Grimoire - Crowdfunding campaign at indiegogo

Originally Posted by Pladio
4. He said that it cost him 250k to make the game, but hasn't detailed what he means by it. If I counted the man-days I put into things at the rate I'm charged by my firm then that's easy to do. If I'm talking about actual money put into the project, that's entirely different.

From what I've understood, he's at least paid for the art and sound.

I hope you enjoyed throwing your money away.

We crpg entusiasts on the 'Watch, the 'Codex, NMA … have to support programmers like Cleve - this is the only way our niche hobby (hardcore crpgs) will survive.
I have supported a lot of indie projects in the past, some were good, some were bad, some games I closed after 5 minutes of playtime, some were never released.
I will continue to support my game genre as long I have enough spare money for this.

No Risk -> No Fun!

Originally Posted by HiddenX
We crpg entusiasts on the 'Watch, the 'Codex, NMA … have to support programmers like Cleve - this is the only way our niche hobby (hardcore crpgs) will survive.
I have supported a lot of indie projects in the past, some were good, some were bad, some games I closed after 5 minutes of playtime, some were never released.
I will continue to support my game genre as long I have enough spare money for this.

No Risk -> No Fun!

I will support him with my purchase if he releases the game. With Kickstarter money I prefer to support projects that actually need funding to be made in the first place.

I support what I deem worthy of support. It's an incredibly simple approach - and I think it would work well if everyone followed it. Of course, people would need to spend some time thinking and analysing something before supporting it - and that's kinda the reason we see a major shit to quality ratio in the entertainment industry.

Originally Posted by DArtagnan
- and that's kinda the reason we see a major shit to quality ratio in the entertainment industry.

Originally Posted by SpoonFULL

95% shit to 5% quality - something like that.

Just to give you guys a heads up Cleve is going berserk on the Shaker Kickstarter page. Guy is always good for some laughs.

Wow! That's pretty ballsy to promote Grimoire on their kick starter and trashing them at the same time.

Originally Posted by Thrasher
Wow! That's pretty ballsy to promote Grimoire on their kick starter and trashing them at the same time.

Yeah, I was hoping it won't happen… But maybe we now discover truth about Stones of Arnhem ;-)

I think he's done. Man that was pretty brutal lol.

Well, I never followed Cleve or any of his comments - but that was enough to convince me I have no interest in supporting anything he does.

Originally Posted by DashiDMV
I think he's done.

I wouldn't count on it…

Originally Posted by Thrasher
Wow! That's pretty ballsy to promote Grimoire on their kick starter and trashing them at the same time.

It's exactly what a madman would do, and Cleve is that madman *Grimoire campaign soundtrack*

It's also really bad style imho, and I wish he wouldn't do it. Even though I agree with most of his criticism (haven't read all of it).

Originally Posted by GhanBuriGhan
I wouldn't count on it…

Yeah you are right he is still going. I think he might stay up until one of them get on just to fight it out with them.

What the fuck!!?? This guy is such a worthless jackass. What kind of a lunatic does something this tactless? Only an utter imbecile would back Grimoire at this point. I would love to see the "Cleve apologists" in this thread try to justify this one…

You know whats funny?

He said the same things many(not everyone deepO) of you have said here, albiet on their kickstarter and pretty harshly. Don't agree with him myself, but look at all the upset forum goers here.

Read this thread if you don't believe me:

http://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/showt…ghlight=school

You know what's really funny? Your irrational need to defend a complete and utter jackass.

There is no doubt that the Shaker kickstarter is a train wreck, but I don't see the people here "backing" it just to post some insulting comments.

On the other hand, it my be helpful he has shown up… It's beginning to be a matter of honor for Loot Drop!

Originally Posted by gozioso
You know what's really funny? Your irrational need to defend a complete and utter jackass.

There is no doubt that the Shaker kickstarter is a train wreck, but I don't see the people here "backing" it just to post some insulting comments.

You miss the part where I said I don't agree with him? I'm laughing at the hypocrisy of people I back shacker btw. I'm no where defending his actions, you are frothing at the mouth a bit though.

Originally Posted by rune_74
You know whats funny?

Rather childishly speaking, your debating situation.
Since you´re pretty vocal supporter of both Shaker and Cleveland M. Blakemore, I have to say I´m quite looking forward to developments you´ll come with in your posts .