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The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - More E3 Interviews
June 13th, 2014, 08:30
Seems the news for The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt never seems to end this week. So for today I have some new video interviews for anyone who needs more information.
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June 13th, 2014, 08:30
When the witcher 2 was coming out I started off a rather heated discussion by complaining that Geralt couldn't jump over small obstacles:
http://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13435
But this time he gets a whole open world to do the monster mash in?! Wow, I haven't been taking any interest in modern games for a while but this one's starting to get my attention, it looks very freaking cool. I'll be interested to see how the devs go with the transition from small-ish scripted areas to large world of chaos.
http://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13435
But this time he gets a whole open world to do the monster mash in?! Wow, I haven't been taking any interest in modern games for a while but this one's starting to get my attention, it looks very freaking cool. I'll be interested to see how the devs go with the transition from small-ish scripted areas to large world of chaos.
June 13th, 2014, 08:38
I've complained about it since TW1
A super agile and acrobatic monster hunter that can't even jump over a 5" obstacle to take a short-cut? It was plain ridiculous, especially sad since TW1 was a really good game otherwise.
I've tried TW2 for a bit but i can't say it kept my interest up for very long, most people seems to think TW1 is the better game (game world is also supposed to be a lot bigger) so i probably will give TW2 a miss.
Anyways, grabbing an espresso, these interviews will be an interesting read
A super agile and acrobatic monster hunter that can't even jump over a 5" obstacle to take a short-cut? It was plain ridiculous, especially sad since TW1 was a really good game otherwise. I've tried TW2 for a bit but i can't say it kept my interest up for very long, most people seems to think TW1 is the better game (game world is also supposed to be a lot bigger) so i probably will give TW2 a miss.
Anyways, grabbing an espresso, these interviews will be an interesting read
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June 13th, 2014, 10:58
I think TW2 is much better than TW1, so I would try to play through it if I were you.
June 13th, 2014, 12:02
hmm yes maybe i should give it a go with that combat overhaul
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June 13th, 2014, 12:53
One thing seriously bothers me here. And it's not complaints on lack of jumping in EA RPGs, oops sorry, EA and EA based engines.
It's the (re)discovered open world design. And not just in RPGs. FC3/4, WD, DA:I, TW3, maybe as it's not confirmend in Sims4, etc. Everyone wants open world in their games for whatever reason.
And in the meantime, devs who made brilliant open world games in the past - are abandoning that design. Seriously, I'm not happy PB dumbed it down in Risen 2 and seems it's also happening in Risen 3.
What is going on?
It's the (re)discovered open world design. And not just in RPGs. FC3/4, WD, DA:I, TW3, maybe as it's not confirmend in Sims4, etc. Everyone wants open world in their games for whatever reason.
And in the meantime, devs who made brilliant open world games in the past - are abandoning that design. Seriously, I'm not happy PB dumbed it down in Risen 2 and seems it's also happening in Risen 3.
What is going on?
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Toka Koka
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June 13th, 2014, 13:28
Originally Posted by joxerMarket research and budget.
What is going on?
Everyone is jumping in the open world bandwagon because the Elder Scrolls games and GTA sold 10+ millions of copies (over 20 millions by now for Skyrim only). So all the "big" boys are nowt making open world games because it sells well.
While the smaller boys, with their smaller budget, have issues keeping up with the demand.
SasqWatch
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June 13th, 2014, 13:47
It's a good direction, one i've always promoted. I think both developers are players have realised that this is what the gaming medium is really good for and that it's something that is completely unique for the medium, something books and movies can not give you. It's about finding the medium's strength and building upon that. A good book gives you a good story, a good movie gives you beliavable characters. etc.
I'm only disappointed that AI is falling behind so much
another thing that's totally unique for the gaming medium, and it needs to get far better. I want AI that completetly blows me away, i doubt i'll see it in my life time though.
I'm only disappointed that AI is falling behind so much
another thing that's totally unique for the gaming medium, and it needs to get far better. I want AI that completetly blows me away, i doubt i'll see it in my life time though.
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June 13th, 2014, 13:56
But vurt isn't this medium's real strength releasing a set of modtools with a game?
It's something you can't have with books/movies. Or more precisely, something you can't have on consoles/phones.
It's something you can't have with books/movies. Or more precisely, something you can't have on consoles/phones.
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Toka Koka
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June 13th, 2014, 14:43
yes, user creations is a big strength too
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June 13th, 2014, 17:15
Who exactly was the evil party in this thread vurt? You or me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEgc47U8y2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEgc47U8y2Q
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Toka Koka
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June 13th, 2014, 17:32
Beats me. I think we're all very nice and gentle.
