|
Your donations keep RPGWatch running!
January 8th, 2014, 17:08
Iliad RPG would suffer from the same problem than Bible RPG: you already know (or should know) the story from the beginning till the end. So, as revjwh pointed out, it could be nothing but a rail ride with no real choices, consequence or surprises.
SasqWatch
January 8th, 2014, 17:36
Originally Posted by revjwhWell, the developers did say that you are not actually playing as Abraham in this game, but as a member of his caravan. I believe that there was a Lord of the Rings RPG like this some time ago, where you played as new characters who were following along behind the fellowship of the ring. I assume this means that you get to follow along with the Biblical story, but don't influence its outcome in that sense. If there is any re-activity in game choices, it will probably be choices that directly effect the player and how people treat him/her; the players personal story-line rather than the overall game story. The Walking Dead game worked like this, and I think that Telltale did a good job with it. Anyway, the game may or may not end up being any good, but it is too early to tell for me. I will definitely keep an eye on the game and see how it develops.
Here's the problem:
An RPG is about role-play. And decisions. And consequences.
What if, as Abraham, I decide to turn on the Jewish people? What if I decide to forsake God? What if I decide to not have faith and choose my son over a deity who would direct me to slay my firstborn to prove my faith?
As for the people calling the game propaganda; I guess it could be seen that way, but does that mean that any pieces of media which espouses a particular world view or moral, is propaganda? Anyway, someone said that the video shows the developers are only concerned with indoctrinating people and not with making a quality game, but they state in the video that the lack of 'quality' Christian themed games, was their main catalyst for taking up this project. They may or may not succeed, but I think it is very likely that they are intending to make an enjoyable computer game. Nobody is being forced to go the kickstarter page, pledge, or play the game, so it isn't really being shoved down anyone's throats.
January 8th, 2014, 18:29
Unless a few massive donours show up I don't see them getting 100K.
However, I am curious and I could be interested if there were more details on C&C in game and how it affects your story as the PC.
However, I am curious and I could be interested if there were more details on C&C in game and how it affects your story as the PC.
January 8th, 2014, 18:45
Originally Posted by FantasmNow that sounds like a great idea for a roleplaing game
Here's my loony idea: Somebody needs to go all in and make an RPG where you play the character of Jesus.
Seriously.
You could have skill trees, powers (miracles), quests, dialog (lots of it), companions that you go out and recruit, and you play Jesus through many of the situations that are documented in the Bible, but you could also take some creative license and create similar scenarios during periods of his life that aren't as well documented.
Obviously, you would need to build in ways to get through the game with very little combat. And yet, you could still make combat part of the game, if that's how you choose to play him. Your challenges would be in getting through situations in ways that are in line with Jesus' faith and philosophy.
You could allow for a variety of endings in how your character ends up, ranging from getting crucified and immortalized, to being just another average joe who approached problems the same way as everybody else, to killing everything in your path and wielding the power of God to be overlord of all the land. 8^) But the twist is that you make it so that the ending that we are all familiar with is very hard to achieve, and only happens if you _really_ play your character like Jesus would. Sort of like taking Ultima IV to its logical conclusion. If you could do that in a way that would draw parallels with our modern life and make some "Christians" realize that the way they are living their day-to-day life now has nothing to do with the actual teachings of Christ, you could have something kind of powerful.
But I'm probably just crazy…
I doubt any publisher would dare to publish such game though. Too many grey areas tend to piss of bible thumpers.
January 8th, 2014, 19:03
It's not a bad idea for a game…just not an rpg. I mean it's not like you'll be allowed to be evil or anything. The story is kinda already written.
And acton/adventure sure, but not really suited for an rpg I don't think.
Of course the game will probably suck goat weenies anyway so who cares?
And acton/adventure sure, but not really suited for an rpg I don't think.
Of course the game will probably suck goat weenies anyway so who cares?
Sentinel
January 8th, 2014, 19:29
Originally Posted by FantasmI like that idea !
But the twist is that you make it so that the ending that we are all familiar with is very hard to achieve, and only happens if you _really_ play your character like Jesus would. Sort of like taking Ultima IV to its logical conclusio

And it would surely evoke a shitstorm by players of some Action-RPGs …

Originally Posted by joxerOkay, then the Odyssey !
A good RPG probably never as it would fit to TBS or RTS better.
--
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." (E.F.Schumacher, Economist, Source)
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." (E.F.Schumacher, Economist, Source)
January 8th, 2014, 20:34
Originally Posted by DezOh, but that's why it would be perfect for a Kickstarter. Which person exposed to Christian indoctrination hasn't dreamed of being Jesus? Play as the Jesus beloved by millions or play Jesus the way you wanted him to actually act. Turn over the tables of the money lenders, or burn out the evil bankers eyes with laser beams of pure righteousness?
Now that sounds like a great idea for a roleplaing gameI doubt any publisher would dare to publish such game though. Too many grey areas tend to piss of bible thumpers.
And how would you handle the romance options with Mary Magdalene? Would you strive toward the ending where Judas is crucified in place of Jesus, allowing Jesus and the pregnant Mary escape to the south of France?
Watcher
January 8th, 2014, 23:35
Well you guys surprised me after going to sleep most of you were civil, but I see we still have the usual low count troll posts. Still thanks for being civil.


Alas I agree I don't see the project getting the funding it needs. The goal is to high for a game like this. Still I love when developers try something different at least.



Alas I agree I don't see the project getting the funding it needs. The goal is to high for a game like this. Still I love when developers try something different at least.
--
“Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.”
“Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.”
January 9th, 2014, 00:35
It is perhaps surprising that nobody has brought up the whole moral panic and the MADD episode. That created a lot of negative feelings in certain RPG communities, so yeah it wouldn't be that big of a shock if this fails.
January 9th, 2014, 02:03
Hmm, less than 1K in the first 2 days… They're going to need a miracle.
Seeker
Original Sin Donor
January 9th, 2014, 02:17
Yeah, you would think that just, friends, co-workers, and people at their church would get them more than 1k.
My guess is its as bad as it looks and as bad they present it that even people close to them want nothing to do with it.
My guess is its as bad as it looks and as bad they present it that even people close to them want nothing to do with it.
Guest
January 9th, 2014, 02:59
Originally Posted by ZlothChristians consider ourselves Abraham's children by adoption. We were "grafted in" to the tree.
Abraham? Christian?? HELOOOO… this is THE founding father of the Jewish faith! Muslims harken back to Abraham as well. But it's a Christian game and only pastors and "ministry leaders" were consulted? What a missed opportunity. Well, at least the characters aren't all white and speaking in King James' English.
According to Paul's letter to the Galatians 3:26,27,29
Originally Posted by PaulAside from that, I think there's a recognition from all three faiths that common connection for our various reasons. Also consider it might not be so simple to recruit people you don't know to your project. The PNP RPG I mentioned, Testament, only used a single Jewish scholar for their major consulting of that game.
For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ..And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
--
Developer of The Wizard's Grave Android game. Discussion Thread:
http://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22520
Developer of The Wizard's Grave Android game. Discussion Thread:
http://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22520
January 9th, 2014, 06:40
They have a new update. Frankly I'm not surprised by most comments from gamers these days just disappointed.
Link-http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/…-abraham/posts

Link-http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/…-abraham/posts
--
“Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.”
“Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.”
|
|
All times are GMT +2. The time now is 08:09.
