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June 28th, 2012, 14:01
Originally Posted by fadedc View Post
If Legend of Grimrock is not a RPG for those reasons, then neither is Wizardry, Might and Magic, Bards Tale, many of the Ultima games, Dungeon Master, Eye of the Beholder, or any of the Gold Box Series of D&D games.

Any definition of a RPG that excludes all of the classic RPGS that defined the genre is, in my opnion, an extremely bad definition.
It is answered in the previous posts with the circularity bit.

Either some games were introduced through the back door while not being RPGs, but nevertheless growing into classics. So yes, anyone sticking to the general definition, which is not a bad definition, but was not respected or applied, exclude classics which were not RPGs in the first place.
Unrespected definitions are not bad definitions.

Or these games belong to cRPG debut and therefore started small.

cRPGs is that computer games genre that took the technology evolution ride not to expand role playing but to decrease RPGs.
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