The 26 Best RPGs @ GamePro

I doubt any casual gamer would ever include Planescape: Torment in a list. Or bother with lists, anyway. Unless he read something about it on the internet and wanted to make it sound all hardcore like and stuffs.

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Mainstreaming gaming sites have plenty of lists. My guess is that torment was propably added to the list by a pure chance.

Thaurin said:

I disagree with your assessment of who belongs here, though. I'm interested in both areas of gaming.

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The fact that somone is hc rpg fan doesnt mean that he cant enjoy rpgs meant for casual crowds too. As for casuals to enjoy hc rpgs - thats rare.

In general I dont think that rpg is a very popular genre in first place anyways. In mmorpgs roleplaying is limited even in the "official" rpg servers. Singleplayer rpgs sell better if they are more than just rpgs - if they include gaming elements that are more to the mainstream's taste.

zakhal said:

The list might be based on what casual players think about RPGs. The people in here dont belong to that group. I doubt any mainstream player would even bother to register into any rpg site.

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I must agree.

I see RPGWatch as kind of an "literature circle" among other gaming sites.

To me, this is something good, because I prefer intelligent, sophisticated discussions.

Alrik Fassbauer said:

I must agree.

I see RPGWatch as kind of an "literature circle" among other gaming sites.

To me, this is something good, because I prefer intelligent, sophisticated discussions.

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Me to
I can understand some casual gamers to think Diablo is a RPG but POKEMON?Even for casual gamers they dont understand what RPGs are.I think they added BG and PS:T just to satisfy us

Zloth said:

Great guns, Suikoden III beating out Oblivion, Planescape: Torment, and any Baulders title??? It had some really original ideas and was worth the price but the ranking was far too high.

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Well, although I disagree with lots of entries in the list, I'm one that has Suikoden 3 in his personal top 5 RPGs. (Gladius, PS:T, BG2 and KoToR being the other 4). Remember I said my 'personal' top 5. Although I agree FO1, 2 and 3 are great games and great RPGs, I just don't like the whole open-world style for some reason.

In 1998, Bioware set the RPG world ablaze with its AD&D based dungeon romp, Baldur's Gate

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given that my number one complaint about BG was that it didn't have a single proper dungeon (not counting what came in the expansion pack), I'd say the writer is all kinds of fail.

I would be insulted, Thaurin, because it came from a so-called serious game site, with actual reviewers. I don't care if some random guy doesn't know up from down, like the comments at imdb/various forums/etc.

Thaurin said:

As expected, there we go again with the irrational name-calling. Such an emotional involvement over something so unimportant.

Incidentally, I quite like bloom, thank you very much.

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Bloom is for barbie fun house only Don't get me wrong... I quite like games that looks good but BG2 was released in 2000, and oblivion was released much after that! That's not a fair comparison! And quite frankly... Im getting sick of games that "just" look good. Nothing else. Just pretty.