when it's just easier to create other mods instead of new campaigns.

Obsidian released a few videos about this very topic during PoE development.

txa1265 June 8th, 2021 13:56

I think this looks great, and will definitely give it a try. Haven't installed the BG1 remake mod, but this reminds me I should try!

stealth June 8th, 2021 16:42

Interesting effort but to me remaking BGII in the rather bland looking Electron Engine doesn't really improve on the original game, at least to me.

gabrielarantest June 8th, 2021 17:29

The advantage of updating the BG campaign to NWN2 is not about the engine. You are getting it wrong. The original BG series used the AD&D (2nd edition D&D) mechanics, which are somewhat confusing, whereas NWN2 uses the D&D3.5 ruleset. Just for that, this is worth it. Moreover, while I agree that NWN outdated 3D didn't age well, that is not the case for NWN2. If you use the right mods NWN2 can still look great, well, IMO at least.

gabrielarantest June 8th, 2021 17:33

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Originally Posted by Couchpotato (Post 1061643799)
Well I love both NWN 1&2 so I'm very biased. Still play both. I actually find I enjoy the second game more then the first. I even released a few mods over the last five years.

So no not a waste if time for me sorry not sorry.:p

NWN2 is one of my favorite games of all time. I still play it from time to time and I never forget its soundtrack and its beautiful starred sky at night. Love it.

Which mods did you release?

Nereida June 8th, 2021 17:48

Actually, now NWN1 can look good thanks to Enhanced Edition. You can import some pretty neat hi-res textures, models, props, etc. While NWN2 still looks like the 15 years outdated game it is. It never was better than NWN1, at any point in history, neither as an engine or as a game. Now it's just even worse, as NWN1 got the facelift/tech upgrade and NWN2 didn't.

Alrik Fassbauer June 8th, 2021 18:02

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Baldur's Gate 2: Reloaded
Oh, they have guns now in the Forgotten Realms ?

stealth June 8th, 2021 18:10

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Originally Posted by gabrielarantest (Post 1061643926)
The advantage of updating the BG campaign to NWN2 is not about the engine. You are getting it wrong. The original BG series used the AD&D (2nd edition D&D) mechanics, which are somewhat confusing, whereas NWN2 uses the D&D3.5 ruleset. Just for that, this is worth it. Moreover, while I agree that NWN outdated 3D didn't age well, that is not the case for NWN2. If you use the right mods NWN2 can still look great, well, IMO at least.

I wouldn't say I'm getting it wrong. :) I guess my point is that I feel that BGII is perfect as it is and I don't see the need to remake it. Again, I think it is cool that the team pursue this and wish them all the best but it is not something for me.

gabrielarantest June 8th, 2021 18:31

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Originally Posted by Nereida (Post 1061643932)
Now it's just even worse, as NWN1 got the facelift/tech upgrade and NWN2 didn't.

https://www.nexusmods.com/neverwinter2/mods/212

https://www.nexusmods.com/neverwinter2/mods/81

These are just examples. It is not official, but they are good nonetheless.

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Originally Posted by stealth (Post 1061643940)
I wouldn't say I'm getting it wrong. :) I guess my point is that I feel that BGII is perfect as it is and I don't see the need to remake it. Again, I think it is cool that the team pursue this and wish them all the best but it is not something for me.

Yeah, sure, but I was not aiming specifically at you. It was just a general comment about what people were saying that the "engine this" or "the engine that". I was saying that the upgrade here was not the engine, but other stuff.

Nereida June 8th, 2021 18:51

I see your point on third ed conversion, just not with using NWN2 for it.


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