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Dhruin October 12th, 2009 23:41

Dragon Age - Sacred Ashes Trailer
 
Head over to Gametrailers to watch a new Dragon Age cinematic trailer titled Sacred Ashes (~4 min).
More information.

joxer October 12th, 2009 23:41

My thongue is on the floor.
OMG

wolfgrimdark October 13th, 2009 00:06

It is an awesome trailer and no MM music either, which was nice (at least not that I could tell).

xSamhainx October 13th, 2009 00:55

wow, that was cool. Fantasy Porn if I've ever see it, I was loosening my collar here!

I liked that suicide bomber spell she pulled on that one Darkspawn, pretty funny

Remus October 13th, 2009 01:21

Very nice cinematic and smooth combat animation, although i would have preferred the dragon kicked everyone else arse. Dragon supposed to be one of the strongest enemies in many fantasy / D&D games.

Zloth October 13th, 2009 03:10

OK, now I know I'm getting old. When the mage gal was complaining about the cold while flaunting her cleavage, I just had to yell out "so put on a sweater!"

Incredible trailer, though! Saving that one for sure!

Badesumofu October 13th, 2009 09:09

Loved it! I would be drooling, except I just got Risen today (finally it arrived!!) and I'm totally in love with that :)

baron October 13th, 2009 09:16

as trailers keep getting (just graphically) cooler (crystal clear where the budget went), the actual game appears to be shittier every day, as they disclose any additional brag-thing.

short stories vs. hollypoop trailers, guess who wins in the end. but still, how many will keep chewing hollypoop for f's sake.
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lumiapina October 13th, 2009 09:33

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Originally Posted by baron (Post 1060976640)
as trailers keep getting (just graphically) cooler (crystal clear where the budget went), the actual game appears to be shittier every day, as they disclose any additional brag-thing.

short stories vs. hollypoop trailers, guess who wins in the end. but still, how many will keep chewing hollypoop for f's sake.

Luckily for many of us it keeps looking better and better, the more they show actual game play. I thought Sacred Ashes was pretty cool, kinda like Blizzard's videos.

turian October 13th, 2009 10:14

this trailer says absolutley nothing about the game itself.
its nice to look at, but its not the game.

thers no jumping, no flik flacs and morphing in midair,no button for stabbing orcs in the eyes and no propably no "one hitting" enemys.

DArtagnan October 13th, 2009 10:55

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Originally Posted by turian (Post 1060976651)
this trailer says absolutley nothing about the game itself.
its nice to look at, but its not the game.

thers no jumping, no flik flacs and morphing in midair,no button for stabbing orcs in the eyes and no propably no "one hitting" enemys.

That's true for most of these trailers, though - as in they generally look better and exaggerate features.

Not that I necessarily support that direction, but it's been the case for decades and as you sound like you're targeting DA:O specifically with your critique - it's only fair to point out how it's 100% par for the course.

bemushroomed October 13th, 2009 11:19

cant help but thinking of how much in-game content, bug fixes and graphical improvements they could have done instead of this video which probably took them months.. haha im such a pessimist :P

skavenhorde October 13th, 2009 11:45

Very cool.

These trailers are killing me. I just can't wait for this to be released.

DPB October 13th, 2009 12:30

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Originally Posted by bemushroomed (Post 1060976659)
cant help but thinking of how much in-game content, bug fixes and graphical improvements they could have done instead of this video which probably took them months.. haha im such a pessimist :P

Bioware didn't make this trailer, Blur Studio did.

http://www.blur.com/

Daroou October 13th, 2009 12:53

True.. However the costs associated with producing it could have gone into game development. Marketing is important though.

leth October 13th, 2009 13:29

According to Desslock, the actual fight in game is just as epic:

In other news, the fight with the dragon that the most recent trailer depicted actually looks almost as epic in game:

Desslock posted this:
Quote:

….I don't think you have to worry about dragons not being strong enough in the actual game. They make BG2's dragons looking like overgrown iguanas -- this is an actual combat scene
Dragon Fight In game

Quote:

Any mage can acquire any spells, so you can transition them to any role you want. But there's so much variety that you'll want to try out different branches -- I mixed my party up a lot because I like a variety of challenges and wanted to see as many interactions as possible, but when I wanted to get shit done and deal with big battles, I generally had 2 mages (both of whom could provide healing but different offensive capabilities), a warrior and my main character Rogue.

I love magic in this game - like Dragon Age in general, it's essentially "freestyle D&D" --- without legacy baggage and billions of redundant spells that basically do the same thing. And you can't just spam your most powerful area of effect spells because they have cool-down periods that are very well-balanced to reflect their potency.

I much prefer BioWare's character development/magic systems to 4th Edition D&D, for instance, even though I think they had a lot of common goals for how to evolve a fantasy RPG beyond the limitations of older editions of D&D and similar games.
Hmmm a rogue main char. I wonder if there will be a rogue NPC that you can pick up in game as well.

