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Retrying NWN 2
I bought it brand new when it came out 2 years ago, and played it for a while but eventually the party AI and the camera made me stop (I never played NWN 1 for reference).
So, last weekend after reading some posts here, I decided to try again. The updater got it to version 1.21 or something. I have the original campaign only, I have the two expansions ordered, so a few questions: 1) Puppet mode. So I decided to try puppet mode for all characters. I tried several AI options but it always ended up in characters running all over the place triggering traps and receiving AOOs from moving everywhere. Is there some AI configuration that makes it usable? Puppet mode is sort of cumbersome (like, I usually don't bother with special abilities like power-attack, but when not in puppet mode they do use them) 2) Camera. I'm playing mostly in strategy mode as zoomed out as possible, but the camera is always around the main character. Did I miss a way to move my camera freely around the map like in BG? 3) Sound. I have SB Live card, so I selected EAX audio originally, but the voices always sounded like they were inside a cavern. I had to switch to software sound but was wondering if it's a known problem with a solution 4) Expansions. I want to play everything in order, but are there any benefits to the OC if I install the expansions? Should I install the expansions when I receive them or wait until I finish the OC? 5) Gems. I sold all the gems I had thinking they were just cash loot, then I found a book that says how to create magical items I need them. Am I screwed? or is there a place where I can buy all the gems? (I sold rubies, diamonds, malachites, etc) 6) How does playing online work? Do I have to finish the OC or have the expansions installed to try them? Do I have to create new characters? Any suggestions which servers/campaigns/adventures to try? Right now I'm in Neverwinter, starting the quests to get into the merchant's zone. My original aborted run ended not much later than that (I think I quit sometime after getting in the merchant's quarter) Edit: Oh, and I forgot one question… 7) Is there a NO-DVD patch somewhere I can use so I don't have to put the DVD in when I play? |
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I also found a merchant in Neverwinter that sells gems, so I didn't lose much by selling all I had before (just some money). |
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You get access to new classes/races in the OC after installing the add-ons (when creating new characters). Other than that, I don't think there are any advantages.
Broadcast command is pretty much the only way to properly control your characters without manually telling everyone what to do. I think the hotkey is B or V, but I might be wrong. Basically I just pop it up once, and place the three commands that PJ mentioned on the hotbars of the characters I tend to use the most manually, so they can tell everyone else what to do (i.e attack nearest if they're just standing around instead of attacking, or stand your ground if I want to move ahead with a rogue to disarm traps. I use the follow command the most however, since it tends to get people moving in the right direction if they're either going the wrong way, or not going anywhere). |
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I also use the broadcast commands extensively for control. Attack, hold, and follow are very helpful. |
Playing online is a bit problematic. No more server hopping. You have to dl the walk mesh for every world you want to try online. This is like dl a huge hak for every single world, along with any other hak paks they may have. I have heard that online play has improved but I have not tried it lately as I was so completely disgusted with the way on line play worked. You do not have to complete anything to play online just have the latest patch and of course every server will require you to have a server vault character for their server. Research carefully what type of server you are interested in and pick one they try online play and see what you think.
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The autodownloader will not be in the next patch, but the patch following it. 1.22 is about to released, 1.23 is the one with the autodownloader. The beta for 1.23 (excluding usual fixes, only the downloader) will be out very shortly after 1.22 though, as they want to test the downloader extensively before releasing a 1.23 final patch.
The downloader should enable you to try servers out easily and 'server-hop' more easily, though you still have to deal with the fairly big downloads. But you won't have to search around websites to find whatever downloads you need, that will be handled in the game client so to speak so it should streamline the process quite a bit. |
Well I finally finished the OC (man that was a long game!). It was ok, the only thing I didn't like was when they had me (several times) soloing some tough battles. Since my character was a rogue, it was very tough since most of my damage output needed a partner for the sneak attack. I had to 'exploit' the game to pass those fights.
I now started Mask of the Betrayer, but created a new char instead of importing my rogue in case the situation repeats. I now made a full earth genasi barbarian/frenzied berserker with a big two-handed sword so that shouldn't be a problem anymore :) |
Yes OC is probably the longest CRPG I played… and finished. I doubt I'll ever finish stuff like Oblivion or G3. MotB is better than the OC, you just need not become paranoiac about the special soul system and avoid evil or neutral path for your first play because they are much more difficult to play.
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I did the evil path. It is quite sickeningly, horrifyingly evil, and it's not all that hard either -- if you do one really evil quest, you get a perk that lets you devour souls as well as spirits, which means that survival is not a problem even at maximum craving.
I didn't think it was all that much *fun* though. I don't derive a lot of enjoyment from betraying my friends, sending innocents to be eaten alive by cannibal monsters, or that sort of thing. |
The problem is to reach this quest, I knew there was this quest when I tried the evil path but didn't succeed reach it without to to have fill up high enough the soul meter and get some weird variation as if I was a nice good guy, quite unpleasant.
In all case it's a delicate path choice and good for replay when you already know the game, I doubt it's a good advice to suggest start with this path. I see the evil path sort of funny with its excessive extreme approach, the evil NPC is a funny one. |
I have also restarted the game and am quite frustrated by the AI. My main problem is that the AI switches target, ignoring the old "one dead enemy is better than two injured" commandment. Is there any way to prevent this idiocy?
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Select them all at the same time and tell them to attack a single target. Either that or just turn off the AI (by putting the NPCs in puppet mode).
I generally pause combat, select my casters and give them all a certain list of spells to cast, then select all ranged and physical characters and attack one target after the other. |
Thanks, I tried selecting them all BG-style at first, but they switch targets after a while. It isnt that much of a problem now that I am further into the game as we are vastly more powerful than most opponents (save a dragon that is causing me a few reloads). Fun game but the AI and the camera are quite bad.
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