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September 4th, 2013, 00:07
Also I am not defending anyone just calling out an obvious liar (and got his alt instead I guess, or someone who felt like my words were too close to his own truth).

And you can say it's a straw man all you want, and vogel games are just like classic games and that he is a very trustworthy guy, and any other nonsense you want. Won't make it true.

Remember, vogel calls every critic a troll, so what's that say about him by your logic?
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