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June 13th, 2014, 18:52
RPS: Geralt can climb stuff now – Cliffs and hillsides getting in your way? No problem. Like a sprightly assassin or Notch’s envisioning of a horse, Geralt’s got enough spring in his step to vault up/over whatever pitiful rock formation might stand in his way. He doesn’t animate quite as well as, say, the main character of Assassin’s Creed Unity, but it’s a useful skill nonetheless.
Sentinel
June 13th, 2014, 20:20
RPS: "Cities feel amazingly alive – You thought Skyrim’s “Radiant” AI was impressive? Or if not impressive then at least a cut above the mindless mobs that tend to populate videogame worlds? Well, Witcher 3′s variation on the theme looked magnificently natural. Children shouted and played tag, adults walked and chatted, fires crackled, water wheels churned, etc, etc, etc. It was so palpably alive. Our presenter noted that NPCs react the all sorts of things, too: the time of day, weather, Geralt punching them - every valid and rational human concern. Afterward, I went to a demo of Dragon Age Inquisition, and the difference was night and day. DA’s denizens were stuck in their tracks like they were born and raised in a vat of quicksand. No sudden movements. Really just no… movements in general, actually."
Every open world RPG will be TW3's bitch
Every open world RPG will be TW3's bitch
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June 13th, 2014, 21:58
You can't trust a thing you see in a demo, I think Bethesda showing off Oblivion AI made that abundantly clear.
I don't think the state of the art ever advanced significantly from the original Gothic game back in 2001. It did everything you see in Skyrim, people had a job, looked like they were doing it, and went to bed at night. They responded to threats and went about scripted sequences.
If you are waiting for real lifelike AI in a video game, and not a decent illusion, you won't see it in this lifetime. They can keep scripting more and more actions and responses, but at some point it will hit an uncanny valley effect and just be so short of the real thing it wasn't worth doing.
We just hit the point where an AI can get away as being a 13 year old second language english speaker to a relatively naive interrogator 30% of the time. That isn't Turing's vision there.
I don't think the state of the art ever advanced significantly from the original Gothic game back in 2001. It did everything you see in Skyrim, people had a job, looked like they were doing it, and went to bed at night. They responded to threats and went about scripted sequences.
If you are waiting for real lifelike AI in a video game, and not a decent illusion, you won't see it in this lifetime. They can keep scripting more and more actions and responses, but at some point it will hit an uncanny valley effect and just be so short of the real thing it wasn't worth doing.
We just hit the point where an AI can get away as being a 13 year old second language english speaker to a relatively naive interrogator 30% of the time. That isn't Turing's vision there.
Sentinel
June 13th, 2014, 22:22
Originally Posted by vurtThis guy obviously haven't played Witcher 1 since all those things (except punching maybe) were present in that game. And yes, world of Witcher 1 was more alive than Skyrim (and Gothic I) as well!
RPS: "Cities feel amazingly alive – You thought Skyrim’s “Radiant” AI was impressive? Or if not impressive then at least a cut above the mindless mobs that tend to populate videogame worlds? Well, Witcher 3′s variation on the theme looked magnificently natural. Children shouted and played tag, adults walked and chatted, fires crackled, water wheels churned, etc, etc, etc. It was so palpably alive. Our presenter noted that NPCs react the all sorts of things, too: the time of day, weather, Geralt punching them - every valid and rational human concern.
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June 13th, 2014, 22:52
I think you're right, at least i do recall the children and that NPC's would take shelter when it rained
in the enhanced edition there was also much better variation of NPC's.
in the enhanced edition there was also much better variation of NPC's.
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June 13th, 2014, 22:56
Just because you can't trust Bethesda ( and they can't make a game), doesn't mean the you shouldn't trust CD Project, they've always delivered on their promises as far as I am concerned!
June 13th, 2014, 23:25
Originally Posted by BurressTrue, and open world and Sim games tried to improve on the AI. But I think that one should remember that Gothic, Witcher .. etc. are role playing games with a story to tell with start and and end, especially the Witcher.
You can't trust a thing you see in a demo, I think Bethesda showing off Oblivion AI made that abundantly clear.
I don't think the state of the art ever advanced significantly from the original Gothic game back in 2001. It did everything you see in Skyrim, people had a job, looked like they were doing it, and went to bed at night. They responded to threats and went about scripted sequences.
If you are waiting for real lifelike AI in a video game, and not a decent illusion, you won't see it in this lifetime. They can keep scripting more and more actions and responses, but at some point it will hit an uncanny valley effect and just be so short of the real thing it wasn't worth doing.
We just hit the point where an AI can get away as being a 13 year old second language english speaker to a relatively naive interrogator 30% of the time. That isn't Turing's vision there.
Therefore the priority and focus is on the story and providing an enjoyable ride through this story; the NPC AI and behaviour is just for atmosphere and to produce a belivable setting - hence scripting. Anything beyond scripting would be a waste of computing and resource power for a good rpg.
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