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July 13th, 2014, 12:21
Originally Posted by joxerI'm doing much better progress by now.
Where exactly, need a hint?

There are still a few questions, though :
- Making flour - now I know it how, because I've found the right book, but there is a working mill north of Cyseal, and doinmg drag & drop of grain with it just doesn't work …
- North of Cyseal there are 2 dogs - where the bee hives are. How can I feed them ? Drag & drop with bones and/or meat doesn't work …
- Using the smith's oven in Cyseal doesn't quite work there as well - I constantly get the message that the character who is able to do smithing asks "with what could I start it burning" or so … quoted from my memory, and it is in German language as well. It seems to me that I need something that already burns (like candles) or wood to get it burning, but in a thread in the Larian forums someone told me that I'd just need to drop ore there ?
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." (E.F.Schumacher, Economist, Source)
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." (E.F.Schumacher, Economist, Source)
July 13th, 2014, 13:40
Originally Posted by Alrik FassbauerSorry, I'm not into exploring crafting completely so can't answer on these. Yet. I'll do it when I'm about to finish the game.
- Making flour - now I know it how, because I've found the right book, but there is a working mill north of Cyseal, and doinmg drag & drop of grain with it just doesn't work
- Using the smith's oven in Cyseal doesn't quite work there as well - I constantly get the message that the character who is able to do smithing asks "with what could I start it burning" or so quoted from my memory, and it is in German language as well. It seems to me that I need something that already burns (like candles) or wood to get it burning, but in a thread in the Larian forums someone told me that I'd just need to drop ore there ?