DArtagnan October 13th, 2009 13:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daroou (Post 1060976674)
True.. However the costs associated with producing it could have gone into game development. Marketing is important though.

Can we at least agree that if they should have changed anything, then maybe it should be the "this is the new shit" marketing, and not a trailer like this one?

I mean, as "mature" as the modern audience is - I simply can't accept that the crap we've witnessed in the "shit" marketing campaign is going to have a more beneficial effect than a less ridiculous and more considered campaign.

But what do I know.

bemushroomed October 13th, 2009 15:04

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Originally Posted by DPB (Post 1060976669)
Bioware didn't make this trailer, Blur Studio did.

http://www.blur.com/

So? They hardly did it for free + it's not like they couldnt have been assigned to other tasks, or other people could have been, for that money..

Marketing is important i guess, but still.. i think marketing can be done with just showing of the gameplay, if the game is good enough.. personally i never buy games based on seeing cool/expensive looking CGI trailers, it doesnt help me getting hyped either.

Lemonhead October 13th, 2009 15:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daroou (Post 1060976674)
True.. However the costs associated with producing it could have gone into game development. Marketing is important though.

It's probably not Bioware's budget. It's EA's marketing budget I would assume. And I don't think that you can take money from the marketing budget and throw it into the development budget any which way. Producing these trailers is probably a good way to reach more mainstream audiences that don't spend lots of time in RPG-forums.

On the trailer itself I thought the dragon went down very easily. Eventhough it's fantasy and I know it's not realistic but it feels like a dragon should be harder to kill. I would have liked to see it eat and barbeque a few of the main characters.

wesleyclark October 13th, 2009 15:19

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Originally Posted by leth (Post 1060976680)
Hmmm a rogue main char. I wonder if there will be a rogue NPC that you can pick up in game as well.

Two, that are known so far.

A human female bard variant, and an elf male assassin.

kalniel October 13th, 2009 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by bemushroomed (Post 1060976711)
So? They hardly did it for free + it's not like they couldnt have been assigned to other tasks, or other people could have been, for that money..

Marketing is important i guess, but still.. i think marketing can be done with just showing of the gameplay, if the game is good enough.. personally i never buy games based on seeing cool/expensive looking CGI trailers, it doesnt help me getting hyped either.

Think how cool the text game could be if they didn't spend any money/talent on graphics!

Foss October 13th, 2009 18:47

Very nice trailer.

Some of the jumping seemed at bit "unrealistic" though, but overall the trailer looked very pretty. Reminded me in the start of some of Blizzard's trailers/cinematics.

Edit:
The mage in the first few shots reminded me alot of Keira Knightley in Pirates of the Caribbean. The voice in her first sentence and the sarcastic tone, plus her appearance.

Not that it matters, just funny to me :-)

wolfgrimdark October 13th, 2009 23:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalniel (Post 1060976797)
Think how cool the text game could be if they didn't spend any money/talent on graphics!

lol I liked that :-)

I doubt the trailer really took anything out of over all development. I for one was hyped. I was sharing it at the office and even non-gamers were getting interested. But then I love RPG games and I would be very happy if the game did well and brought in more players.

I enjoy some niche games but I have no particular emotional investment in glorifying them as the be all end all of gaming and innovation.

Meh… I may not like everything about the game but I know it looks fun and I am going to enjoy playing it.

DArtagnan October 14th, 2009 11:06

After actually seeing the trailer, I don't think it's a very good one. But then, I tend to really dislike what the modern audience supposedly enjoys.

I'll get sick to my stomach if I see another female character doing matrix moves in slowmotion. It's just so pathetically juvenile and derivative that I lack the words.

But apparently, it's been popular with that style for ages now - and for some reason everyone really loves those spectacular and ridiculous feats taken directly from Hollywood. It's about as far from a sober dark fantasy setting that I can imagine, and it reminds me how cautious I should be expecting anything in terms of story or setting.

But the game itself looks better by the day, and even if I don't expect much in terms of story or characters, I'm starting to believe in the mechanics being more than just fluff for the modern casual audience. It seems there might be some depth to it, and that's really more than I expected originally.

I'll have fun with it, I'm sure.

Dhruin October 14th, 2009 11:29

All, right. Who hacked into DArtagnan's account? Give it back to him.

rbtroj October 14th, 2009 20:59

Cool trailer, but videos like these always make me think, "the game will never be close to this cool."

Warhammer Online's opening cinematic was the same way for me. Or the Age of Conan opener with the rogue at that beginning -- it's like, "hello, player … watch this video of things your character can never do in game."

That's why I prefer in-engine movies -- at least they're honest.

I know they aren't meant to sell the gameplay so much as the story, but still …


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