Steam - User Reviews Revisited
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There's a slippery slope, Steam.
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tekulte
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Thought the same thing. Also wondering if Steam will do the same with off-topic positive reviews.
Carnifex
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Yeah, I'm sticking with consulting with this site or friends before I make my purchases. Doesn't everyone do that, though? I mean maybe not this specific site but ask friends or review products elsewhere? It just occurs to me from the outset that there could be a huge conflict of interest involved were you to evaluate your purchases at a site that's hosting the store.
It's a tricky thing. On one hand, I see why this could be useful. Lately, when reading reviews of certain games on steam, I do see some "review bombing" going on. These are reviews such as complaining about a DRM often, or even just about a particularly nasty bug that the game might be temporarily experiencing. Those reviews are most often not very helpful. Bugs can and are fixed, and DRM is something that is routine on most games.
On the other hand, there are definitely pitfalls about defining what a "review bomb" may consist of, and if steam will decide wrongly if a valid complaint being echoed by many players is a review bomb, which could artificially inflate game scores in general across all of steam.
Luckily I note that you can opt out of this according to steam's press release, and continue to see review scores as normal. Let's hope they don't remove this later down the line.
On the other hand, there are definitely pitfalls about defining what a "review bomb" may consist of, and if steam will decide wrongly if a valid complaint being echoed by many players is a review bomb, which could artificially inflate game scores in general across all of steam.
Luckily I note that you can opt out of this according to steam's press release, and continue to see review scores as normal. Let's hope they don't remove this later down the line.
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Nereida
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Am I understanding it wrong or Is this a way of stopping a game from being downvoted for asinine reasons taht don't affect the gameplay such as "it has Denuvo", "The CEO made a snarky comment in his twitter" or "it was made by EA"?
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That's the idea, but I think the concern is about who gets to decide what's asinine.
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Count me as another who thinks this a grey slippery slope also. I get why they are doing this as some games are review bombed over various reasons like the Metro games.
At least you can still read them as the text above confirms.
At least you can still read them as the text above confirms.
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Steam should just have a Community Concerns section for outstanding issues/feedback from the community. It won't effect review scores and could be prominently displayed so that it can't be ignored by the developer. But the option to ignore it should be given to Steam gamers.
What to say? Ok then.
Not that I don't see the manipulation, most users will never bother change the default review setup, so even optional it will be effective for 99.99% of users.
Ok but the choice is here to ignore or not the review censorship effect on reviews rate.
For me it's a much bigger concern that keys not bought on steam aren't count, but clearly it will not change, nor it will ever make me buy a game on Steam because of that.
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regulation against poor review is great. especially in IT where u can get an AI to post a shit ton of them.
i think its a step forward. the only risk i see is saving some titles that are decent games but the culture has solid reason for rejecting .. see captain marvel. from being shunned as they should.
art is about context as well. and the culture matters. this was a way of protest.. now there will those people who wont join in the conflict when/where it starts. causing damage inadvertent to the cause
i think its a step forward. the only risk i see is saving some titles that are decent games but the culture has solid reason for rejecting .. see captain marvel. from being shunned as they should.
art is about context as well. and the culture matters. this was a way of protest.. now there will those people who wont join in the conflict when/where it starts. causing damage inadvertent to the cause
SleepingDog
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I find that the overall score can be misleading so I adopt a search pattern which involves looking at the reviews with poor scores as well as those with high scores.
Recently I bought Victor Vran on GOG. Overall it rates at 3.9 out of 5 so a decent enough score. Digging a bit deeper it seems that a lot of low scores are about some DRM thing when you go online. I never play online. So I don't care. Bought the game and despite the inability to save when I want to it is an enjoyable game.
With regards to Steam misusing this new facility. Bots are used to find them, people are used to decide what stays what does not. Yes - it could be open to abuse but so much in life is.
I think, as with anything involving money, buyer beware.
Recently I bought Victor Vran on GOG. Overall it rates at 3.9 out of 5 so a decent enough score. Digging a bit deeper it seems that a lot of low scores are about some DRM thing when you go online. I never play online. So I don't care. Bought the game and despite the inability to save when I want to it is an enjoyable game.
With regards to Steam misusing this new facility. Bots are used to find them, people are used to decide what stays what does not. Yes - it could be open to abuse but so much in life is.
I think, as with anything involving money, buyer beware.
yea a lot of games run into this problem in that the online services use the services of the publisher/developer. People have to accept that as the nature of online play. I suppose the exception might be those games that allow lan online.