But the game has a stellar crafting system, but IMO it's OP and should be used only if played on hard difficulty.
Originally Posted by Alrik FassbauerYou can't do nothing to help those two, they're as good as dead.
- North of Cyseal there are 2 dogs - where the bee hives are. How can I feed them ? Drag & drop with bones and/or meat doesn't work
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July 13th, 2014, 15:12
Originally Posted by HiddenXActually a hint that is not a spoiler but something you just have to do in this game.
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Pump up Perception on at least one character!!!
Yes there is a spell eagle eye or something to help you on spots you know there is a hidden stash (trasure maps or whatnot chitchat), but not all of them are learnable that way.
But a new hint.
There is a certain village where you can go agressive and kill everyone. You should spare the geomancer!
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July 13th, 2014, 20:27
I've looked twice and one of my characters has a 3 perception. There's actually a clue in my journal that says Zixzax will have something to say about it… he doesn't.
Ah ha! It showed up on a reload! Thanks HiddenX!
Interesting, the last journal entry implies that there's a violent way to solve this quest. I tried that. Even though I had four level 10s fighting level 9s, it was looking pretty impossible.
P.S. Regarding flour: move the mortal & pestle on top of wheat to make flour.
P.P.S. It looks like flour is pretty heavy so you might want to leave it as wheat until you're ready. You definitely want to do that with bones. Bones are weightless but bone dust isn't!
Ah ha! It showed up on a reload! Thanks HiddenX!
Interesting, the last journal entry implies that there's a violent way to solve this quest. I tried that. Even though I had four level 10s fighting level 9s, it was looking pretty impossible.
P.S. Regarding flour: move the mortal & pestle on top of wheat to make flour.
P.P.S. It looks like flour is pretty heavy so you might want to leave it as wheat until you're ready. You definitely want to do that with bones. Bones are weightless but bone dust isn't!
July 13th, 2014, 22:56
I was rather thinking of feeding bones to dogs … But there don't seem to be dogs who can or want to eat them …
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." (E.F.Schumacher, Economist, Source)
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." (E.F.Schumacher, Economist, Source)
July 14th, 2014, 00:01
A few more things.
Void armor means that creature is invulnerable - until you destroy a huge blood stone with any tenebrium (vulgaris) weapon. Okay? So…
You will see these type of creatures when your base gets attacked by "meteors" so you get a job of stopping it (second big map, northwest part).
There is a no hints doublepuzzle in Immaculates church. I've retried it too many times to get it set, so in case you don't want to try all 24 possible combinations till you get the proper one here's a spoiler.
Oddly, rats in the game always give you some hints, here, rats say nothing useful nor is some note, book or something nearby.
Void armor means that creature is invulnerable - until you destroy a huge blood stone with any tenebrium (vulgaris) weapon. Okay? So…
Spoiler
You will see these type of creatures when your base gets attacked by "meteors" so you get a job of stopping it (second big map, northwest part).
There is a no hints doublepuzzle in Immaculates church. I've retried it too many times to get it set, so in case you don't want to try all 24 possible combinations till you get the proper one here's a spoiler.
Oddly, rats in the game always give you some hints, here, rats say nothing useful nor is some note, book or something nearby.
Spoiler
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July 15th, 2014, 17:41
Couple of questions if anyone can answer.
1. For the Rock, Paper, Scissors does the skill you use have any bearing on it? It shows your skill level vs the NPC you might be arguing with but it doesn't seem to affect the actual game.
2. I have the gog version and am off on holidays tomorrow. I really want to keep playing this while I'm away so I'll need to install it again on the laptop. I know with gog thats not a problem but I'm assuming my kickstarter code only works once so I'm just wondering if my saves from a kickstarter version will work with a non-kickstarter version (since it has some extra items etc.). Probably a suck it and see situation.
1. For the Rock, Paper, Scissors does the skill you use have any bearing on it? It shows your skill level vs the NPC you might be arguing with but it doesn't seem to affect the actual game.
2. I have the gog version and am off on holidays tomorrow. I really want to keep playing this while I'm away so I'll need to install it again on the laptop. I know with gog thats not a problem but I'm assuming my kickstarter code only works once so I'm just wondering if my saves from a kickstarter version will work with a non-kickstarter version (since it has some extra items etc.). Probably a suck it and see situation.
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July 15th, 2014, 18:08
I'm a bit stuck. Spoilers:
I've explored outside of town a bit and am enjoying this a lot. Just have issue with the above.
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I've explored outside of town a bit and am enjoying this a lot. Just have issue with the above.
July 15th, 2014, 18:16
Originally Posted by BrianOConnellI dunno. You'd have to put in the code once you make a new profile … Then it is "bound" with that profile, that's how I see it (but I'm not to 100 % sure about it).
2. I have the gog version and am off on holidays tomorrow. I really want to keep playing this while I'm away so I'll need to install it again on the laptop. I know with gog thats not a problem but I'm assuming my kickstarter code only works once so I'm just wondering if my saves from a kickstarter version will work with a non-kickstarter version (since it has some extra items etc.). Probably a suck it and see situation.
So … if you put the code into a new profile, then your savegames might still work ?
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." (E.F.Schumacher, Economist, Source)
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." (E.F.Schumacher, Economist, Source)
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July 15th, 2014, 19:15
Originally Posted by joxerActually, in the case of the second puzzle thereīs
Oddly, rats in the game always give you some hints, here, rats say nothing useful nor is some note, book or something nearby.
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When it comes to the first puzzle I donīt think a specific order is required (and it can be bypassed entirely).
Speaking of rats (and other animals), as a not-that spoiler-y tip Iīd mention that they only
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July 15th, 2014, 19:31
Originally Posted by BrianOConnellIf your charisma skill is higher than NPCīs then you usually need less wins to win an argument. For example, if itīs 5:3 than you need only 2 wins to reach required 10 points, whereas an opponent needs 4.
1. For the Rock, Paper, Scissors does the skill you use have any bearing on it? It shows your skill level vs the NPC you might be arguing with but it doesn't seem to affect the actual game.
I think that bypassing the minigame by hitting space should take the skill values into account as well, however Iīm not sure if thatīs how it actually works in the game since my anecdotal experience certainly made it seem like it doesnīt
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July 18th, 2014, 03:14
I'm starting to wonder about that r/p/s minigame. Quite a few of the characters seem to expect me to pick the same thing I picked on my previous choice. So, if I pick paper on the first round, I'll pick rock on the second. If I win with rock, I'll just start cycling leftward (scissors, paper, rock, scissors…) and I'll win the match pretty often.
I haven't had all that many RPS games and I haven't been writing down when that has and hasn't worked so this could just be in my head. (I found it because I tried picking the same option every time once and got shut out by a pretty weak NPC.)
I haven't had all that many RPS games and I haven't been writing down when that has and hasn't worked so this could just be in my head. (I found it because I tried picking the same option every time once and got shut out by a pretty weak NPC.)
July 18th, 2014, 03:52
There are 3 different strategies for the npcs in RPS. Once you've figured which of the 3 you have, you'll win every time…unless they changed it.
Alrik, you use a mortar and pestle to turn wheat into flour and then flour and water to make dough. Food gives you temporary stat gains and resistances.
I didn't read all the questions probably, but I remembered those two.
Alrik, you use a mortar and pestle to turn wheat into flour and then flour and water to make dough. Food gives you temporary stat gains and resistances.
I didn't read all the questions probably, but I remembered those two.
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July 18th, 2014, 17:09
Thank you.
I already have the necessary recipes, b ut wondered whether I could try that mill as well …
I'm going to break bad … errm … bake bread tonight !
I already have the necessary recipes, b ut wondered whether I could try that mill as well …
I'm going to break bad … errm … bake bread tonight !
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." (E.F.Schumacher, Economist, Source)
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." (E.F.Schumacher, Economist, Source)
July 19th, 2014, 18:27
Third map, phantom forest. Stuck somewhere?
You have the solution. In your inventory.
You have the solution. In your inventory.
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July 20th, 2014, 12:48
You can only get stuck there if you're not pixelhunting every wall. No highlighted switches apart from one that glows because you, hopefully, have superhigh perception. 
I've finally finished the game, going out for some coffee, will write later.

I've finally finished the game, going out for some coffee, will write later.
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