Beamdog - Working on New Baldur's Gate Game

Originally Posted by Couchpotato
It's quite obvious the new game is made with the enhanced infinity engine as it's not hard to create more content for new games.

I really wish they'd release some type of studio for Enhanced Infinity. The modding community has been amazing, but its always been hamstrung by the difficulty in creating new areas from scratch.

I have no idea what your Gif means blatantninja.

It looks a man waiting in anticipation for a call. I'm more like this right now.



The feeling of finally having more infinity engine games.

Originally Posted by blatantninja
I really wish they'd release some type of studio for Enhanced Infinity. The modding community has been amazing, but its always been hamstrung by the difficulty in creating new areas from scratch.

I agree as some of the mods were outstanding back in the day. I remember playing two huge overhauls that added over 100 hundred hours of content.

Ah here is one of them but it doesn't work on the new editions though.

Shadows Over Soubar - http://www.shsforums.net/forum/195-shadows-over-soubar/

Originally Posted by purpleblob
Hmm can't say I'm terribly happy about the news. I'm very sensitive on BG series topic. I really hope Beamdog do their job well on adventure Y for the sake of my beloved BG series but I remain skeptical. Still against BG3, I stand by my previous statement. Leave Bhaalspawn alone, his/her story ended with ToB so just make new game in same setting but call it something other than BG

I don't have an issue with the BG name because Baldur's Gate is really not specific to the Bhaalspawn. Its a location, just like Neverwinter is, and easily generates marketing buzz. I do agree that I have no desire to seem them extend the Bhaalspawn story past ToB though, but a new story that includes a Baldur's Gate city 20-30 years down the road and some new surrounding areas? Would love that.

Originally Posted by Couchpotato
I have no idea what your Gif means blatantninja.

Its my go to giddy with excitement GIF!

I have followed the link for images they gave and read the discussion there, and it seems this Adventure Y might have some new UI elements.

As for Adventure Z, they said it will be using a 3d engine and it will not be D&D game.

This would be a must buy for me, I would really enjoy a new infinity engine game. I agree that it should be a new story and new setting within the Baldur's Gate world.

Yeah after reading thirty pages of posts Adventure Z will be using a new 3D engine, and might not be isometric. So my enthusiasm has dimmed a little bit.

We still have Adventure Y at least it will be made with the infinity engine. At the end of the day I still look forward to what they make, and cant wait for more details.

@blatantninja: Even if Beamdog end up making BG3, it won't be on Infinity Engine nor using 2nd AD&D. I don't see why they can't call it something else other than milking out BG series name. If they are going to use new protagonist (not Bhaalspawn), new engine and new ruleset, might as well call it something else.

Anyway, as for Adventure Y, I reckon you will be traveling with Beamdog's new NPCs since they don't have access to voice actors/actresses with Bioware NPC new dialogues.

Originally Posted by purpleblob
@blatantninja: Even if Beamdog end up making BG3, it won't be on Infinity Engine nor using 2nd AD&D.

And how would you know that? That is your opinion I take it. There is an IE game currently in production, who knows what could happen?

And BG wasn't a strict 2nd edition game so I can't see any major problem even if it was true.

Originally Posted by purpleblob
@blatantninja: Even if Beamdog end up making BG3, it won't be on Infinity Engine nor using 2nd AD&D. I don't see why they can't call it something else other than milking out BG series name. If they are going to use new protagonist (not Bhaalspawn), new engine and new ruleset, might as well call it something else.

Because name recognition still matters when it comes to selling games.

Remember Icewind Dale 2? The only thing it had in common with its predecessor was the setting. All they need to do for Baldur's Gate 3 is to tie it in to the prior history and lore.

If they did away with the name, then I suspect they may also lose the rights to use the setting. That adds costs to the development right there, and they probably lose part of their audience.

Originally Posted by bjon045
And how would you know that? That is your opinion I take it. There is an IE game currently in production, who knows what could happen?

And BG wasn't a strict 2nd edition game so I can't see any major problem even if it was true.

Good for you. You have right to be excited and I have right to be skeptical.

Originally Posted by purpleblob
Good for you. You have right to be excited and I have right to be skeptical.

You misunderstand me, I am extremely skeptical, in fact I think Beamdog are basically a group of modders who have a vast amount of work in front of them if they think they can even create a game half as good as Baldurs Gate. I was merely referring to the fact that your statements were not based on fact. Beamdog is using the infinity engine currently and we don't whether it will be used going forward or not despite them stating it will not be used on "Adventure Z" whatever that may be.

Right, sorry about that. True, it's my assumption that they won't be using IE engine if they ever work in BG3. Although I think I read somewhere that they will have to use 5e and different engine if they ever work on BG3, not sure where though.

Originally Posted by purpleblob
@blatantninja: Even if Beamdog end up making BG3, it won't be on Infinity Engine nor using 2nd AD&D. I don't see why they can't call it something else other than milking out BG series name. If they are going to use new protagonist (not Bhaalspawn), new engine and new ruleset, might as well call it something else.

I think that's exactly the point. For the same reason they Interplay used the BG name in the Dark Alliance console games. Its marketing. It is a shame that they won't be using 2nd AD&D or the updated IE though.

Did you feel the same way about Neverwinter Nights 2?

I'm probably more excited about this game than I am about the new Torment or Pillars of Eternity games. I'm sure all 3 will be awesome, but something about a BG3 (or BG1.5, as it were) really, really interests me.

But actually, I still have to finish BG2! So many games, not enough time.

Originally Posted by blatantninja
I think that's exactly the point. For the same reason they Interplay used the BG name in the Dark Alliance console games. Its marketing. It is a shame that they won't be using 2nd AD&D or the updated IE though.

Did you feel the same way about Neverwinter Nights 2?

Call me biased, but no, NWN was very different case to BG. Both BGs used same protagonist and continued story through entire game series. It doesn't make sense to me that Beamdog will suddenly change protagonist in BG3, completely new engine, rule set etc. NWN1 OC and two expansions had different protagonist (I know both expansions used same protagonist), so it was easier to accept new story, new protagonist etc in NWN2.

Well, to be fair, the original BG3 would have had a new protagonist too! They should have just called BG2 "Shadows of Amn" and left the BG2 part off!

Originally Posted by purpleblob
Both BGs used same protagonist and continued story through entire game series. It doesn't make sense to me that Beamdog will suddenly change protagonist in BG3…

But there isn't really any other possibility. BG and BG2/ToB cover your way from childhood to godhood. The planned new Infinity game is supposed to add the missing link from the duke's palace in Baldur's Gate to the prison in Athkatla. Then there's nothing left, except toddler stories or your machinations as god (an RTS?).

So, BG3 was always a pipe dream for me. The link to the first games would most probably be very tenuous in most imaginable cases.

I know, I'm basically saying, I'm against BG3 yes, I understand it's marketing purpose, but I personally don't like it. That's all may sound silly, but I just don't want series "ruined" by crap/mediocre BG 1.5 or 3 whatever like what a lot of people said with Halo 4 and others onwards (Master Chief story ended with 3 etc argument)

Originally Posted by purpleblob
… may sound silly, but I just don't want series "ruined" by crap/mediocre BG 1.5 or 3 whatever …

That doesn't sound silly at all. Some people already complained about the additions in BG:EE, which felt different to them.

In principle, I always considered NWN as something like BG3. It's still the same general area of Faerun, so it kind of fits the bill, even if the OC feels somewhat lackluster.